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| | | | Is Gurbani to be Read or Heard? This week marks four hundred years since the King James Bible was finished ,those who translated it did it so that the finished Bible would suit public reading or we can say they styled it for the ear. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/37621-is-gurbani-to-be-read-heard.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37621 This made me think about how our Gurbani seems to resonate when read aloud .I have read Gurbani silently but can’t help thinking there is something special about our Guru’s word when read out aloud and so heard by the ear. It leads me to think we should read it and hear it, (read it out loud), or we should atleast sing it out loud so that we may feel it properly. The Guru's went to great effort to make their Divine Poetry Rhyme and when something rhymes it is easy on the ears and not very relevant to silent reading
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18-Nov-2011, 16:01 PM
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| | | | | Re: Is Gurbani to be Read or Heard? Spji,
My take on this is that some people may find the resonating sound hypnotic, and find themselves in a state of mind that has nothing at all to do with the content.
The same with singing, you can get lost in the music and the singing.
Look at it this way, If life is a school, and the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is our study book, what is the best way to absorb and understand the study material?
I suppose it makes it all a bit more 'fun' and palatable, but those studying to be doctors , I would imagine, concentrate and focus on the material, not the sound and resonance of the words. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37621
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18-Nov-2011, 16:12 PM
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Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is our study book
| Veer Ji I feel that our Guru's Divine Poetry should invoke why study what has already been studied by the Guru?
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18-Nov-2011, 16:30 PM
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| | | | | Re: Is Gurbani to be Read or Heard? Invoking sounds a bit Abrahamical, a bit Vedic, is not Sikhi a bit more pragmatic and realistic than chanting/singing for the purposes of invoking? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37621Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37621
Although I have no problem with chanting/singing, personally I feel this is a compromise made for those that need a bit of mysticism in their lives.
In my humble view, the correct path is one of study, pragmatic use of knowledge in daily life, and understanding of material contained, anything else is just fun and games | 
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| | | | | Re: Is Gurbani to be Read or Heard? In answer to the thread title, Yes. | | The following member appreciates Inderjeet Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
18-Nov-2011, 17:29 PM
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| | | | | Re: Is Gurbani to be Read or Heard? Quote: |
is not Sikhi a bit more pragmatic and realistic than chanting/singing for the purposes of invoking?
| Veer Ji It is a practical way of life but Religion has to have a spiritual aspect otherwise it's just a 'philosophia moral' (Ethics or a doctrine of duties).
Indi Ji please elaborate if you have time.
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18-Nov-2011, 18:07 PM
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| | | | | Re: Is Gurbani to be Read or Heard? You are of course correct, sometimes I find myself reading the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as if I was reading Plato, or Hesse, I find the information and the advice enlightening, and in tandem with Guru's voice in my head. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37621Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37621
I think the spiritual aspect works two ways though, it can assist you in the message, but it can also detract you from the message, I think you will understand what I mean, if this thread follows the mechanics of your other threads, the last few posts will undoubtedly prove you correct, as they always do | | The following members appreciate harry haller Ji for the above message. | | 
18-Nov-2011, 19:42 PM
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I find myself reading the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as if I was reading Plato, or Hesse
| Veer Ji I've heard of sexually repressed people but it seems that we are a spiritually repressed people!
I love poetry and the way words sound,in the hands of a Divine Lyricist they become something more than what they seem,the speak to your Self.
Try singing a Shabad aloud in punjabi ,try it with a Shabad that rhymes every line or every other line,you can't read it like you said ,it won't affect you properly.The atmosphere in a Gurdwara is created by that resonating,there is something at play which is more than just ink on paper.
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| | | | | Re: Is Gurbani to be Read or Heard? It is meant to be read and SUNG! Well singing is very important. And I think doing Paath is to sing to yourself if you can. | | The following member appreciates Kanwaljit Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
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