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Guru Nanak's last name was ji!
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Guru Nanak's last name was ji!
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Perhaps we need to watch for spam accompalices. I was watching and saw Kamala ji and Prakash.S.Bagga ji login at the same time even though one claims to be in India and other in Canada with 10+ hours time difference and too inappropriate for someone to be logged in at just before 4am in Canada when it is 2PM in India.

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Re: What was Sri Guru Nanak dev ji's last name?

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Kamala ji what is the point of this question? His last name was Bedi but why do you ask?
The thread will be closed down if you don't explain.

BEDI, a subcaste of the Khatris, Prakritized form of the Sanskrit kstriya which is one of the four caste groups into which the Hindu society is divided. The Khatris are mainly Hindus though there is among them a Sikh element which is small in number but important historically.There are no Muhammadans in the caste because a Khatri after conversion into Islam ceases to be a Khatri and becomes a Khoja. The Khatris are further divided into four subgroups Bahri, Khukhrain, Bunjahi and Sarin. Bahris have twelve castes, Khukhrain eight, Bunjahi fiftytwo and Sarins twenty.
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In Sikhism, the Bedi caste became preeminent because of the birth into it of Guru Nanak, founder of the faith.Although the caste acquired sacred character which is enjoyed not only by the descendants of Guru Nanak but by all those born into this caste group, yet this inherited sanctity has not altered the social status of the people within the caste.A legend narrated in Bachitra Natak by Guru Gobind Singh refers to the Pauranic division of the Ksatriyas into three branchesSolar, Lunar and Agnikula (Fire race). According to this tradition, the Bedis belong to the Solar race and are descendants of Kusa, the twin brother of Lava and son of Lord Rama. Owing to a misunderstanding, the descendants of Kusa and Lava fought amongst themselves.
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In this fight, the descendants of Kusa were defeated and they rehabilitated themselves at Kashi (Varanasi) where they studied the Vedas and thus came to be called Vedis: in Punjabi V often turns phonetically into a `b*. Vedis became Bedis.Bedis are mostly concentrated in Dera Baba Nanak, in Gurdaspur district, in the Punjab.Among Sikhs, the Bedi lineage continued after Guru Nanak through his younger son Baba Lakhmi Das. Lakhmi Das`s son Dharam Das settled down at Dera Baba Nanak. Two other important centres of Bedis in the Punjab were at Una, Hoshiarpur district, and Kallar, Rawalpindi district.

Two of the charismatic personalities of later period in the line were Sahib Singh Bedi (1756-1834), a contemporary of Maharaja Ranjit Singh and Baba Sir Khem Singh Bedi (1832-1905), one of the founders of the Singh Sabha movement in the seventies of the twentieth century.

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1. Rose, H.A., A G/ossary of the Castes and Tribes of the Punjab and North-West Province. Patiala, 1970
2. Nara, Ishar Singh, RajaJogi arthatJivan Itihas Sri Baba Sahib Singh ji Bedi. Delhi, n.d.
3. Sobha Ram, Bhai, Gur-bilas Baba Sahib Singh Bedi. Patiala, 1988
http://www.thesikhencyclopedia.com/a...d-artists/bedi
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Baba SIR Khem Singh bedi insited on claiming himslef GURU..and wanted special seating arrangements in Gurdwaras (Special daree/carpet and Gadella round pillow etc ). The SIR title is self explanatory...he was a British tout.
The Singh Sabha Movement and subsequent SRM in which a SPECIFIC Para was put in stating: ALL seated in the Guru darbar shall be EQUALLY seated. NO ONE shall have or demand any special darees/ gadellas etc while in the Darbar of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. THIS Proviso was added in Specially due to baba Khem Singh bedi.
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He had "inserted" himself into the emerging Singh sabha Movement as a British Agent but was soon seen for what he was...The British saw the emerging Singh sabha Mobement and Gurdwara sudhaar movement was seen as an ENEMY of the STATE by the British and they wnated their agents inside it to control it....
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The Bachitar natak author..sees the GURU ANGAD and GURU AMARDASS Ji as very INCONVENIENT to his tale....Hence he does mention Guru nanak Ji and the Bedis..then JUMPS STRAIGHT to the SODHIS from Guru ramdass Ji !!! There is absolutley no mention of Guru Angad ji and Guru Amardass Ji in this BN tale...supposedly written by GURU GOBIND SINGH JI !!! The reason is Guru Angad Ji and Guru Amardass Ji are of a Diffenrent tribal Group...and as such highly inconveneint additions to the lineage...
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Two of the charismatic personalities of later period in the line were Sahib Singh Bedi (1756-1834), a contemporary of Maharaja Ranjit Singh and Baba Sir Khem Singh Bedi (1832-1905), one of the founders of the Singh Sabha movement in the seventies of the twentieth century.
Bhagat Singh veer ji read the posts of Gyani Jarnail Singh ji above.

So indirectly your material is mis-leading again. There were touts then and there are far too many touts now of interest anti-Sikh. It brings many benefits to such people personal, fame, positions, access to high officials and so on.

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Unfortunately many at spn too with some well-camouflaged and some so ignorantly naked with a prime motive to show Sikhs are just Hindus.
We just need to be vigilant and not to become one by self or be so trapped with their projected sincerity in asking questions and translating Gurbani with RAMu, SHAMu; Sanskrit Grammar, and so on. These people simply are attacking Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji directly and indirectly, our last Guru ji in the guise of discourse.

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