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Chandigarh, Feb 24 : Radical Sikh leader, Simranjit Singh Mann Tuesday demanded that Punjab be declared a 'buffer state' with its own independent government, given its sensitive location between India and Pakistan.
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Had this joker asked for Lahore to be declared as a Buffer state ..it would be a pleasure..he wont stop his monkey ways ....
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Unless India and Pakistan have tactical nuclear weapons buffer states are of no use whatsoever. The entire region will be one big mound of radioactive ash if all parties including Europe, US and other Asian countries don't get a grip.
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Buffer state for "buffers or duffers"?? This is Election Time !!! Punajb's 13 lok sbaha seats re for grabs.... that buffer thing is Mann's idea of ammunition !! The People of Punajb already gave him his chance BIG TIME with 9 or 10 seats with vast majorities...He SQUANDERED IT.
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Gyani ji

Better you should speak on the issue than I where Punjabi is concerned. However, any time in history when a "buffer" state was declared (or whatever term one wishes to use) the buffer state was torn apart from within and from without. From within, by dissident factions who were being paid off by one side or the other and threatened with extinction by one side or the other if they did not accept "protection" by their dissident sponsors on one side or the other. From without, because "buffer states" are usually if not always on the well-traveled path between warring factions. They experience wave after wave of invasion from one side or the other, from land and from air. Is anyone taking this politician seriously? Punjab would be toast.
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Chandigarh, Feb 24 : Radical Sikh leader, Simranjit Singh Mann Tuesday demanded that Punjab be declared a 'buffer state' with its own independent government, given its sensitive location between India and Pakistan.

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Simranjit Singh Mann was a good person and a great Sikh. Once upon a time, he was stationed as DIG of police in Ferozepore and befriended my family and became very close. I have never met him in person. Only heard of him through my older brother Harsimran who was a buddy of his.I was living in the UK then. He was a devout Sikh and had a mirror in his office. The reason for the mirror was that any Sipahi who was a Sikh but had a trimmed beard was encourged in a coercive way to change his style and he was quite successful in that. He helped a lot of people during his tenure there.

His downfall started when he was the only Sikh elected as the MP and he refused to enter the Parliament without his 3 ft kirpan which I thought was more an arrogant part of Me-ism on his part rather than taking the best of his oppurtunity to become the spokesperson of the Sikhs. As he refused to leave his 3 ft Kirpan, he also lost the oppurtunity to travel in the capacity of MP abroad and tell the world the atrocities commited on the minority Sikhs and on Punjab by the Central Govt. From there on it was all downhill for him from all aspects.

For me buffer zone is like building your own cocoon and we all know that we can only hear our own voices of " freedom" echoing in our own ears when we confine ourselves in our self made prisons. Freedom is not attained by any kind of walls, how imaginary they may be, and without freedom there can never be progress.

The only long term solution for Punjab is when ALL the corrupt members of the Govt are put behind bars and some kind of bill should be passed where there ican not be any political interference with the SGPC and SGPC should be managed by the educated managers, not by those whose only qualifictions are the lengths of their beards and pugs.

Once we step into the sarover of Gurmat pragmatism rather than living in the muck of
manmat as we have for this long, hence falsely hoping to become lotus flowers one day, then only can we start having a Govt that can lead its people to the life of Miri- Piri, which will result in progress from all facets of life.

Then they say I am a dreamer........

Tejwant Singh
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Simranjit Singh Mann was a good person and a great Sikh, once upon a time. He was stationed as DIG of police in Ferozepore and befriended my family and became very close. I have never met him in person. Only heard of him through my older brother Harsimran who was a buddy of his.I was living in the UK then. He was a devout Sikh and had a mirror in his office. The reason for the mirror was that any Sipahi who was a Sikh but had a trimmed beard was encourged in a coercive way to change his style and he was quite successful in that. He helped a lot of people during his tenure there.

His downfall started when he was the only Sikh elected as the MP and he refused to enter the Parliament without his 3 ft kirpan which I thought was more an arrogant part of Me-ism on his part rather than taking the best of his oppurtunity to become the spokesperson of the Sikhs. As he refused to leave his 3 ft Kirpan, he also lost the oppurtunity to travel in the capacity of MP abroad and tell the world the atrocities commited on the minority Sikhs and on Punjab by the Central Govt. From there on it was all downhill for him from all aspects.

For me buffer zone is like building your own cocoon and we all know that we can only hear our own voices of " freedom" echoing in our own ears when we confine ourselves in our self made prisons. Freedom is not attained by any kind of walls, how imaginary they may be, and without freedom there can never be progress.

The only long term solution for Punjab is when ALL the corrupt members of the Govt are put behind bars and some kind of bill should be passed where there ican not be any political interference with the SGPC and SGPC should be managed by the educated managers, not by those whose only qualifictions are the lengths of their beards and pugs.

Once we step into the sarover of Gurmat pragmatism rather than living in the muck of
manmat as we have for this long, hence falsely hoping to become lotus flowers one day, then only can we start having a Govt that can lead its people to the life of Miri- Piri, which will result in progress from all facets of life.

Then they say I am a dreamer........

Tejwant Singh

Not quite the "Only Sikh"..... the Mann Akali Dal party won outright 6 Parliamentary seats and had the undivided full suppport of 3 more...so it CONTROLLED 9 out of the 11 seats of PUNJAB in 1989. No other party has had this big a win...and also huge MAJORITIES never seen before.

Traditionally the SIKH/Akali dal parliamnetarians have always kept QUIET in the Lok Sabha....seldom opening their mouths....in 1989...the Main Winner Simranjit Singh mann never even entered lok sabha ( due to Kirpan problem as correctly stated by Tejwant ji above) The other 8 members of his party KEPT QUIET - following the tradition of Punjab members of the Lok sabha.

After 1989 he and his party has lost all seats everytime....( perfectly understandable as they wont enter parliament even if won...).
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Not quite the "Only Sikh"..... the Mann Akali Dal party won outright 6 Parliamentary seats and had the undivided full suppport of 3 more...so it CONTROLLED 9 out of the 11 seats of PUNJAB in 1989. No other party has had this big a win...and also huge MAJORITIES never seen before.

Traditionally the SIKH/Akali dal parliamnetarians have always kept QUIET in the Lok Sabha....seldom opening their mouths....in 1989...the Main Winner Simranjit Singh mann never even entered lok sabha ( due to Kirpan problem as correctly stated by Tejwant ji above) The other 8 members of his party KEPT QUIET - following the tradition of Punjab members of the Lok sabha.

After 1989 he and his party has lost all seats everytime....( perfectly understandable as they wont enter parliament even if won...).
Gyani ji

Guru Fateh.

Thanks for the correction. As I was not in India then, hence was not aware that this crime was not only commited by one but by 9 Sikhs who had the chance to bring Sikh Holocaust of 1984 and other atrocities to light to the rest of the world. Sadly they chose not to.

Where is Nishkaam Seva when it is needed the most?!

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Tejwant Singh
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