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Old 13-Jun-2012, 10:05 AM
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Gurfateh!

My understanding is that the hukamnama is the 'thought for the day' for Sikhs. The daily guidance and inspiration. A passage to contemplate and imbibe.

However, when there are hukamnamas issued daily from Harmandir Sahib, from one's own community Gurdwara, and if one finds their own in the morning, which one do you contemplate?
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Sometimes I like to write down the Hukamnama from my Gurdwara on Sunday and I think of it as a bit of a hukamnama for the whole week since that's the only time I'm able to visit.

What do you think?
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Old 13-Jun-2012, 10:44 AM
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Re: Too many hukamnamas!

"Auj da Hukamnama" stands for Order of the Day from our Guru Sahib. While whole of the Gurbani is HIS order for us as how we can change our life styles for the BEST.
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It could be from any source but the main point is to think over and over it and try to change our life style as per HIS HUKAM. All his SHABADS as in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji jee are for betterment of our lives only so that we can easily be with HIM one day.
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Re: Too many hukamnamas!

The GURU is EVERYWHERE...Satgur Mera nit navaan....He is RENEWED Daily...One to One...for a Sikh and His Guru its always ONE ON ONE...no need to worry about too mnay or too much...there can never be Too much of a GOOD THING..and the Guru is a GOOD thing ...in fact it would be Extremely Challenging to even IMPLEMENT FULLY in our daily Life..the Complete Mool mantar...what else to say about the entire Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.....SATNAAM..His Name is TRUTH..can we IMPLEMENT TRUTH the SOLE TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH daily 24/7 for a START...i have been trying for the past 62 years..and its difficult...a tiny weeny UNTRUTH seems just waiting to gate crash my life..always..everywhere i go...I open my door..neighbor says Good Morning..I garee although its definitely NOT a "Good Morning" for me...I meet a salesman at the door..i tell him i dont have time..although i have LOTS of it and could listen to him for hours selling me his Adventists Day Bible....i answer the phone....24/7 UNTRUTHS dogging my heels at each step...and I am a HYPOCRITE IF i claim i am SATNAAM all the way...and THIS is just the BEGINNNG...1429 pages to go before I sleep for ever....BHOG Paath !!
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Re: Too many hukamnamas!

and let us not forget the correct answer to the question "does my bottom look big in this"..................
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Re: Too many hukamnamas!

... because, if you say the wrong answer, YOU'D BETTER DUCK!!
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Or, start saying Kirtan Sohila!
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Old 13-Jun-2012, 18:45 PM
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Re: Too many hukamnamas!

Harry Bhaji, there is no right answer. Much like there is no spoon.

And my bum ALWAYS looks big in this. And yes I will hit you.
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Old 13-Jun-2012, 20:35 PM
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Re: Too many hukamnamas!

Actually this does lead on to an interesting subject, the truth.

I have always tried to tell the truth, I find it makes for much less pain later, however, I can be blunt and tactless, and as for small talk, I just cannot do it.

However, lately, I have been thinking that the truth does not need to be that painful, for instance, does my bum look big in this, well, its a relative question, the truth could be that a bum could look big no matter what was being worn, so the answer should be 'no', ie, it does not look big in this, it looks big no matter what,
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I think only a fool (raises hand) would try and tell the whole truth all the time with no regard for consequences, but we must remember we were gifted a brain, nothing is black or white, we must be objective, thoughtful, show discretion, intelligence in our thinking.
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Re: Too many hukamnamas!

Ishna Bhain ji great question. Some comments below.

ਹੁਕਮਨਾਮਾ ---- Hukamnama
ਹੁਕਮ--- Direction, Guidance, Order
ਨਾਮਾ --- Of “ਨਾਮ”
- Understanding of the creator, understanding of the creation of the creator


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Gurfateh!
My understanding is that the hukamnama is the 'thought for the day' for Sikhs. The daily guidance and inspiration. A passage to contemplate and imbibe.
One really has to think of it beyond thought for the day. Thoughts come and go. Somehow one has to make it part of better living as a tool not to remember the words but actions taken based on the message.

Let us look at a practical example. Many people have gone to Harmandir Sahib for reading or listening to Hukamnama or done so online. If one were to ask these to repeat the messages of all they have read, can they do so? The answer for myself at least is unquestionably "NO". So what was the sustained effect of the Hukamnama. Perhaps little unless it became almost an unconsciously embedded way of thinking and living.

Can you have too much of wisdom in one day. Perhaps if you cannot act on all that is in the wisdom. For me the messages in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in the Hukams are pretty straightforward and much aligned with good thinking and good living. These can be perhaps used to do a bit of fine tuning as applicable and one can move on to the next one.

Pat yourself on the back if your thinking and living already coincides with a Hukamnama
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However, when there are hukamnamas issued daily from Harmandir Sahib, from one's own community Gurdwara, and if one finds their own in the morning, which one do you contemplate?
All that you can find the time to act on rather than contemplate on. It is better to act and embed within self rather than just contemplate. If doing one takes all the time don't worry about it. There is much wisdom and with access through online resources you can pace yourself.

Sometimes the resources of time or otherwise we find ourselves limited in. Guru ji (our teacher) won't be upset and the creator is far too benevolent to be offended

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Sometimes I like to write down the Hukamnama from my Gurdwara on Sunday and I think of it as a bit of a hukamnama for the whole week since that's the only time I'm able to visit.

What do you think?
In the truest of sense, the Hukamnama is for life unless we are just providing lip service to the concept. It is not for a day, a week or a month. It is for all times through learning the message and living accordingly for the rest of our lives.

So with every Hukamnama we should seek a positive change, an improvement and so on in our lives.

Sat Sri Akal.

PS: Some further thoughts on the meaning of the word.

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ਹੁਕਮਨਾਮਾ ---- Hukamnama
ਹੁਕਮ--- Direction, Guidance, Order

ਨਾਮਾ --- Of “ਨਾਮ”
- Understanding of the creator, understanding of the creation of the creator
Most usage of Hukam in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji,

ਹੁਕਮੁ --- Of ਹੁਕਮ

ਹੁਕਮੈ --- In consonance with ਹੁਕਮ

ਹੁਕਮੀ --- By ਹੁਕਮ

ਹੁਕਮਿ --- In ਹੁਕਮ
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