
30-Mar-2005, 20:24 PM
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| | | | | New Gurdwaras and Under construction Sat sri akal ji to all!! Please post of any traditional Gurdwaras worth visiting over the world and any under contruction. Name: Sri Guru Singh Sabha Status: Already built Address and Phone: Havelock Road, Southall, Middlesex, UB2 4NP, United Kingdom, 020 8574 8901 Info: Cost £17.m to built. See picture attached. Name: Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Status: Under construction Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-news/2667-new-gurdwaras-and-under-construction.html Address and Phone: Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara, Clarence Place, Gravesend, Kent, England, 01474) 534121 / 350611 Info: http://www.novapeer.co.uk/gravesend/new_gurdwara.html , http://www.novapeer.co.uk/ Name: Guru Nanak Satsang Sabha [Karamsar] Status: Under Construction Address and Phone: High Road, Ilford, Essex, UK Info: This Gurdwara will be made traditionally and have domes and stonework. Do not know much about it BUT it is a bus ride from me so I will inform all when it opens. http://www.sikhnet.com/Sikhnet/news....E?OpenDocument Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2667
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31-Mar-2005, 12:10 PM
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| | | | | Re: New Gurdwaras and Under construction Thanks Caramel for info. Please do keep us updated.
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12-Apr-2005, 00:01 AM
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| | | | | Re: New Gurdwaras and Under construction Gurfateh Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2667
Karamsar is complelted and started to function since yesterday.Visit Karamsar.co.uk. It is from Rara Sahib Sants. | 
12-Apr-2005, 00:10 AM
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| | | | | Re: New Gurdwaras and Under construction Quote: |
Originally Posted by vijaydeep Singh Gurfateh
Karamsar is complelted and started to function since yesterday.Visit Karamsar.co.uk. It is from Rara Sahib Sants. | Veer ji,
Sorry for my ignorance. Is Karamsar related with Nanaksar in any way?
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12-Apr-2005, 03:25 AM
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| | | | | Re: New Gurdwaras and Under construction The Gurdwara that is a bus ride from me is AMAZING... it opens in a month and it is being made entirely from a maroon stone... it is BEAUTIFUL so far... can't wait to see it when it opens.
Vijaydeep - The Gurdwara you speak of that has just been done in India is being made by the same group that are building the one near me! | 
12-Apr-2005, 22:10 PM
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| | | | | Re: New Gurdwaras and Under construction Gurfateh
Karamsar are from Rara Sahib Taksal.Visit rarasahib.com for that.
Nanaksar has many things in commen with Karamsar but this order is an offshoot of Nirmalas by Baba Nand Singh Ji.Das may not agree to the views of latter but still respect them a lot(They worship or say rever pictures of Guru or Sant whcih das may not like yet that can be tolrated as a way for new leraners.)
Coming back to former Karamsar they are from the time of Guru Ji.And from Bhai Daya Singh Ji onwards.They are expert in preaching Atam Marg(Sant Ishar Singh Ji).
Das is repeating that Taksalis,Nirmalas,Sevpanthis or Udasis are not the sects but special gruops of main stream Panth.Like in Gurudwara we have Langri(cook),Kath Kar(who explains Gurmat),Ragi(singers) etc. all having differnt work and diffenrt code other then commen minmum code.
Das can say that if Nanaksar are giving more empetous to devotion.Karamsar also give more on Name's of Gods Jap(reciting) and seva service.Both should be respected till they respect the views of other Sikhs who are not from them and most of them do respect. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2667Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2667
Carmel Brother if you want just try to meet Baba Ji over there but it will be bit difficult to leanr meditaion from Them as they do not part easyly unlike Baba Virsa Singh(Gobind Sadan) or Yogi Bhajan(3ho) but Das can say that meditation toght by Rara Sahib or Karamsar people is 101 times more usefull then other two people told who are more famous in west ie yogi Bhajan or Baba Virsa Singh Ji.
Good Luck.
(if you want detail you can contact Das on personal message). | 
12-Apr-2005, 23:35 PM
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| | | | | Re: New Gurdwaras and Under construction Vijaydeep then I have got it wrong... this is one of the few Gurdwaras I have seen that does not have any pictures up on the wall... the current one which is a house does not have any pictures and I doubt the new one will so i have got it wrong. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2667Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2667
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14-Apr-2005, 23:50 PM
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| | | | | Re: New Gurdwaras and Under construction Gurfateh!
Well Karamsar people also have good lots of pictures in thier Gurudwaras but not like Nanaksar. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2667
Sikh Panth tells of ditachment while living in world.Unlike yogis who leave world and go to Jungle our Sants who are true may live in civilised world and carry out preaching.
They may marry but unlike in present day Islam marriege is not compusary in Sikhism.
But Married Sants are treated equal to unmarried one and any unmariied can not say that he/she is great due to not marraying. | 
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| | | | | | | Re: New Gurdwaras and Under construction The new Karamsar (Gurudwara) Sikh Temple in Ilford , London, UK is now 95% complete. It is a spectacular building combining traditional mughlai/sikh architecture with western designs.
You may wish to visit www.karamsar.co.uk to view images of the gurudwara. | 
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