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Dear friends,

I am referring to 'Katha' of Late Gyani Maskeen ji [relayed in the evening at etc. Punjabi channel on 29/30/31 May 2007] in which Gyani ji stated that before this creation came into being there was only Mist and fog.
He uttered one word 'Ong' and the entire universe was created alongwith this the five elements.

Is this 'Ong ' the same as we refer to in 'Ik Ongkar'? Someone of you might share knowledge on this subject as this line of thinking is not know to us.

Regards

In My opinion it is the first word uttered by The Almighty HImself. However, if one does not believe in it will it matter.? For your kind and valuable opinion.




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The big bang theory which has been discovered just lately has already been mentioned in the SGGS (I request someone to find the exact verse in the SGGS and let me know) by Guru Nanak Devji.

In essence Nanak mentions that indeed there is one hymn that is constantly ringing in the universe, the ‘Onkar’ hymn.


The universe was created with a big bang, after which the hot upper crust of our freshly created planet cooled down and transformed into hard rock which further broke down into stones.

STONES were the first life on earth. They had a soul but is was completely asleep, and physically they were incapable of anything. Ordinary stones evolved to precious stones like HEERA, PANNA etc.

Through years and years of evolution these precious STONES evolved into VANASPATI (plants) which were physically capable of making there own food and even move a little (as has been known) but you can say that they were physically limited. They had a soul which could feel pain, the changing weather patterns and so on. So the soul had awakened a little. Ordinary plants and foliage evolved into grand plants like the Banyan, Tulsi etc. which were grand enough to be worshipped.

This grand VANASPATI evolved into ANIMAL life which had very advanced physical capabilities and their soul could feel sentiments like pain, detachment, sorrow, happiness etc more deeply. Their soul had awakened further but only to the limit of satisfying their own needs like hunger, shelter etc. They could only think about themselves. They lived and survived on the a physical level. Ordinary animal species evolved into grander species like the Lion, Elephant, Cow (which was grand enough to be worshipped).

These grand ANIMALS evolved into the HUMAN BEING, a being whose physical capabilities were as enhanced than animals if not more, but most importantly who had a soul which was fully awakened to it’s surroundings and it could respond to innumerable stimuli.

According to SGGS the HUMAN BEING stands at the crossroads.
GOING FORWARD – This is the process of following our Guru’s teachings, letting go of AHANKAR and MOH of the MAYA, doing NAAM-SIMRAN, and gradually achieves the enjoin of the AATMA with the PARAMAATMA. Then the HUMAN BEING becomes as THE SUPREME BEING and his soul breaks the shackles of birth and death and becomes free. But this is possible only if such an occurrence has already been granted to you based on your previous Karma.
GOING BACKWARD – This is the process of going in the opposite direction to the one preached in the SGGS. The HUMAN BEING can desecrate his soul and spirit so low that his rebirth would be destined as an ANIMAL.
GOING RIGHT – If the HUMAN BEING despite following the Guru’s teachings is not able to achieve the ultimate enjoin of his AATMA with the PARAMATMA, then upon death of such an HUMAN BEING his soul shall have to again be born as an HUMAN BEING to achieve the final freedom. Until then such souls mostly throng religious places where God’s name is said.
GOING LEFT – If a HUMAN BEING lives a normal wordly life but has not done anything spiritually, then after death the souls of such HUMAN BEINGS are reborn time and time again till they become capable of going forward spiritually. Until then such souls mostly throng places like bars, discos, brothels etc.

So been an HUMAN BEING is an opportunity to be able to achieve the SUPREME BEING. This opportunity is only available to HUMANS because this physical body is necessary to be able to achieve the ultimate enjoin. As SGGS quotes : ‘IIS DEHI KO SIMRE DEV’

These thoughts are courtesy GIANI SANT SINGH JI MASKEEN’S katha on the above subject, which is one of my favourite Gurbani Vichar. I request you Gursikhs to find out the verses in the SGGS those reflect the above Vichar, and please let me know.




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Old 06-06-2007, 03:45 AM
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Re: The first 'word' Of sound >> Invite Your Friends

Respected Pritpal_Singh Ji,



Panna # 3

kIqw pswau eyko kvwau ]
iqs qy hoey lK drIAwau ]
kudriq kvx khw vIcwru ]
vwirAw n jwvw eyk vwr ]

Panna # 7

rwqI ruqI iQqI vwr ]
pvx pwxI AgnI pwqwl ]
iqsu ivic DrqI Qwip rKI Drm swl ]
iqsu ivic jIA jugiq ky rMg ]
iqn ky nwm Anyk Anµq ]
krmI krmI hoie vIcwru ]
scw Awip scw drbwru ]
iqQY sohin pMc prvwxu ]
ndrI krim pvY nIswxu ]
kc pkweI EQY pwie ]
nwnk gieAw jwpY jwie ]34]




panna # 19

qnu jil bil mwtI BieAw mnu mwieAw moih mnUru ]
Aaugx iPir lwgU Bey kUir vjwvY qUru ]
ibnu sbdY BrmweIAY duibDw foby pUru ]1]
mn ry sbid qrhu icqu lwie ]
ijin gurmuiK nwmu n bUiJAw mir jnmY AwvY jwie ]1] rhwau ]
qnu sUcw so AwKIAY ijsu mih swcw nwau ]
BY sic rwqI dyhurI ijhvw scu suAwau ]
scI ndir inhwlIAY bhuiV n pwvY qwau ]2]
swcy qy pvnw BieAw pvnY qy jlu hoie ]
jl qy iqRBvxu swijAw Git Git joiq smoie ]
inrmlu mYlw nw QIAY sbid rqy piq hoie ]3]
iehu mnu swic sMqoiKAw ndir kry iqsu mwih ]
pMc BUq sic BY rqy joiq scI mn mwih ]
nwnk Aaugx vIsry guir rwKy piq qwih ]4]15]


panna# 1035


Arbd nrbd DuMDUkwrw ]
Drix n ggnw hukmu Apwrw ]
nw idnu rYin n cMdu n sUrju suMn smwiD lgwiedw ]1]
KwxI n bwxI paux n pwxI ]
Epiq Kpiq n Awvx jwxI ]
KMf pqwl spq nhI swgr ndI n nIru vhwiedw ]2]
nw qid surgu mCu pieAwlw ]
dojku iBsqu nhI KY kwlw ]
nrku surgu nhI jMmxu mrxw nw ko Awie n jwiedw ]3]
bRhmw ibsnu mhysu n koeI ]
Avru n dIsY eyko soeI ]
nwir purKu nhI jwiq n jnmw nw ko duKu suKu pwiedw ]4]
nw qid jqI sqI bnvwsI ]
nw qid isD swiDk suKvwsI ]
jogI jMgm ByKu n koeI nw ko nwQu khwiedw ]5]
jp qp sMjm nw bRq pUjw ]
nw ko AwiK vKwxY dUjw ]
Awpy Awip aupwie ivgsY Awpy kImiq pwiedw ]6]
nw suic sMjmu qulsI mwlw ]
gopI kwnu n gaU guoAwlw ]
qMqu mMqu pwKMfu n koeI nw ko vMsu vjwiedw ]7]
krm Drm nhI mwieAw mwKI ]
jwiq jnmu nhI dIsY AwKI ]
mmqw jwlu kwlu nhI mwQY nw ko iksY iDAwiedw ]8]
inMdu ibMdu nhI jIau n ijMdo ]
nw qid gorKu nw mwiCMdo ]
nw qid igAwnu iDAwnu kul Epiq nw ko gxq gxwiedw ]9]
vrn ByK nhI bRhmx KqRI ]
dyau n dyhurw gaU gwieqRI ]
hom jg nhI qIriQ nwvxu nw ko pUjw lwiedw ]10]
nw ko mulw nw ko kwjI ]
nw ko syKu mswieku hwjI ]
reIAiq rwau n haumY dunIAw nw ko khxu khwiedw ]11]
Bwau n BgqI nw isv skqI ]
swjnu mIqu ibMdu nhI rkqI ]
Awpy swhu Awpy vxjwrw swcy eyho Bwiedw ]12]
byd kqyb n isMimRiq swsq ]
pwT purwx audY nhI Awsq ]
khqw bkqw Awip Agocru Awpy AlKu lKwiedw ]13]
jw iqsu Bwxw qw jgqu aupwieAw ]
bwJu klw Awfwxu rhwieAw ]
bRhmw ibsnu mhysu aupwey mwieAw mohu vDwiedw ]14]
ivrly kau guir sbdu suxwieAw ]
kir kir dyKY hukmu sbwieAw ]
KMf bRhmMf pwqwl ArMBy gupqhu prgtI Awiedw ]15]
qw kw AMqu n jwxY koeI ]
pUry gur qy soJI hoeI ]
nwnk swic rqy ibsmwdI ibsm Bey gux gwiedw ]16]



panna # 4

BrIAY hQu pYru qnu dyh ]
pwxI DoqY auqrsu Kyh ]
mUq plIqI kpVu hoie ]
dy swbUxu leIAY Ehu Doie ]
BrIAY miq pwpw kY sMig ]
Ehu DopY nwvY kY rMig ]
puMnI pwpI AwKxu nwih ]
kir kir krxw iliK lY jwhu ]
Awpy bIij Awpy hI Kwhu ]
nwnk hukmI Awvhu jwhu ]


Whatever i could think of on the top of my head........

The four points(going forward, backward.....) that you are talking about, there is a lot we can bring together- whenever i will get a chance, may be somebody else will help us as well.

VERY GOOD POINTS you brought up.

Have heard a lot about Sant Singh Ji Maskeen, never had a chance to meet the Saintly Soul. Meeting through you now. thanks a lot.


THANKS

humbly asking for everybody's forgiveness




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The big bang theory which has been discovered just lately has already been mentioned in the SGGS (I request someone to find the exact verse in the SGGS and let me know) by Guru Nanak Devji.

In essence Nanak mentions that indeed there is one hymn that is constantly ringing in the universe, the ‘Onkar’ hymn.

The universe was created with a big bang, after which the hot upper crust of our freshly created planet cooled down and transformed into hard rock which further broke down into stones.

STONES were the first life on earth. They had a soul but is was completely asleep, and physically they were incapable of anything. Ordinary stones evolved to precious stones like HEERA, PANNA etc.

Through years and years of evolution these precious STONES evolved into VANASPATI (plants) which were physically capable of making there own food and even move a little (as has been known) but you can say that they were physically limited. They had a soul which could feel pain, the changing weather patterns and so on. So the soul had awakened a little. Ordinary plants and foliage evolved into grand plants like the Banyan, Tulsi etc. which were grand enough to be worshipped.

This grand VANASPATI evolved into ANIMAL life which had very advanced physical capabilities and their soul could feel sentiments like pain, detachment, sorrow, happiness etc more deeply. Their soul had awakened further but only to the limit of satisfying their own needs like hunger, shelter etc. They could only think about themselves. They lived and survived on the a physical level. Ordinary animal species evolved into grander species like the Lion, Elephant, Cow (which was grand enough to be worshipped).

These grand ANIMALS evolved into the HUMAN BEING, a being whose physical capabilities were as enhanced than animals if not more, but most importantly who had a soul which was fully awakened to it’s surroundings and it could respond to innumerable stimuli.

According to SGGS the HUMAN BEING stands at the crossroads.
GOING FORWARD – This is the process of following our Guru’s teachings, letting go of AHANKAR and MOH of the MAYA, doing NAAM-SIMRAN, and gradually achieves the enjoin of the AATMA with the PARAMAATMA. Then the HUMAN BEING becomes as THE SUPREME BEING and his soul breaks the shackles of birth and death and becomes free. But this is possible only if such an occurrence has already been granted to you based on your previous Karma.
GOING BACKWARD – This is the process of going in the opposite direction to the one preached in the SGGS. The HUMAN BEING can desecrate his soul and spirit so low that his rebirth would be destined as an ANIMAL.
GOING RIGHT – If the HUMAN BEING despite following the Guru’s teachings is not able to achieve the ultimate enjoin of his AATMA with the PARAMATMA, then upon death of such an HUMAN BEING his soul shall have to again be born as an HUMAN BEING to achieve the final freedom. Until then such souls mostly throng religious places where God’s name is said.
GOING LEFT – If a HUMAN BEING lives a normal wordly life but has not done anything spiritually, then after death the souls of such HUMAN BEINGS are reborn time and time again till they become capable of going forward spiritually. Until then such souls mostly throng places like bars, discos, brothels etc.

So been an HUMAN BEING is an opportunity to be able to achieve the SUPREME BEING. This opportunity is only available to HUMANS because this physical body is necessary to be able to achieve the ultimate enjoin. As SGGS quotes : ‘IIS DEHI KO SIMRE DEV’

These thoughts are courtesy GIANI SANT SINGH JI MASKEEN’S katha on the above subject, which is one of my favourite Gurbani Vichar. I request you Gursikhs to find out the verses in the SGGS those reflect the above Vichar, and please let me know.

Some of the quotes have been referred to above. You may like to advise further.




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WALKING THE PATH OF THE SPIRIT


GURUBANI PREACHES ONLY THE SPIRITUAL PATH FOR EACH SOUL, AND THE WRONGS AND RIGHTS REQUIRED FOR DOCKING OUR SOUL ON TO THE TRACK OF THIS SPIRITUAL PATH.

THE WHOLE JOURNEY OF GETTING DETACHED FROM THE PARAMAATMA AND GOING THE WHOLE CIRCLE BACK INTO THE ORIGIN, IS ACTUALLY OF OUR SOUL (AATMA-WHICH IS A PART, ANSH OF THE PARAMAATMA), AND THIS PHYSICAL BODY GIVEN TO US BY ALMIGHTY IS ONLY AN UTENSIL TO HOLD OUR SOUL AND CARRY IT THROUGH SAFELY DURING THIS PART OF OUR JOURNEY.

BUT THIS PATH IS ARDOUS. SO ARDOUS THAT JUST IMAGINE THE DIFFICULTY A SUNRAY WOULD FACE REVERSING IT’S PATH AND TRY TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK INTO THE SUN FROM WHERE IT HAS ORIGINATED, OR, A RAINDROP TO GO BACK INTO THE CLOUD FROM WHERE IT IS ORIGINALLY FROM.

LET US CONCENTRATE ON THE RAINDROP, WHICH HAS TWO WAYS OF COMPLETING IT’S JOURNEY. EITHER IT TRAVELS THE NATURAL PATH OF THE RAIN-CYCLE, OR, IT BURNS ITSELF (EVAPORATES) AND JOINS AS VAPOUR TO IT’S MOTHER CLOUD, AND THUS SAVES ITSELF FROM THE BACK-BREAKING EXPERIENCE OF TRAVELLING THE WHOLE RAIN-CYCLE AND THE PAINFUL OBSTACLES IT MAY ENCOUNTER ON THE WAY.

SIMILARLY WE WHO HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH THIS HUMAN BIRTH-LIFE HAVE TWO OPTIONS :- EITHER WE MAKE OUR SOUL TRAVEL THE WHOLE GAMUT OF INNUMERABLE LIVES, LIFE AFTER LIFE AND ENCOUNTER THE OVERWHELMING SORROWS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH LIFE, OR, WE USE OUR PRESENT LIFE TO BURN OUR MAAN (MIND-FULL OF ALL THE SINS PERFORMED IN ALL THE PRECEDING LIVES), AND FREE OUR SOUL TO FLY BACK AND JOIN ITSELF WITH THE PARAMAATMA, THUS COMPLETING THE JOURNEY FOR WHICH IT HAD ORIGINALLY SET FORTH AFTER BEING DETACHED FROM THE SUPREME SOUL.

ALAS MOST OF US OUR LIVING OUR LIVES ONLY ON A PHYSICAL PLATFORM. WE ARE INTERESTED IN ONLY THOSE THINGS THAT WILL GIVE OUR PHYSICAL BODY THE MOST MATERIALISTIC COMFORT. WE ATTACH OURSLEVES TO ALL THESE SHINY MATERIALS AROUND US, SO MUCH SO THAT THEY BECOME THE REASON FOR ALL OUR SORROWS, BECAUSE WE CAN’T HANDLE THE PAIN ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING TO LOOSE THEM. FOR EXAMPLE WE ATTACH OURSELVES SO MUCH WITH OUR FAMILY (OUR BETTER HALF, KIDS). WE FOOL OTHERS TO FILL OUR COFFERS SO THAT OUR FAMILY CAN BE COMFORTABLE. BUT WE FORGET THAT ONE DAY DEATH IS GOING TO SNATCH US FROM OUR FAMILIES, AND WHEN THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS, WE ARE OVERWHELMED BY THIS SORROW OF LOSS ALL OUR LIVES.

WHY DON’T WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PHYSICAL BODY OF OURS IS GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND, AND ONLY THE SPIRIT IS GOING TO TRAVEL FURTHER ?
THEN WHY DO WE STILL LOOK FOR PHYSICAL COMFORT RATHER THAN SPENDING OUR LIVES IN PURSUIT OF SPIRITUAL COMFORT ?

HEREIN COMES THE IMPORTANCE OF GURUBANI. INFACT WE SHOULD CONSIDER OURSELVES THE LUCKIEST ONES ALIVE TO HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH THE BIRTH OF A Sikh, BECAUSE THE GIFT OF GURUBANI HANDED TO US ON A PLATTER, IF PARTAKEN WILL BE THE IDEAL FOOD FOR OUR SOUL TO TRAVEL THE SPIRITUAL PATH TOWARDS THE SUPREME SOUL.



HOW FAR BACK WE ARE LAGGING SPIRITUALLY :


ALL THROUGH OUR PHYSICAL LIFE PARMATMA (THE PARAM AATMA) IS WITH US (INSIDE US) AND WE JUST DO NOT STRIVE TO FEEL IT’S PRESENCE, WITH THE RESULT THAT IN THE AFTERLIFE WHEN OUR AATMA NEEDS THE PARAM AATMA MOST, THERE IS NO SUPPORT PROVIDED.

OUR MAAN IS NOTHING BUT A COLLECTION OF ALL THE PAAPS THAT HAVE ACCUMULATED GOING FROM ONE LIFE TO ANOTHER, AND IT IS THE CULPRIT WHICH HAS ENGULFED OUR AATMA, AND CUT OFF IT’S CONNECTION FROM THE PARAM AATMA.

CONSIDER EACH SINGLE UTTERANCE OF NAAM (SIMRAN) WHICH ACTUALLY IS BEEN RECEIVED BACK BY OUR EARS, AND THROUGH THEM IS ENTERING OUR INNER BEING.
CONSIDER EACH SUCH UTTERANCE AS ONE HIT SCORED ON OUR MAAN ,or, MIND, AND LET US ASSUME THAT ONE SUCH HIT IS KILLING ONE PAAP (AMONG COUNTLESS ACCUMULATING IN OUR MAAN AS IT GOES FROM ONE LIFE TO ANOTHER FOR WE DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY LIVES, AS KABEER SAYS “AISE GHAR HAM BAHUT BASAYE, JAB HUM RAAM GARABH SYUN AAYE”).

NOW ACCORDING TO THE CENTRAL THEME OF OUR RELIGION, THE MORE HITS OF NAAM YOU SCORE ON YOUR MAAN, THE MORE PURIFIED IT BECOMES, AND THE MORE YOUR MAAN GETS IMMUNED FROM DUKH, SANTAAP. THE BIGGEST DUKH IS TO BE BORN AGAIN AND AGAIN.

JUST IMAGINE HOW MANY SUCH HITS WE SHALL NEED TO OBLITERATE ALL THE PAAPS STORED IN OUR MAAN, UNTIL THE FINAL HIT WHEN “PRABH KE SIMRAN GARABH NA BASE” i.e. OUR MAAN IS DELETED AND OUR AATMA BECOMES PART OF THE PARAM AATMA (WHOSE “AANSH” IT WAS ORIGINALLY, AND FROM WHICH IT HAD BROKEN OFF), AND BREAKS OFF FROM THIS BIRTH-DEATH CIRCLE.

NOW WE SPEND OUR WHOLE LIFE SPEAKING,SPEAKING…. AND SPEAKING, AND NEVER HEAR TO WHAT WE SAY, WHEREAS THE ONE AND ONLY THING THAT MATCHES OUR FREQUENCY WITH THAT OF THE SUPREME LORD IS HEARING, HEARING…. AND HEARING. JUST THINK OF HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE DONE PATH, SIMRAN IN OUR LIVES TO DATE, AND JUST THINK OF HOW MANY TIMES OUR MAAN (THROUGH OUR EARS) HAS ACTUALLY HEARD THE RECITAL - NEGLIGIBLE.

WE ALSO SPEND OUR WHOLE LIFE RUNNING AFTER THINGS THAT ARE NEVER GOING TO BE OURS FOR EVER, AS THE SUPREME DUKH “DEATH” IS GOING TO INTERVENE, BUT STILL WE RUN, AND IN THE PROCESS KEEP COMMITING AND ACCUMULATING OUR BAG OF SINS. THE ONLY ASSET THAT IS GOING TO BE CARRIED OVER INTO THE AFTERLIFE IS THE AMOUNT OF FULL ALERT NAAM YOU HAVE RECITED IN YOUR PRESENT LIFE.

WE JUST DO NOT HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT THE MEANING OF OUR LIFE REALLY IS, AND THAT IS TO CONSTANTLY BE IMMERSED IN THE NAAM. “HAR UDDAM ME WOH UDDAM BHALA, HAR KA NAAM JAPE JIYO SADA”.




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A very beautiful exposition ,dear, Prithipal ji.




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Now, as far as what is "really real," please remember "What is the very first word of Siri Guru Granth Sahib?" (This is the very first word of Japji Sahib, also. It is the very first thing that Guru Nanak spoke as Guru.) It is a very beautiful word, and for our relative minds, it is also a great sticking point. This word is "Ek," which means "ONE." He said Ek Ong Kar, which means "All of the phenomena and manifestations which we experience, all that we have ever experienced and EVER will experience," ALL these manifestations come from ONE, infinite Source ("Ong")."

Infinity is universal, one and the same with itself. But it affects us relative human beings in various ways: the aspect of Infinity that produces or generates everything that manifests we call Ek Ong Kar. The same Infinity that holds the ultimate, Identity and non-dualistic meaning of all this is called Truth, or Sat Nam. Finally, the awareness aspect of Infinity that experiences and understands the ultimate wisdom of all this is called Wahe Guru ("Absolute Wisdom"). And, there is a little song that a Sikh once wrote which says:

"Ek Ong Kar is what you are,
"Sat Nam is what you'll be,
"And your Siri Wahe Guru,
"Is all you'll ever need say or do."

Realizing the meaning of that song, in one's own life, is the life of a Sikh, and it is the fulfillment of everything that humanity has been searching for, for aeons (millions, and millions, and millions of years, throughout the all the universes and worlds).


Hope Dear Prithipal singh ji, it shall be Of some help. Let us continue to make research. I shall shortly post the exposition of " om' that is so poerful word Of Hindus.


Ek Onkar [Onk]
The following are the main reources that may be used for carrying out further investigations in the matter.
Encyclopedia: SikhismI am giving below various links for Ik ong kar. One may refer to this in the light of discussion.It may take sometime before we reach the exact meaning of 'OngSikhism advocates the belief in one pantheistic God (Ek Onkar) who is omnipresent and has infinite qualities.Ek Onkaar - One God - There is only ONE God who has infinite qualities and names; S/He* is the same for all religions; God is Creator and Sustainer -All that you see around you is Gods Creation; S/He* is everywhere, and in everything; S/He is fearless and with..Stylised Ek Onkar Simple Ek Onkar Ek Onkar (also à©´, Ek Omkar, Ik Omkar and other variants) meaning one God is a central tenet of Sikh religious philosophy.http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Sikhism (10647 words)
info: Ek_OnkarEk Onkar is a combination of three letters: Ek - one, Om - the sacred letter for God, and the kar - which is a...Ek Onkar is the start of the Sikh Mool Mantra and the first phrase of the Sikh holy book, the Guru Granth Sahib.EK Onkar are the first two words of Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and also Mool Mantar.http://www.napoli-pizza.net/Ek_Onkar.html (630 words)
The Idea Of The Supreme Being (God) In Sikhism:Gateway to SikhismOnkar comes from the Upanishad and is an extended form of Om, which is the holiest of all names of God, In the Guru Granth Sahib Om is also used - once by Guru Nanak and twice by Guru Arjan Dev.Onkar is the Eternal Reality, above gods and goddesses and is holy and self-existent.EK Onkar here as elsewhere implies that Reality which is above and beyond all other existence.http://www.allaboutsikhs.com/articles/idea_of_the_supreme_being.htm (1708 words)
Spirituality, Sikhism, Key Beliefs of SikhismEk Onkar means there is only ONE God.The Onkar is derived from the Sanskrit word Om which consists of three syllable sounds representing the Hindu trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.EK Onkar are the first two words of Guru Granth Sahib and alsohttp://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_sikh-key-beliefs-of-Sikhism.htm (1296 words)
Welcome to The Institute of Sikh Studies-->PublicationsThe Guru Blassed Bhai Nand Lal and explained that this verse is the essences of the entire gurbani the rest of Guru Granth Sahib is its expostion.Mool Mantra's essence is "Ek Onkar Satgur Parsad," which repeated in Sri Guru Granth Sahib 523 times.Name of God as Onkar is also given in our ancient granths.http://www.sikhstudies.org/Periodicals.asp?TtlCod=962 (2164 words)
Hindutva Series : Hindu History - Sikhism The Khalsa Panth of Punjab"Ek Onkar" of the Keshadharis and "Omkar" of the HindusSikh spiritual leaders and priests use Saffron cloth for their turbans and dress as they consider the Saffron colour to have a religious significance though in the 1980s it had become a symbol of revivalism and bigotry (for the terrorists).One prominent symbol that meets the eye while looking at Gurudwara is the letter "Ek Onkar" (shown on the left) which is inscribed on Gurudwaras (it means "One God").http://hindutva.org/Sikhism.html (11748 words)
Welcome to The Institute of Sikh Studies-->PublicationsUpanishadas' philosophy tried to negate this view of Onkar, but the Hindu belief of polytheism never faded and was prevalent during the times of Guru NanakEk does not signify the essence or core of Oneness, rather it merely gives outward meanings of God.The absence of numeral 1 and other attributes of God, and the mentioning of personal name of Guru Nanak in the Mul Mantar would suggest that Guru Nanak produced a lame Mul Mantar implying that his contribution to Sikhism is negligible.http://www.sikhstudies.org/Periodicals.asp?TtlCod=728 (2894 words)
[No title]Sehas sianpa lakh hoeh ta ek na chalay nal.Warya na jawa ek var.Jo tudh bhave sai bhali kaar.In this pauri Baba Nanak enumerates the various paths that were practised by persons for attaining at one-ment and peace of mind; and shows their inefficacy-By mere thinking and intellectual reasoning true wisdom(the realization of the divine within) cannot be attained, though one goes on thinking millions of times.http://www.gururavidassny.com/htmls/downloads/jjs.html (7514 words)
RELIGION INFO - Sikh (Sikhism)Onkar is derived from the Sanskrit word AUM (or OM).AUM is a symbol (same as in the religion Hinduism) representing the Trinity of Brahma (Creator), Vishnu (Preserver) and Shiva (Destroyer), which are the three fundamental aspects of God (the Supreme Being).The first word (by Guru Nanak) of the SIRI Guru Granth SAHIB JI is "EK Onkar", pronounced "Ek Ong Kar" means "We are all ONE created by ONE Creator".http://www.religion-info.com/Sikhism.html (503 words)
Re: god's cults ,large and small - Spirituality Forumor "Onkar", to be chanted and meditated on.Ek Onkar symbol was apparently created by Guru Nanak, the founder> Ek Onkar symbol was apparently created by Guru Nanak, the founderhttp://www.spirituality-forum.com/showthread.php?t=58446&page=3 (886 words)
EK Onkar Scientific Approach India Self Realization Delhi Truth Mystery God Solved of Geeta based on Bhagwat Indian of ...EK Onkar Scientific Approach India Self Realization Delhi Truth Mystery God Solved of Geeta based on Bhagwat Indian of Life Towards Life EK Onkar Scientific Approach India Self Realization Delhi Truth Mystery God Solved of Geeta based on Bhagwat Indian of Life Towards Life“Ek ONKAR”, an Audio cassette based on Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Gurbani, I have taken only those Compositions which are based on 'Atma' because my search for Truth of life is 'Atma' Sri Bhagwat Gita is the main source of my re-searchI was of a religious bent of mind and a peace loving child from my early childhood, altogether different from my family.http://www.ekonkarseries.com (221 words)
400th Anniversary of the compilation of Sri Guru Granth SahibOnkar means the manifestation of EK in the creation to include all worlds, all humanity, and all human beings with one soul residing within themEk means the One Indivisible Virtual Reality that permeates through all creation and may be understood as the ONE SPIRIT remembered as Infinite (Wahe) Wisdom (Guru).He said this was included in his first revelation made after the rivulet Vaini meditation.http://www.sikhpoint.com/community/Articles/SGGS.php (938 words)
Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara (Bradford) Introduction to SikhismTo show it's importance, Ek Onkar is the first line at the head of all gurbani and forms the first line of the Mool Mantar which begins the Guru Granth Sahib Ji.Whilst Sikhs hold the Gurus in high regard they are not worshipped; Sikhs only worship one God "Ek Onkar".He said that there is one God and the name of God is Sat Nam (truth).http://www.bradfordgurdwara.com/gd0501_sikh_history.htm (716 words)
The Sikhism Home PageThe root of Onkar is traceable to the Hindu sacred syllable Om, also written as Aum.So Guru Nanak's revealed Scripture place numerical figure '1' before Onkar thus enhancing his firm conviction in the unity of God.By the large, Sikhs worship 'Waheguru' as God's name for constant remembrance by repetition aloud or Sotto Voce.http://www.sikhs.org/art1.htm (884 words)
Gurdwaras in the US MapEk Onkar translates as “God is One.” It is a commonly seen symbol in Sikh scriptures since Sikhism is a monotheistic religion.The symbol I used on this map is called an Ek Onkar, which is a Punjabi word from the Gurbani, the writings of the Guru Granth Sahib (holy book).After studying this map one can see the geographic patterns of gurdwaras in the US.http://mason.gmu.edu/~skaur4/gurdwara2.html (230 words)
SikhismSikhism is based on the teachings of the ten Gurus.Sikhs believe that that there is one God, who is known throughout the world by different people by many names.It is made up of two characters: The Punjabi character for the number 'one' and the Punjabi letter 'Urha' for 'Onkar' meaning 'God'http://homepages.uel.ac.uk/0682l/Sikhism.htm (165 words)
Welcome To Gurdwaras of PakistanChant long Ek Onkar with Wahe Guru Kaur Khalasa.http://www.gurdwaras.itgo.com/gop1.htm (82 words)
Personal Page of Sumeet DhillonEk Onkar: Ek Onkar is the most significant word used in the Sikh teachings.It allows foreigners to know that Sikhs are present and hospitability is close by.http://pages.poly.edu/~sdhill01/Sikhism.html (526 words)
MSN India - Astro & HoroscopesThe Ek Onkar symbol is an emblem of the Sikh religion, found on Gurudwaras.Ek Onkar means "God is one," and relates to the Sikh belief in the unity of God.Gift Items shall be delivered usually within 7 working days.Beautifully framed, these pieces of poetry in gold have long been a status symbol, are known to dispel negative energies and bring in positive and harmonizing influences.http://www.astroyogi.com/newmsn/astroshopping/diwaligifts/productpage.asp?catid=225 (107 words)

Gateway to Sikhism :Sikh Philosophy QuizGuru Arjan Dev Ji How many times complete Mool Mantar (Ik Onkar to Gur Prasad) appears in Guru Granth Sahib ?http://www.allaboutsikhs.com/youth/philosophy1.htm (485 words)
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Sacred Onkar: Gold Rakhi,Indian Gifts PortalOn the special day of Raksha Bandhan send some thing exclusive to your endearing bhaiya.Complimented with roli and chawal this is sent in an attractive gift pack.A marvelous ‘Ek Onkar’ rakhi in Swiss-made 24-carat gold plated foil, embellished with zari threads is all set to amaze your bhaiya.http://www.indiangiftsportal.com/product_info.php?products_id=sacred-onkar-gold-rakhi (79 words)


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Respected Pritpal_Singh Ji,

many thanks for the beautiful post.

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NOW WE SPEND OUR WHOLE LIFE SPEAKING,SPEAKING…. AND SPEAKING, AND NEVER HEAR TO WHAT WE SAY, WHEREAS THE ONE AND ONLY THING THAT MATCHES OUR FREQUENCY WITH THAT OF THE SUPREME LORD IS HEARING, HEARING…. AND HEARING. JUST THINK OF HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE DONE PATH, SIMRAN IN OUR LIVES TO DATE, AND JUST THINK OF HOW MANY TIMES OUR MAAN (THROUGH OUR EARS) HAS ACTUALLY HEARD THE RECITAL - NEGLIGIBLE.


so true, this is the major thing. we need to listen to Gurbani attentively and then follow what it is teaching us- LIVING THE TRUTH TRUTHFULLY-This is the real seva. Guru's Word has to become our way of life.

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Ong Meaning Expolred


Now, as far as what is "really real," please remember "What is the very first word of Siri Guru Granth Sahib?" (This is the very first word of Japji Sahib, also. It is the very first thing that Guru Nanak spoke as Guru.) It is a very beautiful word, and for our relative minds, it is also a great sticking point. This word is "Ek," which means "ONE." He said Ek Ong Kar, which means "All of the phenomena and manifestations which we experience, all that we have ever experienced and EVER will experience," ALL these manifestations come from ONE, infinite Source ("Ong")."

Infinity is universal, one and the same with itself. But it affects us relative human beings in various ways: the aspect of Infinity that produces or generates everything that manifests we call Ek Ong Kar. The same Infinity that holds the ultimate, Identity and non-dualistic meaning of all this is called Truth, or Sat Nam. Finally, the awareness aspect of Infinity that experiences and understands the ultimate wisdom of all this is called Wahe Guru ("Absolute Wisdom"). And, there is a little song that a Sikh once wrote which says:

"Ek Ong Kar is what you are,
"Sat Nam is what you'll be,
"And your Siri Wahe Guru,
"Is all you'll ever need say or do."

Realizing the meaning of that song, in one's own life, is the life of a Sikh, and it is the fulfillment of everything that humanity has been searching for, for aeons (millions, and millions, and millions of years, throughout the all the universes and worlds).


Hope Dear Prithipal singh ji, it shall be Of some help. Let us continue to make research. I shall shortly post the exposition of " om' that is so poerful word Of Hindus.


Ek Onkar [Onk]
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Encyclopedia: SikhismI am giving below various links for Ik ong kar. One may refer to this in the light of discussion.It may take sometime before we reach the exact meaning of 'OngSikhism advocates the belief in one pantheistic God (Ek Onkar) who is omnipresent and has infinite qualities.Ek Onkaar - One God - There is only ONE God who has infinite qualities and names; S/He* is the same for all religions; God is Creator and Sustainer -All that you see around you is Gods Creation; S/He* is everywhere, and in everything; S/He is fearless and with..Stylised Ek Onkar Simple Ek Onkar Ek Onkar (also à©´, Ek Omkar, Ik Omkar and other variants) meaning one God is a central tenet of Sikh religious philosophy.http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Sikhism (10647 words)
info: Ek_OnkarEk Onkar is a combination of three letters: Ek - one, Om - the sacred letter for God, and the kar - which is a...Ek Onkar is the start of the Sikh Mool Mantra and the first phrase of the Sikh holy book, the Guru Granth Sahib.EK Onkar are the first two words of Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and also Mool Mantar.http://www.napoli-pizza.net/Ek_Onkar.html (630 words)
The Idea Of The Supreme Being (God) In Sikhism:Gateway to SikhismOnkar comes from the Upanishad and is an extended form of Om, which is the holiest of all names of God, In the Guru Granth Sahib Om is also used - once by Guru Nanak and twice by Guru Arjan Dev.Onkar is the Eternal Reality, above gods and goddesses and is holy and self-existent.EK Onkar here as elsewhere implies that Reality which is above and beyond all other existence.http://www.allaboutsikhs.com/articles/idea_of_the_supreme_being.htm (1708 words)
Spirituality, Sikhism, Key Beliefs of SikhismEk Onkar means there is only ONE God.The Onkar is derived from the Sanskrit word Om which consists of three syllable sounds representing the Hindu trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.EK Onkar are the first two words of Guru Granth Sahib and alsohttp://1stholistic.com/prayer/hol_sikh-key-beliefs-of-Sikhism.htm (1296 words)
Welcome to The Institute of Sikh Studies-->PublicationsThe Guru Blassed Bhai Nand Lal and explained that this verse is the essences of the entire gurbani the rest of Guru Granth Sahib is its expostion.Mool Mantra's essence is "Ek Onkar Satgur Parsad," which repeated in Sri Guru Granth Sahib 523 times.Name of God as Onkar is also given in our ancient granths.http://www.sikhstudies.org/Periodicals.asp?TtlCod=962 (2164 words)
Hindutva Series : Hindu History - Sikhism The Khalsa Panth of Punjab"Ek Onkar" of the Keshadharis and "Omkar" of the HindusSikh spiritual leaders and priests use Saffron cloth for their turbans and dress as they consider the Saffron colour to have a religious significance though in the 1980s it had become a symbol of revivalism and bigotry (for the terrorists).One prominent symbol that meets the eye while looking at Gurudwara is the letter "Ek Onkar" (shown on the left) which is inscribed on Gurudwaras (it means "One God").http://hindutva.org/Sikhism.html (11748 words)
Welcome to The Institute of Sikh Studies-->PublicationsUpanishadas' philosophy tried to negate this view of Onkar, but the Hindu belief of polytheism never faded and was prevalent during the times of Guru NanakEk does not signify the essence or core of Oneness, rather it merely gives outward meanings of God.The absence of numeral 1 and other attributes of God, and the mentioning of personal name of Guru Nanak in the Mul Mantar would suggest that Guru Nanak produced a lame Mul Mantar implying that his contribution to Sikhism is negligible.http://www.sikhstudies.org/Periodicals.asp?TtlCod=728 (2894 words)
[No title]Sehas sianpa lakh hoeh ta ek na chalay nal.Warya na jawa ek var.Jo tudh bhave sai bhali kaar.In this pauri Baba Nanak enumerates the various paths that were practised by persons for attaining at one-ment and peace of mind; and shows their inefficacy-By mere thinking and intellectual reasoning true wisdom(the realization of the divine within) cannot be attained, though one goes on thinking millions of times.http://www.gururavidassny.com/htmls/downloads/jjs.html (7514 words)
RELIGION INFO - Sikh (Sikhism)Onkar is derived from the Sanskrit word AUM (or OM).AUM is a symbol (same as in the religion Hinduism) representing the Trinity of Brahma (Creator), Vishnu (Preserver) and Shiva (Destroyer), which are the three fundamental aspects of God (the Supreme Being).The first word (by Guru Nanak) of the SIRI Guru Granth SAHIB JI is "EK Onkar", pronounced "Ek Ong Kar" means "We are all ONE created by ONE Creator".http://www.religion-info.com/Sikhism.html (503 words)
Re: god's cults ,large and small - Spirituality Forumor "Onkar", to be chanted and meditated on.Ek Onkar symbol was apparently created by Guru Nanak, the founder> Ek Onkar symbol was apparently created by Guru Nanak, the founderhttp://www.spirituality-forum.com/showthread.php?t=58446&page=3 (886 words)
EK Onkar Scientific Approach India Self Realization Delhi Truth Mystery God Solved of Geeta based on Bhagwat Indian of ...EK Onkar Scientific Approach India Self Realization Delhi Truth Mystery God Solved of Geeta based on Bhagwat Indian of Life Towards Life EK Onkar Scientific Approach India Self Realization Delhi Truth Mystery God Solved of Geeta based on Bhagwat Indian of Life Towards Life“Ek ONKAR”, an Audio cassette based on Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Gurbani, I have taken only those Compositions which are based on 'Atma' because my search for Truth of life is 'Atma' Sri Bhagwat Gita is the main source of my re-searchI was of a religious bent of mind and a peace loving child from my early childhood, altogether different from my family.http://www.ekonkarseries.com (221 words)
400th Anniversary of the compilation of Sri Guru Granth SahibOnkar means the manifestation of EK in the creation to include all worlds, all humanity, and all human beings with one soul residing within themEk means the One Indivisible Virtual Reality that permeates through all creation and may be understood as the ONE SPIRIT remembered as Infinite (Wahe) Wisdom (Guru).He said this was included in his first revelation made after the rivulet Vaini meditation.http://www.sikhpoint.com/community/Articl