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Do Sikhs use prayer beads?

Are there websites that are most popular amongst liberal Sikhs and others that are more popular amongst more conservative Sikhs?
Prayer beads encourage the use of empty chanting and counting which doesn't help. Sikhi is about learning, understanding and applying the teachings to your life. One of my Hindu friends uses her mala to count the number of times she chants certain names. Her rule is she has to go through the beads of the mala twice a day and will often do that even when in comversation with others just to fill the quota. That to me is ritualism so guess it depends on how and why you are using the mala.

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Thank you soooooo much for all you did to help me with pronouncing this word. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into it. I'm going to need a little time I think to follow along so I catch the word more clearly. But it appears to sound something like "jee-yo-tee".

The website itself is awesome. I like how they present the Guru Granth Sahib .

You are so kind to take the time to help me as much as you are. I can't thank you enough.

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Per your question on the correct pronunciaton of "jyote" - Here we go

Find this passage from the prayer Sukhmani Sahib on Ang 278. You will see it is part of a group marked as line "4" and is about half way down the page.

Jothee and Jhot are two grammatical form of the same word. (Keep in mind that jyote is a transliteration and is the same thing as jothee)


Link http://www.searchgurbani.com/guru_granth_sahib/ang/278


ਤਿਉ ਜੋਤੀ ਸੰਗਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਮਾਨਾ ॥

thio jothee sang joth samaanaa ||

तिउ जोती संगि जोति समाना ॥

his light blends into the Light.

Next find the little audio player at the top of the page. Click to start and listen along with reading the shabad, and at approximate 28 or 29 seconds you will hear how jothee and joth are pronounced.
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Today I can't stop myself to say that I am so lucky that I join SPN, where I have found so many very good guides,friends etc... etc... etc...where my soul get dose of life. Since I join the SPN I got a lot of knowledge about sikhism and other stuff. I am learning everyday with SPN .I felt like I am in my family.I really love to learn about Bani and spiritual personalties. I am feeling very sorry that I don't have more words to describe it that how lucky I am feeling right now.
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@spnadmin: Awesome videos! Thank you, as always, for going so much out of your way to help me! I am female, btw. I'm looking forward to trying these out.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/new-to-sikhism/33259-questions-from-jasnoor.html

I wonder if the longer I work on tieing the turban, the more my arms will co-operate. It has been that way with my back. I just keep things moving and it seems the arthritis doesn't act up as much then. So I will see the glass as half-full and I will look forward to the flexibility that comes with Divine Grace from that.
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@MaiHarinderKaur Thank you for such a detailed response. I am deeply inspired by your "3 year experiment" and your current one of not using God to define the Divine. I soooo relate to that. Titles like "God" and "Lord" tend to put me in a stagnant place rather than a dynamic and thriving relationship with the Divine. In America, God is like a cliche to me. Its been overused and it has lost its Truth.
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I have had visions of Mother so it is part of my relationship to refer to Her as Mother. I don't think it means I view the Divine in a limited way though. It is One Aspect of Divine Being that has offered Itself to me. Does that make sense? I don't think the Divine can be defined by gender for it is beyond gender, but just as I think the Divine is not confined or limited by gender, She/He/It seems capable of All Possible Expressions of Itself...even as Divine Mother and Divine Father.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=33259

And often when I use She instead of He, it is to clarify for myself that She/He/It is not stating "He" is preferable to "She" because that is the result of patriarchy. Some say "He" is the "royal pronoun". Well, that is forcing the Divine into a gender role as King when the Divine is just as capable of the equal gender role of Queen.

But I think I get too attached to "equal rights" if you know what I mean.

I am going to PM you about something in a few minutes, according to Divine Grace. And 2 thumbs up for icecream and ginger tea!!!!
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Yes! What a blessing it is! I came here because I finally decided to find out why Sikhism gets top result as I take the selectsmart test now and then. What I have explored over the years shows it as a beautiful path to the Divine. Still I was only skimming the surface and I see beneath the basics is a very precious beauty, beyond description.

I think that maybe that beauty only comes with being part of the Sikh community. And I feel I have been blessed in very profound ways since joining this forum.

I like that being Sikh is more about walking the path than stopping at a certain place and saying we have arrived. And I like the fact that the path doesn't exclude...it is a constant invitation to all. Not as a way of evangelism, but as embracing the Unity found in our diversity for even that Diversity is a part of the Divine.

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Thanks Jasnoor ji I appreciate your thoughts. These are not only your questions, we are all learning too. Since I have join the SPN I personally learned a lot, many things in our daily lives we never realized that we are making mistakes because lack of knowledge or we don't have rahat maryada handy or we didn't think of it. Many simple thing we can correct without any effort and cost. When I correct myself I personally feel great happiness.
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I must thank you also. The lesson learned for me today is that

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I like that being Sikh is more about walking the path than stopping at a certain place and saying we have arrived. And I like the fact that the path doesn't exclude...it is a constant invitation to all. Not as a way of evangelism, but as embracing the Unity found in our diversity for even that Diversity is a part of the Divine.
And I hope it is always in my mind as I take the next step.
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Hi. I came across the fact that the founder of the Sikh faith, Guru Nanek Dev Ji is often portrayed holding prayer beads. Were they symbolic then since the use of prayer beads is discouraged? I'm confused.
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