Guru Nanak: A 'False' Prophet ?

sid · #**145** (**permalink**) 10-Jul-2012, 12:27 PM

the message and guidelines for life style given by guru nanak ji only want any one to follow not to debate using huge and very heavy words.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-dialogues/203-guru-nanak-a-false-prophet.html
his messages need only one home that is our heart
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sandeep17oct · #**146** (**permalink**) 20-Aug-2012, 22:00 PM

Please see this:
http://thelangarhall.com/sikhi/prese...hrine-in-iraq/

harcharanjitsinghdhillon · #**147** (**permalink**) 28-Dec-2012, 12:50 PM

Please understand the whole of sikhism revealations is coming directly from god without the help of anything in between example angels..quran is coming thru the help of angels..sikhism rejects angels because they themself are lost in maya.. So in sikhism thought mukti cannot be earned thru the help of angels.. Some say angels has no desires.. Sikhism rejects this because all angels plus other deities are crying for a human birth plus grace of god, so the desires are there... Thru human birth there is free will and chance to earn grace of god for mukti.. Angels does not have free will,, they are following god comandments and singing the lord praises only.. But angels are also not attaining any grace of god.. So angels cannot teach us the path of mukti, return to god..destiny in sikhism is to return to god but destiny in islam is heaven and hell.. Sikhism rejects heaven and hell because in both cases ego-haumai is still there and further more heaven and hells are still located in maya region.. Islam has labeled the whole humanity as carrying original sins of adam and eve, except their prophet the choosen one..sikhism rejects this because grace of god is for the whole creation. Sikhism takes the soul to be the true self, but islam takes the body to be the one and about the soul they will say it s a god secret, man does not know anything about the soul.. In sikhism, the body or ego haumai cannot show us the path to mukti, but it will take you to maya to enjoy heaven and hell... Sikhism recommend it s followers to go into the 4th stage, where the true soul will manifest but islam only mingle arround with the 3 types consciousness, the highest here is sleeping without dreams, then wait till judgement day when everything is distroyed.. Sikhism rejects this because this 3 stages are all in maya region.. Sikhism wants us to be awake not sleeping, because mukti is only earned in waking state consciousness on earth physical plane in a human birth... Islam believe human birth is coming from the past sins of adam and eve..sikhism rejects this, because human birth are coming from past good actions.. So after a human birth it s time to run after mukti thru the grace of god.. But in islam they keep on running after good actions because their destiny is the heaven in maya. but they does not know by preserving the ego, death will always be there.. they did not made their destiny beyond maya because they think man is a original sinner and has desires. sikhism rejects this and say the lord s grace is very powerfull and there is no weakness in god and his grace.. since revealations in islam is coming from the limited angels, they think life and death is only taking place once.. But destiny in sikhism is SUCH KHAND, the highest heaven beyond maya and time and space and where there is no duality and ego, no male or female.. quran is brought down by only sound of the bell, but sikhism are full revealations thru the help of shabad naam directly from god.. this is my oppinion

harcharanjitsinghdhillon · #**148** (**permalink**) 02-Jan-2013, 06:25 AM

continue---- even though sikhism does not make a destiny to heavens or hell in maya region but sikhism does not deny the existance of heavens and hells in maya.. for sikhism every birth is a hell, because the entity is still in an EGO form, and death is always there. the real heaven is Such Khand where death, time, duality, and ego does not exist..this is where the true soul will manifest, true soul will usually listen only but not talking in languages. here there are no languages. here oneness with god is experienced.

aristotle · #**149** (**permalink**) 02-Jan-2013, 11:57 AM

This thing always annoys me. Some Muslims throw this argument: Guru Nanak didn't claim he was a prophet, Muhammad said he was a prophet. So, Muhammad is the last prophet and Sikhs should submit to him..
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=203
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=203

For God's sake people, use your grey matter...and have a life...
Guru Nanak Sahib is our Guru, the holy teacher...and his pedestal is unsharable to anyone...

spnadmin · #**150** (**permalink**) 02-Jan-2013, 12:36 PM

This thread goes back years. It was a wind-up thread intended to get Sikhs wound up over an irrelevant statement... kind of like breaking up a wedding by tripping the bridegroom's uncle and then saying he deserved it because he wasn't watching where he was walking. Poor uncle! He did realize he needed to be on guard for a set-up followed by a sucker punch. There is no point to it because no one ever claimed Guru Nanak was a prophet to begin with, including Guru Nanak. So why walk into the ambush? Or if you know it is an ambush, just call it for what it is and leave the reception. Who wins in this kind of argument?

harcharanjitsinghdhillon · #**151** (**permalink**) 14-Jan-2013, 16:10 PM

Guru nanak did mention, that whoever who can come forward and show him the path of naam, he is ready to touch their feet..this is what we call in sikhism the art of practising humility, minus the pride.. the muslim prophet mention that he is the chosen one and the last prophet.. in sikhism we call this an act of pride, not humility.. guru nanak did mention that god is not partial, his grace is for everyone.. further more the NAAM in islam mention in QURAN is only sound of bell.. in sikhism we went much further then this.. in islam they believe god is talking, in sikhism listening is more vital..when you say god is talking that means their revealations are only coming from universal mind-- kalaam.. but actually god is much higher then this.. WHATEVER COMES FROM THIS KAALAM, IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO REGION OF TIME AND SPACE ONLY.. actually the true ONE GOD-akal purakh is seated much higher then this kaalam-universal mind..they islam are only taking on the immanent part of god that is sargun, but they forgot about NIRGUN.. At the beginning when there was nothing, there was no sargun yet, but only nirgun- unmanifested one was there.. destiny in sikhism is to rise higher then time and space, and only naam is the true guide..