Sign Up |  Live StatsLive Stats    Articles 35,346| Comments 159,813| Members 17,821, Newest cdotkhn| Online 261
Home Contact
 (Forgotten?): 
    Sikhism

   
                                                                     Your Banner Here!    

Sikh Philosophy Network » Members Lounge » Relationships » Love & Marriage » Help! Im a White British Guy with a Sikh Girlfriend

Help! Im a White British Guy with a Sikh Girlfriend

Our Donation Goal : Why Donate? : Donate Today! : Donate Anonymously (ਗੁਪਤ) : Our Family of Supporters
Goal this month: 400 USD, Received: 35 USD (9%)
Please Donate...
Related Topics...
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sikh Man, English Girlfriend, Need Advice About My Family ecpcsb Love & Marriage 3 28-Nov-2011 18:02 PM
Sikh to be first non-white member of British National Party Sikh royalist Politics 12 26-Feb-2010 10:16 AM
White Sikhs, White Clothes? svea00 Sects/Groups/Cults 13 20-Feb-2009 20:30 PM
British Sikh singer is a huge success in mainstream British charts Neutral Singh Sikh News 5 06-Nov-2004 00:28 AM


Tags
british, girlfriend, guy, non sikh, parent, relationship or marriage, sikh, sikh girl white guy, white, white boyfriend
Reply Post New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-Jan-2012, 09:07 AM
phil606's Avatar phil606 phil606 is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 7th, 2012
Age: 21
Posts: 7
phil606 is an unknown quantity at this point
   
Adherent: My own
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Unhappy Help! Im a White British Guy with a Sikh Girlfriend

  Donate Today!   Email to Friend  Tell a Friend   Show Printable Version  Print   Contact sikhphilosophy.net Administraion for any Suggestions, Ideas, Feedback.  Feedback  

Register to Remove Advertisements
Okay so first of all i want to say i hope i don't offend anyone with this post, that's not why i'm here.

My story:
Im a 20 year old white british guy, my girlfriend is a 17 year old sikh.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/love-and-marriage/37843-im-white-british-guy-sikh-girlfriend.html
We have been going out for over a year now and her familiy do not know i exist, I am madly in love with her and her with me. Im willing to spend the rest of my life with this girl. We both agree we are perfect for each other. The only problem is, she's worried of what her family will do if she tells them.
My family love her, they have offered for her to live with us if anything really bad does happen. Her family have found her a match and she should be getting engaged in the next few month. She is going to go along with it because she is so worried that her parents will hate her.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843

So, My question to you is:
I know there is no easy way for her to tell her family. Please, I am willing to marry this girl and spend the rest of my life with her, could somebody tell me the best way she could inform her parents so that they understand she is happy with me and so they may accept her being happy with someone who isnt sikh.

This is killing me inside and I will be absolutely devostated to the point of going numb if I can't be with her.

So please, somebody help me :'(

Thankyou in advance

Phil



 
Do share your immediate thoughts or reactions on this issue? We value your views! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views with us.. Gurfateh!
Reply With Quote
The following member appreciates phil606 Ji for the above message.
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-Jan-2012, 16:04 PM
harry haller's Avatar harry haller harry haller is online now
 
Enrolled: Jan 31st, 2011
Location: UK
Age: 43
Posts: 1,529
harry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the rough
   
Adherent: Sikh
Blog Entries: 91
Liked 2,165 Times in 990 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Help! Im a white british guy with a sikh girlfriend

It depends on a lot, first some questions,

1. Is her family deeply religious
2. Is her family prominent in the community
3. Are any other members of the family dating or married to non sikhs
4. The fact that She would go along with an engagement for fear of parents implies you may be more serious than her, is this the case
5. Would you be willing to consider Sikhism and embrace it, not to marry, but as a way of life regardless
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843
6 Do you have good prospects career wise

I sympathise with your predicament, but the two of you could cause some quite serious problem for each other and her family. If the two of you are in love and are willing to fight for that, its possible it could have a happy ending, but relationships are hard at the best of times without this sort of pressure, if you could give an indication to the above, we could move on to a realistic and pragmatic solution

good luck
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-Jan-2012, 00:24 AM
WWW's Avatar WWW WWW is offline
 
Enrolled: Jun 25th, 2011
Posts: 2
WWW is an unknown quantity at this point
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Liked 4 Times in 1 Post
    Nationality: United States
Re: Help! Im a white british guy with a sikh girlfriend

Hi Phil,
I am a gora married to a punjabi girl, and I am going to give you some advice based on my experience. It may seem harsh, but its good advice. I try to give it when I hear guys like you, because I remember the feeling.

1. Be a man. Tell her either you are introduced to her family or the relationship is over. She will either respect you for it, break up with you, or you will find out how the family feels and either have to end it / can move forward. In any case this creeping around behind the family's back is not going to earn you respect. If her dad says no, you need to respect his right over her and end it.
2. Strongly consider ending it. Interfaith/cultural marriage is difficult, and I advise against it. It worked for me, but it was a long hard road and you still have to deal with BS. Also, think of the children... what religion will they be? How will they culturally identify? Mixed kids can have a hard life, this is something that I worry about constantly with my daughter.
3. You will never be fully accepted into the punjabi community. You just wont. Make sure you are ok with this. You should go ahead and start lifting some weights, because you WILL face the occasional alpha male punjabi man who is gonna want to kick your *** for marrying a punjabi girl. Some people will always resent you for it.
4. At the end of the day you should focus on yourself and your career. I am about a year away from being a doctor, and I can tell you that indians are absolutely obsessed with doctors. My daughter is marrying a gora sounds bad to parents, my daughter is marrying a gora doctor sounds much much better. Its all about respect and how the family is percieved in the community.
5. Their are very few resources for learning Punjabi (the language is even dying in punjab) so it can be difficult to talk to her family.
Now the good stuff.
1. Once you are accepted by the family, they are amazing. Extremely loyal, protective of you, and always can be relied on. Family is very important to punjabis, and once you are in it is a beautiful thing. I had a very hard time earning the respect of my father in law, but now that I have it I love the man like my own father and he treats me like a son. Hard earned, hard lost.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843
2. Indian weddings are fun as hell.
3. This is the biggest point. Even if you leave this girl, I strongly suggest you learn about the sikh religion. It has perhaps been the greatest gift that I have received from my wife. I think it is the greatest gift punjabis have to bring to the world. I am not saying you need to take amrit and get up at 3:00 am ( i dont ) but the more you learn from the Gurus the more you will love them and the more they will help you lead a good satisfying life. You just have to sift through the BS... the religion is being engulfed by hindu influence and the pure, practical religion that the Gurus taught is sometimes hard to find underneath all the cultural/superstitious baggage.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843

I hope that helped!
-W
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate WWW Ji for the above message.
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-Jan-2012, 01:59 AM
phil606's Avatar phil606 phil606 is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 7th, 2012
Age: 21
Posts: 7
phil606 is an unknown quantity at this point
   
Adherent: My own
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Help! Im a white british guy with a sikh girlfriend

Harry, as for your first 2 questions, I really don't know. The only thing i know about them is that she believes they will hate her if they found out we were dating. She's never really discussed family with me.
I know there were some complications with her sister dating a non sikh in the past but they were 'put straight' and she is now married to a sikh.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843
I do think there is a possibility of me being more serious than her but to embrace sikhism as a way of life, I do not think would be possible as I am in no way religious myself.
I know where I want to be career wise.

WWW thanks for the advise, helped me realise a few things.

If anyone has anymore suggestions/ questions please feel free to let me know.

Thanks guys
Reply With Quote
The following member appreciates phil606 Ji for the above message.
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-Jan-2012, 02:41 AM
Ambarsaria's Avatar Ambarsaria Ambarsaria is offline
ੴ / Ik▫oaʼnkār
 
Enrolled: Dec 21st, 2010
Posts: 2,720
Ambarsaria is just really nice
Ambarsaria is just really niceAmbarsaria is just really niceAmbarsaria is just really nice
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Liked 3,963 Times in 1,899 Posts
    Nationality: Canada
Re: Help! Im a white british guy with a sikh girlfriend

Quote:
Originally Posted by WWW View Post
Hi Phil,
I am a gora married to a punjabi girl, and I am going to give you some advice based on my experience. It may seem harsh, but its good advice. I try to give it when I hear guys like you, because I remember the feeling.

1. Be a man. Tell her either you are introduced to her family or the relationship is over. She will either respect you for it, break up with you, or you will find out how the family feels and either have to end it / can move forward. In any case this creeping around behind the family's back is not going to earn you respect. If her dad says no, you need to respect his right over her and end it.
2. Strongly consider ending it. Interfaith/cultural marriage is difficult, and I advise against it. It worked for me, but it was a long hard road and you still have to deal with BS. Also, think of the children... what religion will they be? How will they culturally identify? Mixed kids can have a hard life, this is something that I worry about constantly with my daughter.
3. You will never be fully accepted into the punjabi community. You just wont. Make sure you are ok with this. You should go ahead and start lifting some weights, because you WILL face the occasional alpha male punjabi man who is gonna want to kick your *** for marrying a punjabi girl. Some people will always resent you for it.
4. At the end of the day you should focus on yourself and your career. I am about a year away from being a doctor, and I can tell you that indians are absolutely obsessed with doctors. My daughter is marrying a gora sounds bad to parents, my daughter is marrying a gora doctor sounds much much better. Its all about respect and how the family is percieved in the community.
5. Their are very few resources for learning Punjabi (the language is even dying in punjab) so it can be difficult to talk to her family.
Now the good stuff.
1. Once you are accepted by the family, they are amazing. Extremely loyal, protective of you, and always can be relied on. Family is very important to punjabis, and once you are in it is a beautiful thing. I had a very hard time earning the respect of my father in law, but now that I have it I love the man like my own father and he treats me like a son. Hard earned, hard lost.
2. Indian weddings are fun as hell.
3. This is the biggest point. Even if you leave this girl, I strongly suggest you learn about the sikh religion. It has perhaps been the greatest gift that I have received from my wife. I think it is the greatest gift punjabis have to bring to the world. I am not saying you need to take amrit and get up at 3:00 am ( i dont ) but the more you learn from the Gurus the more you will love them and the more they will help you lead a good satisfying life. You just have to sift through the BS... the religion is being engulfed by hindu influence and the pure, practical religion that the Gurus taught is sometimes hard to find underneath all the cultural/superstitious baggage.

I hope that helped!
-W
Brother www so well stated, true and practical. Behind the back of parents is just delaying the addressing of a problem. Punjabi parents like most parents wish for an intelligent, respectful, educated and well to do man for their daughters. I can not even add an iota as a Sikh and Punjabi.

In today's society is it always possible for all Sikh girls to achieve most of such in relationship with ample supply of such Sikh grooms, it is hardly so. So interfaith marriages will become more likely and I wish always for happiness of the couple, family and respective in-laws.

Your comments on Sikhism are spot on too.

Have a wonderful 2012.

Sat Sri Akal.
Reply With Quote
The following member appreciates Ambarsaria Ji for the above message.
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-Jan-2012, 05:12 AM
Driops's Avatar Driops Driops is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 6th, 2012
Posts: 12
Driops is an unknown quantity at this point
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Liked 24 Times in 10 Posts
   
Re: Help! Im a white british guy with a sikh girlfriend

Why donīt she talked with you about her family. If you both are in such a big love, you would have discussed each topic. Do you really know her? Anyways, is she religious? To be Born into a punjabi family doesnīt makes her a Sikh. A Sikh is someone who has chosen the way of life as a Sikh by hisself. If she isnīt a devout Sikh, then it is a cultural problem. And I think it will be harder, cause this Macho- "Jatt Syndrom". What keeps you thinking that you will stay by her your lifelong. Whats stopping you to start loving another Person? There isnīt only the Religious Aspect... And how do you want your kids grow up? Parents have a big influence on their kids. Why it is so difficult for you to embrace Sikhi? Why donīt you give it a try?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843
Good luck
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 09-Jan-2012, 13:10 PM
phil606's Avatar phil606 phil606 is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 7th, 2012
Age: 21
Posts: 7
phil606 is an unknown quantity at this point
   
Adherent: My own
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Help! Im a white british guy with a sikh girlfriend

Okay so now basically she has told her father whiles talking about her arranged marriage.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37843
Shes told me he was really upset but gave her a choice to come live with me but if anything goes wrong she cant go back to them, or go forward with the arranged marriage. Would her family really neglect her forever for doing this? Alwo her dad said he wants me to go round and talk, how should I respond to this?

Thanks in advance
Phil
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-Jan-2012, 20:59 PM
phil606's Avatar phil606 phil606 is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 7th, 2012
Age: 21
Posts: 7
phil606 is an unknown quantity at this point
   
Adherent: My own
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Help! Im a white british guy with a sikh girlfriend

Please can somebody help me. Would it be better if i went to a Gurdwara and talked to someone there?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11-Jan-2012, 21:43 PM
harry haller's Avatar harry haller harry haller is online now
 
Enrolled: Jan 31st, 2011
Location: UK
Age: 43
Posts: 1,529
harry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the roughharry haller is a jewel in the rough
   
Adherent: Sikh
Blog Entries: 91
Liked 2,165 Times in 990 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Help! Im a white british guy with a sikh girlfriend

  Donate Today!  
Sorry philji, I was waiting to see what the outcome of the conversation with dad was, has it taken place yet?
Reply With Quote
   Click Here to Donate Now!

Support Us!
Become a Promoter!
Gurfateh ji, you can become a SPN Promoter by Donating as little as $10 each month. With limited resources & high operational costs, your donations make it possible for us to deliver a quality website and spread the teachings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to serve & uplift humanity. Every contribution counts. Donate Generously. Gurfateh!
ReplyPost New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Tools Search
Search:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Gurbani Jukebox
Listen to Gurbani while surfing SPN!
» Active Discussions
sikhism Description of the...
By Ishna
Today 17:21 PM
42 Replies, 742 Views
sikhism Sant Siphahi -...
Today 17:19 PM
1 Replies, 6 Views
sikhism need urgent advice.......
Today 17:07 PM
13 Replies, 144 Views
sikhism How important is Matha...
Today 15:22 PM
66 Replies, 1,114 Views
sikhism On a Scale of Most...
Today 13:10 PM
31 Replies, 1,297 Views
sikhism Sikh Diamonds Video...
Today 13:06 PM
7 Replies, 132 Views
sikhism Who is "Mohan"?
Today 13:00 PM
23 Replies, 394 Views
sikhism Herman Hesse,...
Today 12:40 PM
14 Replies, 238 Views
sikhism Considering Cutting My...
Today 11:05 AM
123 Replies, 3,956 Views
sikhism ਨਾਮਾ
Today 06:37 AM
2 Replies, 63 Views
sikhism Are Creator and Creation...
Today 01:30 AM
44 Replies, 2,854 Views
sikhism I became victim by...
Yesterday 19:50 PM
0 Replies, 54 Views
sikhism Sikh Books downloads
Yesterday 15:39 PM
2 Replies, 78 Views
sikhism Salok Sheikh Farid ji...
Yesterday 09:35 AM
0 Replies, 52 Views
sikhism In Punjab, three farmers...
Yesterday 05:36 AM
0 Replies, 52 Views
» Books You Should Read...
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT +6.5. The time now is 17:57 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.5.2 Copyright Đ 2004-12, All Rights Reserved. Sikh Philosophy Network


Page generated in 0.49105 seconds with 29 queries