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Old 30-Apr-2012, 21:35 PM
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We have been asked to control five lower passions and inter alia Kaam/sex happens to be the first one. Sex does have an effect on body. It is wondered if the sex has any effect on the soul. i.e if the soul is hit adversely by this physical activity of the body.
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What is the inter-relationship of body[budhi]mind and soul in this process.

Gurbani quotes , if any, would be welcome. Kindly express your view points and illumine.
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Old 30-Apr-2012, 21:52 PM
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Re: Sex and soul

Taranjeet Singh ji,
Your question is very interesting.We may not find any quote in Gurbanee that can establish any relation ship between sex and Soul.
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However the understanding is that SOUL does not have any SEX .
The sex of the body is determined by other complex mechanisms resulting in the shaping of the body within mothers Womb. To understand the deveopment of SEX one can read some related books in Medical Science.I hope you may get some
relevent information related to this aspect and the same you may share here
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Old 30-Apr-2012, 22:04 PM
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Re: Sex and soul

TARANJEET SINGH Ji,
Metaphorically every Soul is considered as FEMALE and THE CREATOR as ONE MALE.
For this you may look the quote from Gurbanee as

ਮਃ ੩ ॥ ਇਸੁ ਜਗ ਮਹਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਏਕੁ ਹੈ ਹੋਰ ਸਗਲੀ ਨਾਰਿ ਸਬਾਈ ॥ ਸਭਿ ਘਟ ਭੋਗਵੈ ਅਲਿਪਤੁ ਰਹੈ ਅਲਖੁ ਨ ਲਖਣਾ ਜਾਈ ॥ {ਪੰਨਾ 592
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Re: Sex and soul

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TARANJEET SINGH Ji,
Metaphorically every Soul is considered as FEMALE and THE CREATOR as ONE MALE.
For this you may look the quote from Gurbanee as

ਮਃ ੩ ॥ ਇਸੁ ਜਗ ਮਹਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਏਕੁ ਹੈ ਹੋਰ ਸਗਲੀ ਨਾਰਿ ਸਬਾਈ ॥ ਸਭਿ ਘਟ ਭੋਗਵੈ ਅਲਿਪਤੁ ਰਹੈ ਅਲਖੁ ਨ ਲਖਣਾ ਜਾਈ ॥ {ਪੰਨਾ 592

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"...In ancient times, the wise referred to the soul as feminine. Even her nature is female. She even has a womb...."

- The Exegesis on the Soul, early Christian text (from second or third century)


Its metaphorical of course, since there is no gender spiritually speaking. In mysticism the Soul is always personified as a woman longing for union with her Beloved - God, the Husband of the Soul.
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Re: Sex and soul

Taranjeet Singh ji thanks for your question.

Let us for a moment assume sex to involve various levels of mating and associated antics.

With the above definition of sex, I personally believe "mating of the souls happens" much more than "physical mating" of bodies. Question is how do souls mate? You guessed it, through "Soulual" or soulular interactions. Some when souls just flirt, sometimes they get near to each other, sometimes they touch and sometimes they just become one.

If in more understood fashion and often quoted soul is a "Jyot" that becomes part of the creator super Jyot, it is equally plausible if not certain that there is merging of souls to various levels in creation. Can it be analogous to sex, I suppose it can be perhaps not as literally.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38434

What are common expressions,
  • He/She set my soul on fire
  • I am a soul man
  • Two souls and one body (common recitation in Anand Karaj/Sikh Wedding Ceremony)

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I believe in the end just as there is nobody without soul and all associated aspects in small and large measure are also connected even so subtly or otherwise.

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We have been asked to control five lower passions and inter alia Kaam/sex happens to be the first one. Sex does have an effect on body. It is wondered if the sex has any effect on the soul. i.e if the soul is hit adversely by this physical activity of the body.
What is the inter-relationship of body[budhi]mind and soul in this process.

Gurbani quotes , if any, would be welcome. Kindly express your view points and illumine.
Kaam is not sex, Kaam is lust. I cannot see anything wrong with loving sex in a loving relationship such can only be good for the soul.

However sex with say someone you have only just met, animal lust if you will, is a completely different manner, such in excess destroys the soul, instead of nourishing and filling the soul with love, it blackens it, to the point where you can't feel anything, it blinds you, it distorts your thinking, it enslaves you, there is nothing loving about it, in fact some believe that each time you have sex with a different person, you lose some of your soul

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Re: Sex and soul

I don't think the soul can be affected by having sex or any other physical activity. Next thing I would say is that we lose touch with our soul. But it is very hard to define the self, the mind and the soul. Mind would ask for more and more sex, soul would ask for enlightenment. Something of a Manmat vs Gurmat.
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We have been asked to control five lower passions and inter alia Kaam/sex happens to be the first one. Sex does have an effect on body. It is wondered if the sex has any effect on the soul. i.e if the soul is hit adversely by this physical activity of the body.
What is the inter-relationship of body[budhi]mind and soul in this process.

Gurbani quotes , if any, would be welcome. Kindly express your view points and illumine.
Why are we worrying sbout what sex does to soul??
If there is no love, then sex doesn't do the soul any favours. Without love, it's purely a physical matter to satisfy body and mind. Just as getting high or stoned is. There is NO beneficial relationship at all.

I don't understand why you even question this. The soul, the soul within is affected by love and love only. The love for god is what gives it content.

Sex without love, for physical pleasure just like intoxicants etc.. DESTROYS the SOUL. Don't even think for a minute that it gives benefit to the soul.

A) God-Love-Soul go together and so do B) Mind-Body-Pleasure.
When you mix A with B then the result is damage and decline in one of them, whilst increase and gain in the other.

Someone who is highly spiritual and more embraced in the love of their soul and the god within DOES NOT think about or consider -sex-.
I can't understand why we are discussing this.- Why would the thought or question even cross your mind?????
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Someone who is highly spiritual and more embraced in the love of their soul and the god within DOES NOT think about or consider -sex-.
would such a person be considered a Sikh? Would not that person be heading towards udasi philosophies rather than Sikh?
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