Amrit Rass in Sikhism

Amrit Dhara or Amrti Rass – Drip of Nector.

To enjoy that nector (love of God) leave this taste (attachments).
Once you enjoy the honey (Naam),
You will discard this drink (Maya).
Kabir (342-7)

Eh rass chhadae ouh rassu aavaa
Ouh rass peeaa eh rassu nahi bhaavaa
Kabir (342-7)

Amrit dhara – A trickle of Amrit. Amrit dhara is also known as Amrit-Rass, Amrit or simply Rass. Its source is the Tenth-Door (Dassam-Dwar) located at top of the head (claimed to be seat of God in the body). From there, it trickles on to the palate, tongue, and gives its sweet taste.
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Rass mean essence. It is said to be honey like sweet (treacle). Perhaps, it is enjoyment of the state of absolute oneness with the lord, which is expressed as the sweetest of all. In fact, its real import is to enjoy oneness (Leenth) with Jaap of Naam. It is getting immersed into Naam-Jaap is too enjoy oneness or enjoying it. Leenth, deep absorption is the Rass (enjoyment, joy) and it may be with Naam, Gurbani, Kirtan, Simran, or with the thoughts of God. This is the spiritual thing, but it may be there in its physical form of taste, depending on the faith one has in it.

 
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IS this for the "body" or the Spirit ??
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Amrit,,,,Naam rass..and then TONGUE is used to TASTE IT..like Honey..salt..bitter gourd ???
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Naam Rass..Amrit..is the FEEL GOOD FEELING one gets when the GURBANI is APPLIED in our Daily Lives.
ACTING the TRUTH..the SATNAM by being TRUTHFUL in daily ACTIONS gives the Feel Good sweet taste..and that "taste" is NOT PHYSICAL..but of the MANN.

I didn't know that, I think you are right,
thank you very much for the clarification.

you are completely wrong my friend go knee deep into the guru granth sahib and youll realize its actually physical very few people know about and fewer experience it why do u think it is translated to ambrosial nectar in english ambrosial means unexplainable taste

Biral ji,

Guru fateh.

Pardon my ignorance, but would you be kind enough to explain what you mean in lay man's terms with some examples from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji so I can understand what you are trying to convey?

By elaborating yourself, you can help us learn from you.

Thanks & regards

Tejwant Singh

sure tejwant its funny my dad actually has experienced it and he tells every1 his story and very few people believe him...actually how it is described in the guru granth sahib ji is exactly the same way my dad has experienced it....first of all it gets translated to ambrosial nectar n ambrosial means unexplainable taste when i ask my dad how it tastes he says i cant explain it sweeter than ne food or drink my dad says it comes up ur spines to ur head then trickles to ur tongue the feeling is euphoria u get fearless strength and high at the same time and money girls attachments have no effect on u...i dont have the exact quote but i remember a line where guru granth sahib ji says saint soilders angels mortal are all searching for the nectar

quotes from guru granth sahib ji
"Softly and gently, drop by drop, the Ambrosial Nectar trickles down" pg.74
"Their minds and bodies are absorbed in meditation on the Name of God; they drink in the Lord's Ambrosial Nectar" pg.81 (my dad is doing simran all day )
"In the Society of the Saints, you shall taste the treasure of the Ambrosial Nectar".Pg.91
(my dad got the nectar after meeting a saint for the first time just from his darshan my previously faithless dad had become filled with devotion did a request for his alcoholism the saint said for some people it may take a week or month but for you youll stop by tommorw because you have alot of devotion next day my dad never drank again and 3 days later my dad started feeling high but had not drank for 3 days and he asked the saint whats happening the saint said you have a 24/7 high of god ! but this is not even the nectar that came after it doesn't come continuously but when it comes its much more of an high compared to the 24/7 high my dad received it the guru granth sahib ji it says it god give his nectar to keep his sikhs in check so they dont go astray and same thing with my dad it happens every now n then but the 24/7 high stays he said hes done crack heroin but nothing compares to gods high.
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"They chant the Ambrosial Name with their tongues day and night; their minds and bodies are satisfied by this Amrit."pg 118

"I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice, to those Gurmukhs who drink in this Ambrosial Nectar. The tongue tastes the essence, and remains forever imbued with the Lord's Love, intuitively singing the Glorious Praises of the Lord"pg 119
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"The Immaculate Ambrosial Nectar is obtained from the Guru. When selfishness and conceit are eradicated from within, then there is no attachment to Maya."pg 121
"the Ambrosial Nectar is found within the home of your own being"pg 598
"The treasure of the Beloved Naam is within the True Guru; in His Mercy, he pours the Ambrosial Nectar into my mouth"pg605

"O Beloved, and the Lord's Ambrosial Nectar is on their tongue"p.636
"in the Society of the Holy Saints, and be absorbed in the Lord's Name"p.643

(yes you probably need a saint or sat guru to bless you with the nectar but you may
have met true saints before but do you have the devotion for a saint which leads to the nectar and salvation
only happens with gods grace so i suggest you to ask god for the same thing guru granth sahib ji suggests you to ask is the soceity of the saints where you will swim across!

Naam jap is the sweetest of all the 'Ras' .Yes, it is physical first but over a period of time it goes to mind. It is transitory in the beginning and remains for only few minutes but if one practices the 'word' ,as one deems fit, one gets intoxicated for quite some time. I am only a beginner but enjoy the company of 'Naam' and for me it is 'waheguru'.

It all happened in some minutes, there was a strong urge to pratice 'waheguru' while I was in gurudwara.

I came back and started chanting in low pitch 'waheguru' and there was no going back. I do not understand much of Gurbani. But for me entire bani is all but Nam-jap and on 'waheguru'.

There is nothing better than this. Nothing can ever be....

I know, Respected/Dear Tejwant ji, that you are a practitioner for quite some time and must have tasted the essence, a person like you can never miss it if a fool like me can taste it you deserve still the better...sharing some experiences with you. Yes, I still feel highs and lows ,may be my practice needs improvement but with passage of time ,I am hopeful, it would be still better.

Waheguru Mehar kare jeo...

With luv and regards!!

Biral ji,

Guru Fateh.

Thanks for sharing your dad's experience. I am glad that he has found the real Amrit in Gurbani after going through different landscapes and horizons of his life.

Your post indicates that Sikhi is the journey of the individual which I happen to agree with wholeheartedly. We all carry our own spiritual torches on this Sikhi Marg. It is a personal experience that can not be shared no matter how we describe it. It is Gungei di mithai that only an individual can experience.

Having said that and the way you have explained your dad's life, I am a bit puzzled about you not sharing your own experience on this Sikhi marg, yet you objected to when Gyani ji shared his.

Here is what Gyani ji said:


Following is your comment where you have judged him in a manner that contradicts what you explained about your dad's journey:

"you are completely wrong my friend go knee deep into the guru granth sahib and youll realize its actually physical very few people know about and fewer experience it why do u think it is translated to ambrosial nectar in english ambrosial means unexplainable taste."

1.How do you know that Gyani ji has not gone through the similar experience as your dad's?

2.Why is your dad's journey better than Gyani ji's in your opinion when it is the journey of the individual?

3.How do you know that Gyani ji has not "gone knee deep into Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji" (your words)?

I happen to agree with Gyani ji. If I am not mistaken, you did not give yourself enough time to understand what Gyani ji said in his post and jumped to conclusions.

Please do not take me wrong, I am not trying to defend Gyani ji. He is very much capable of doing that by himself through his own Sikhi journey which he shares almost daily in this forum.

Sikhi is not only about "feel good" but "do good" and do good can not happen by parroting Gurbani no matter how often or how loudly one does it. Simran, Naam, Jap do not mean parroting Gurbani.

In Jap, Guru Nanak Dev ji says:

Gaviaey, suniaey, munn rukhiaey bhao, dukh purhar sukh ghar lae jaey.

I would like your indulgence so we can both try to understand just one verse out of many in the 1429 pages of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

No matter how many millions of times we repeat the above verse, if we do not understand the message so that we can put it into practice in our lives, then it is all in vain.

Our Gurus were visionaries. The reason they wrote Gurbani into poetic/musical form is worth exploring so that we can understand this wonderful idea. All 3 Semitic religious books The Torah, The Bible, The Quran are in the prose form. In fact the Talibans who belong to Islam forbade any kind of music because according to them music is anti Islamic teachings.

Music plays a very important part in Sikhi. In fact it is the cornerstone of Sikhi. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is full of verses which encourage us to sing the praises of Ik Ong Kaar. Music makes us break our inner walls that we build within. It makes us burst out of the bubble that we dwell in. It makes us come out of our self created cocoons.Last but not the least it makes us straighten ourselves from the fetal position we spend our lives in so that we can stand up, out, and ready to embrace the world. As you may be very well aware that one can not embrace anything/anyone when one lives one's life in a fetal position.

In other words, music makes us defenseless by making us crumble the walls of our inner fortresses, so that we can become honest and truthful and begin to savour living with full of life.

Gaviaey, suniaey, munn rukhiaey bhao, dukh purhar sukh ghar lae jaey.

So, while singing the beautiful Shabad, we have found the connection and we feel good about it. Even our body starts moving along both from the inside and the outside, hence creating the Gurmat dance for each of us. Now, if we just keep on singing which is making us feel good and do not try to grasp the meaning of the Shabad then this "high" may last even much less than the "heroine high" your dad used to go through.

Then Guru Nanak says, listen to the message, grasp it, study it and understand it so that it can be practiced in our lives. This is the only way we, as Sikhs are capable of breeding goodness within which we can share with others. This is the only way we can find tools to confront all odds and be at peace with ourselves no matter how many negative forces we are in battle with. This is what Sikhi is about.

Biral ji and Twinkle ji,

Parroting may make us feel good for a little while but if does not create the springboard to do good which is the foundation of Sikhi. Only by studying, understanding and using the tools attained through Gurbani, a Sikh begins this beautiful journey.

In closing, let's savour our individual journeys on this Sikhi marg and share our experiences rather than imposing them unto others by second guessing fellow Sikhs who are also on the same path but may be at a different milestone which is only known to Ik Ong Kaar.

This is true Amrit rass. Rest is all lip service.

Regards

Tejwant Singh

me personally i dont do simran or read any gurbani i only do seva only because for like a year i did the third eye mediataion and now if i do simran or read my head starts hurting i asked my saint what to do he said stop focusing on the third eye and just do seva and just do simran when ur working or whatever but dont sit down and focus .... im just so grateful im able to serve a true saint how many times does it says in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that serving the saint you receive everything i remember a line where it said the saints feet or pools of ambrosial nectar i even asked my saint if i could every get the same thing my dad has he said ya i could give it no promblem i wus shocked and asked if i could get it in this life he said yes no problem then he told me to come back tommorw and he would tell me what to do to get it i never went back the next day but i guess he would say seva simran sat sangat ....once some guy asked the same question if he could get the same thing my dad has the saint said some people get it right away while for others it may take time. but once you get the nectar you have basically met god because once the saint told my dad the path to god is really hard and long but you have basically met god

biral ji
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I hope this is not too personal a question. For the sake of giving us more background for your comments, would you share the name of your guru with us? Or maybe you are alking about a spiritual teacher when you say guru. As you probably know the Tat Khalsa perspective is that Sri Guru Granth Sahib is the only guru. If you have a different understanding, then to know the tradition you follow would make the conversation easier to follow.