Sardar Dating Hindu Girl

HGNIS · #1 (**permalink**) 27-Jan-2012, 13:22 PM

I am a 23 year old Sardar and I am currently dating a Hindu girl. I was born and raised in America, and come from a Jatt family who is moderately religious (no drinking, keep kesh, go to Gurdwara on Sundays but my parents are not Amritdhari and have never pushed me to be Amritdhari either. They would be okay with me trimming and drinking moderately and let me find my own path as I grew up rather than forcing me to be religious).

Anyway, I noticed many people on this forum have been in or are in inter-faith relationships and was wondering how to ease my way into telling my parents about this. I do see myself marrying this girl because she is an amazing human being. She is a strong, intelligent, independent woman who loves her family and friends, has accepted me for who I am and loves me for being a Sardar. She appreciates me being a Sikh, loves that I wear a Pagg and I feel she makes me a better Sikh by supporting me and encouraging me to be a better human being by volunteering and pursuing my goals in a way I don't think I would have had I been single. We have been together for close to 2 years now and I am absolutely blessed to have her in my life.
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So...any advice on how to make this work and how to move forward with this relationship? We have already begun discussing the future, and I have expressed to her that it is important to me that my kids be raised Sardar because that is incredibly important to me. She said she is more than fine with that and understands why it is important to me, as I have talked to her for hours about what kesh means to me coming from a Sikh family and the things my ancestors and family has been through, and how it has been a defining thing in my life that I want to pass on to my child.

I should clarify, her parents are Hindu and she is more agnostic than anything. She doesn't go to the Mandir very often (maybe 4 or 5 times a year for family events) and believes in a God but doesn't find resonance with many Hindu beliefs (caste system and treatment of women). She has expressed that she may go to Gurudwara with her friend (who is a Sikh) more often to learn more about Sikhi. I would never pressure or even hint for her to convert because I don't think that is in line with SIkhi. A person should want to be a Sikh and its not a matter of converting, but truly finding the Sikh philosophy applicable to your life. Still, she has hinted more than once that she finds Sikhi to be a beautiful path and that she might explore it further.

What are some things I should be aware of before we go further and what are some conversations we should have as this relationship gets more involved?

As of now, my parents have an idea that I have a girlfriend but have never pushed the topic. Also, they would prefer I marry a Punjabi, Jatt, Sikh girl from America who is well educated, etc etc. So I guess she meets all the criteria of being a Punjabi girl who is well educated and loving but falls short of the Jatti/Sikh aspect. Still, I know they would be accepting if I introduced her to them because they know there really isn't much they can do but accept my decision and trust that I am making a good decision.

Thanks in advance.

harry haller · #2 (**permalink**) 27-Jan-2012, 13:30 PM

HGNISji

There is no problem here, she sounds wonderful, you sound wonderful, talk to your parents, let them help you with the 'logistics', they sound enlightened enough to be appreciate your judgement, and you sound enlightened enough to make a good one,
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Your post shows you both in a good light, there really is no problem here, your parents love you, I am sure they will support you, just be truthful and honest

Kamala · #3 (**permalink**) 27-Jan-2012, 21:11 PM

I don't think your parents would approve, it also depends on what kind of a area her family decsends from. Even though Sikhism rejects the caste system, most SIkhs do follow it.. as in they wouldn't let their jatt boy marry a chamar girl or a cheer... no offense.

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #4 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2012, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamala

I don't think your parents would approve, it also depends on what kind of a area her family decsends from. Even though Sikhism rejects the caste system, most SIkhs do follow it.. as in they wouldn't let their jatt boy marry a chamar girl or a cheer... no offense.

I think he said "Hindu"....not chamaar or cheer..whatever....how did you guess ?? is being "Hindu" automatically chmaar ?? Would a Chmaar Hindu be welcome in a Hindu mandir anyway ?? (she goes to amndir 4 times a year according to above post and shes also a ganostic meaning she doesnt beleive in all that mandir stuff at alll..so shes just about as much Hidnu a s he is Sikh..similar type. I think they will get along just fine and the parents too will accept her just as she is...she fits in nicely into their world...

HGNIS · #5 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamala

I don't think your parents would approve, it also depends on what kind of a area her family decsends from. Even though Sikhism rejects the caste system, most SIkhs do follow it.. as in they wouldn't let their jatt boy marry a chamar girl or a cheer... no offense.

She isn't a chamar or cheer. I am not sure how you made that leap.

Kamala · #6 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2012, 22:59 PM

I know she isn't a chamar, my point was that it is an example, you guys look at things to literally. I admit, I should have been more specific.

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #7 (**permalink**) 29-Jan-2012, 09:28 AM

After the staged Vienna incident and subsequent "lightning strike fast" riots in Punjab ( which reek badly of pre - prepared pre-planned agenda becasue the perperators in Punjab knew of the vienna indient even before the police in vienna could do a preliminary investigation and went on a rampage to dammage PUBLIC PROPERTY and SIKH Buisnesses/shops/cars etc)..and subsequent U-Tube Video propoganda war of sorts to make the Jatts HATE the Chamaars..and thus Artificially CREATE a DIVIDE between the two peaceful communities in Punjab and POISON the atmosphere..its normal to get the "feelers up" when a LEAP is made from Hindu to Chamaar...things are LITERALLY TAKEN becasue thats whats it is...the Agenda to divide the chamaars form the jatts is still very much active. why pick on "chamaar girl" when the Hindus have a THOUSAND and one castes...(incidentally there are anti-chamaar videos on utube at a thousand to one than there are say anti-brahmin videos or anti-khatree videos..)....no offense meant or taken...