Hukam vs. "Tarot" methods

namjiwankaur · #1 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2012, 09:16 AM

Sat Nam

I love the Daily Hukam. From what I understand, the Sri Guru Granth Sahib is opened to a random page and it becomes the Guru's message for the day.

Is it true that Sikhs also do this to get help with certain questions they have about things in their lives? How is this done? Is there a special prayer to say before or after or to reflect on the hukam after receiving it?
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Do you think the Cyber Hukam are valid ways of doing this?

I also wonder if Sikhs believe this is a method of divining or something else? I made the title of the thread "hukam" vs. "tarot" because many other methods exist where people use a holy book to commune with the Divine. Many of these people would say they are doing the same thing Sikhs do with Hukam. How do they differ?

BhagatSingh · #2 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2012, 12:24 PM

Cyber hukam lacks that communal aspect of Hukamnama. I think this is the most important part of the larger ritual, in which hukamnama is read out.
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How do they use a holy book to commune with the divine?

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #3 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2012, 14:14 PM

The HUKM is not divining..its the Guru Speaking directly and each person who listens "interprets" accordingly...one who is sad at the passing of his dad..is comforted..one who just passed his exams is elated..one who is going for an interview for a job is "confident..inspired"...The SHABAD is the SAME...the results on the sangat are different..

Kanwaljit Singh · #4 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2012, 21:23 PM

It's like the phrase which makes happy sad or the sad happy.
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THIS TOO SHALL PASS.

It brings balance to anyone in any state of mind.

namjiwankaur · #5 (**permalink**) 24-Sep-2012, 03:17 AM

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Cyber hukam lacks that communal aspect of Hukamnama. I think this is the most important part of the larger ritual, in which hukamnama is read out.

Bhagat ji, could you tell me more about how hukam is used by individuals and also in community?

Thank you, brother.
Nam Jiwan

Ambarsaria · #6 (**permalink**) 24-Sep-2012, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by namjiwankaur

Bhagat ji, could you tell me more about how hukam is used by individuals and also in community?

Thank you, brother.
Nam Jiwan

Namjiwankaur ji my thoughts and I am sure Bhagat Singh ji will chime in as well as you requested.

Hukam in Sikhism is a daily thought or message of the day (in reverence many will also call it as a directive to a Sikh) to learn from and work with. It does not mean that previous day(s) Hukams have lapsed. It is a technique to continuously and diligently improve self in actions each day and not just listen and dissect a Shabad/hymn.

Sat Sri Akal.

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #7 (**permalink**) 24-Sep-2012, 04:31 AM

and HUKM is certainly as far away from tarot etc as our Galaxy is from the Andromeda galaxy...trillion zillion light years away....the two words shouldnt even be on the same page...or book

namjiwankaur · #8 (**permalink**) 24-Sep-2012, 05:09 AM

Gyani ji

Tarot is just a word and is only a deck of cards. You define it by your own beliefs about it.

I know some say tarot can "predict the future". I am suspicious of that, but if someone wants to believe they are reading about the future with a deck of cards, then so be it.

Sufi Book of Life is about the 99 Names of God and how to meditate with them. The website has an "online oracle" feature which is meant to help people grow spiritually and to encourage a deeper understanding of the 99 Names of God.

Here is the link for anyone interested: http://sufibookoflife.com/oracle.html

Another way to do this with the Sufi Book of Life is to open it up to a certain page. Now you may see why I asked the question.

I am curious to know how a Sikh would view opening up the Sufi Book of Life to a random page in order to reflect on that Divine Name. Is it dangerous? Is it more like reading tarot cards or hukam?

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Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh

and HUKM is certainly as far away from tarot etc as our Galaxy is from the Andromeda galaxy...trillion zillion light years away....the two words shouldnt even be on the same page...or book

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #9 (**permalink**) 24-Sep-2012, 06:24 AM

namjiwan ji..

IF its about "REFLECTION"...then i guess theres a simialrity...becasue the HUKM is also meant to be relfected upon and MORE IMPORTANTLY....ACTED UPON.