Labana?

Hello, my name is Jaskaran Singh Multani.

I am very unknown to my last name. I did some research and found that Multani's are Labana's who are salt traders and considered a 'low' caste. Is this true?

I am very lost about what clan I am from, what my ancestors did, and where the Labana's level up in the caste system.
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If you are a Singh then how you can be a Multani? A Sikh has no caste to worry about.

The Most famous Lobanna i know is Makhan Shaha Lobana who discovered Guru Teg bahadur Ji....as the TRUE GURU. Yes Lobannas are TRADERS....

BUT as my friend Aman Singh Ji has pointed out above..ALL that Really matters Now is Khandey batte dee Pahul..and SINGH. IF you are a SINGH..then all the rest doesnt matter one iota...FORGET it and Begin Living as a PROUD SINGH..remember Singh is KING !! What does it matter to me..I am a Dhillon jatt..BUT i dont own an inch of land and never farmed..so you may be a lobanna..but may never trade in anything...who CARES ?? Its what we are TODAY that matters...enjoy Life.

Lost Sikh ji , Please try to feel that merely this talk HIGH CASTE & LOW CASTE
of is nothing but a trap set up by wily Brahmins who migrated from Persia in around 1500 BC . Wrote the first Veda Rigveda wherin Purush Sutra verse 1, it was written The Creator of Universe is Brahma from the mouth of Brahma was born Brahmin From the chest Kshatriya From the Legs was born Vaishya from the feet was born Shudra . All the four Vedas later Smritis gave this God status to Brahmin . In Varna system a starving Brahmin is superior than a Kshatriya emperor who IS the master of maybe whole country or even whole world . A shudra & also a women is treated worse than an animal they both CAN never be imagined to be liberated until they ARE born again as what is known as DWIJAS ie twice born Kshatriya or Vaishya This self-appointed status has been very cleverly & carefully preserved by WILY Brahmins in last 3500 years just to keep themselves in self- appointed
top position Remember migrating Aryans were Brahmins & Kshatriyas , original inhabitants Dravidians were Shudras . All Puranas describe Asuras , Demons as bad like Ravana , Kans , Hirnyakashyapu etc among countless others & were black infact they were Dravidians or Shudras . All Devtas or Gods were fair comlexioned in short Brahmins & Kshatriyas . We all are very fimiliar with the term BRAHMIN DEVTA which is exactly what the reality is . All these DEVI DEVTAS were none other than Brahmins themselves , their wives , daughters , kings , queens ( labelled so by Brahmins themselves in lieu of Fat Dakshina ) . All Puranas Ramayana Mahabharata are FALSE MYTHOLOGICAL books depicting the superiority of Brahmins & Kshatriyas over Shudras only cementing the VARNA SYSTEM no other good comes out of them . No devi devta was ever born . India is UNIQUE in whole world in two respects . One is the Varna System which is not present in any of the 190 countries around the world . Other is 330 million Devi Devtas , out of seven major world religions namely Christinity , Islam , Hinduism , Buddhism , Sikhism , Judaism & Jainism , only Hinduism has 330 million Devi Devtas who are infact Brahmins themselves . Brahmin tells worshipper to worship certain Devi Devtas for fulfilment of certain wishes , method & offerings of worship ( Karam Kand ) In the evening the same is gobbled up by the same Brahmin the self appointed agent of 330 million gods & godesses . Which is why Hinduism is commonly known as BRAHMINISM . This system is very very hard on Shudras & women who cannot be liberated unless they take rebirth as Kshatriyas & Vaishyas . Sikhism with Ek OANGKAAR is a direct blow for Brahminism & a ray of hope for all down trodden including Shudras & women who are given un conditional equal status . So dear brother kindly don't let ourselves fall into the trap of wily Brahmins by this Low - High caste etc rubbish . We are all the same I say again DIRT OF HINDU SOCIETY & likely to remain so unless we try to listen to message of Gurbani & try to become better humans by becoming better & better Sikhs.
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Let us look ourselves in the mirror & ask ourselves what have we become , a Follower of Gurus or a follower of CASTIST BRAHMIN . WJKK WJKF .
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One more thing I like to add , in last 3500 years only six persons IMHO have done something for so called Hinduism . First is Ved Vyasa author of Vedas & probabely Mahabharata in 10th BC , second is Adi shankracharya in 8th AD who single handedly drove Buddhism out of India which had become religion of 80% of India , third Vivekanada , fourth Rabindranath Tagore fifth Gandhi & sixth Radha Krishnana the past President of India . How many people remember today I can say for sure NOT MANY. Whom they remember is Raam , Krishna , Hanumaan , Ganesh etc who were mythological characters were never born 330 Million gods & goddesses whose reality I have explained . Because Brahmins will never allow any REAL HUMAN to change the system , everthing is created mythologically because the DIVINE word is the PRESERVANCE of Varna System which is suitabely done by mythological characters who are created & killed as per the STORY LINE demand The do all their deeds as per the whims of ALMIGHTY BRAHMIN DEVTA

sat shri akal,
heartiest greetings on the birth anniversary of our beloved our lord Guru Nanak.

lost Sikh,
brother no one can make your feel small without your own consent you need to grow up enlarge your thinking.
about labana's i would say they are hard working race were amongst soldiers of Guru Gobind singh. but your surname reflects some other points multani is refered as a term for the people of multan and i have seen some Hindus who use it which may some exception as there might be few or no labana Hindus since most of them are Sikhs or Muslim(called rahmanis).
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Aman singh,
brother we Sikhs are humans and not all of us are committed Sikhs some of us may say they consider all equal but somewhere we are caste conscious may be you will try to understand but i admire you thinking and point of view and would like to see every Sikh like that.

dhillon shaab aka gyani ji,
actually like hairs don't make us Sikh land doesn't make us jatt i may have land today but i seldom know if my coming generations will have it or not what matters is our respect for our traditions and the way we conserve them so we are jats since we consider "dharti our maa"
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dalbirk,
brother you cannot consider Brahman's to be the soul cause of casteism actually people exploit you when the see they can
if Hinduism is the reason of casteism why is it still prevalent in Punjabi community where Hinduism is so distinct(considering all Punjabi's world wide) just think about it as how when a khatri converted to Islam and became a sheikh and when a k'a'n'j'a'r converted he was still a K'a'n'j'a'r why?

yes there was a time when Hinduism was at the verge of getting extinct at about the 12 th century and the bharmins saved it but do you know how again holding the weak nerve of our society the caste system they actually declared that who so ever converts will be given a place in the kshatriya and other high castes community and soon people began to convert.

and there are two people you forgot to add without whom there would have been not even a kid to say "Rama".our Guru's Guru Tegh bahadur and Guru Gobind Singh.

and one more thing which one of my favorite teacher told me at high school that hanumaan was a jatt how? i will answer it will reason if gurdas maan, harbhajan maan,
bhagwant maan are jatts why not hanu-maan

dear brother aman and Gyani jarnail singh ji
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your quietness well approves that you are not satisfied with my point of view and in the last post i couldn't explain you in the right manner actually words are like dead bodies and only scavengers like emotions can eat and digest them away i cannot present the emotions that i have with words when you read them your mind interprets the emotions that are produced by you this is one of the reasons that while some people like a book the others don't.
let me now explain my point of view look brothers no one of us will accept the saying that we are not males because we are Sikhs to show respect and equality for womens similarly saying that we are not Indians because we are Sikhs to show respect for people from other nationalities is not the right way in a similar fashion saying that we are not Punjabi's since we are Sikhs to show respect for people having other ethnicity is wrong too.
being a Sikh a jatt an Indian a Punjabi a male these are all limited to this earth i have to identify my own soul without all these things but as long as i am with them i will have to accept the truth.
like there is a saying in Punjabi "sheran diyan mariyan giddar khande ne" people may claim to be from the caste and tribe of great mens but at last what matters is our personal bravery and skills.
most of the socialist governments advocate not to use surnames because the surnames are a hindrance in the path of equality as per their beliefs but is it possible that by not using a surname they can expect their people to have the feeling of equality no that is not possible we on the other hand are Sikhs we must consider every every human equal whatever be his cate creed sex tribe or nationality he/she is equal to us we must not loose our identity at the same time is that a big deal?

you can watch this video if you wish

sikh_royalist ji

I understand your frustration -- and you are right -- sometimes language gets in the way of sharing honest thoughts.

If you feel misunderstood-- I think it is because you have stated something that is more implied than directly out there in the world of concrete observation -- in other words you are talking about double meanings and hidden intentions -- and these are hard to explain directly. But I don't see your message as hard to understand. The story about your teacher is shocking and he managed to talk in a way that allowed him to get away with it. He was using sarcasm -- and probably said more than once -- OH, that is just my humor -- don't you get it.
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People like that are really hard to put aside and their words are even harder to forget.

Multani is the area your ancestors came from. Mutani can be many castes. Labana's are traditionally salt traders and rope makers.

As Sikh Labana's have become formidable warriors and enlisted in huge numbers in the British Army as Sikhs.

Some famous Labana's of late are:

• Bibi Jagir Kaur - President of the SGPC (formerly)
• Fiddhoo - Kabbadhi player (probably the best in the world).

Older Labana chachaters are:

• Makhan Shah Labana - follower of the Sikh Guru's.

Here is a list of some others:

Labana World - Lobanas of Panjab(1849-1947)

Hope this helps.

Important to remember, that although knowing your history is important, as a Sikh, in front of the history our Guru's gave us, it is unimportant.