Sign Up |  Live StatsLive Stats    Articles 34,878| Comments 154,828| Members 17,229, Newest kuljeet kaur| Online 376
Home Contact
 (Forgotten?): 
    Sikhism

   
                                                                     Your Banner Here!    

 
 
  
  

Hinduism: Science or Religion

Our Donation Goal : Why Donate? : Donate Today! : Donate Anonymously (ਗੁਪਤ) : Our Family of Supporters
Goal this month: 400 USD, Received: 25 USD (6%)
Please Donate...
Related Topics...
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Science vs Religion Neutral Singh Interfaith Dialogues 17 17-Dec-2010 22:58 PM
Is Science a Religion? Neutral Singh Interfaith Dialogues 8 17-Dec-2010 03:26 AM
Cosmological Ideas in Science and Religion H.S.VIRK Sikh Sikhi Sikhism 4 17-Dec-2010 03:19 AM
Q2. What is The Science of Religion? spnadmin Sikh Sikhi Sikhism 13 17-Dec-2010 03:00 AM
Science and Religion ab123 Interfaith Dialogues 3 18-Aug-2010 18:12 PM


Tags
hinduism, religion, science
Reply Post New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 10:48 AM
seeker3k's Avatar seeker3k seeker3k is online now
 
Enrolled: May 25th, 2008
Location: canada
Posts: 249
seeker3k has a spectacular aura aboutseeker3k has a spectacular aura aboutseeker3k has a spectacular aura about
   
Adherent: Agnostic
Thanks: 41
Thanked 165 Times in 93 Posts
    Nationality: Canada
Hinduism: Science or Religion

  Donate Today!   Email to Friend  Tell a Friend   Show Printable Version  Print   Contact sikhphilosophy.net Administraion for any Suggestions, Ideas, Feedback.  Feedback  

Register to Remove Advertisements
Hinduism: science or religion?

Hinduism started long time ago. No one really knows when. There is lot of misconception about Hinduism. Most of the religions in India have been from Hinduism. But is Hinduism religion or it is science. This will be short version. To write fully will take lot of space. If one is interested in knowing more he/she has to do the research. Is this the truth what I am going to write. No one knows what the truth is. Take it which ever way you want to take it.
I like to make it clear here that I am not Hindu nor I am in any religion. Long time ago I have been taught to think out side of the “BOX”.

Contrary to the peoples belief Hindus believe in one God. They call it satha Shiv.(for ever shiv) This satha Shiv for unknown reason created 3 sub Gods. Brahma, Vishnu, Shivji.
Brahma is to create life and Shivji is to destroy life. Vishu is to sustain life. Satha Shiv have no form can not be seen can not be touched. Can not hear any prayer. It is said to be every where in the universe.

Because brahma is creator he created many sami gods like Inder, agni, wind, so on and on. They were called devtas. Vishu is a neutral to all. He is the one take human form to reestablish the dharma. He came to earth as Ram, Krishna. Shivji is responsible for death of any life. This is what people believed then and now. Hindus believe that body dies and soul live on. It is this soul they were concern with not the body. Soul they say is like a power it can not be destroyed nor can it be created. The soul takes birth again due to his/her karma. Life start from very low specie single cell and the last on the ladder is the cow before the soul will be born in human form. Each time soul is born it will use last life’s karma and next birth is based on his karma in this life. Logically it doesn’t make sense to non Hindus.

In the stories of ramyan and mahabhart there the atom (parmanoo) weapons were used in the war. And many other technology was used in the war. One can look it up if need to. It is dismissed by non Hindus and many modern Hindus. They say it is only a fiction it was not real. Could be, but one thing we have to admit that people who wrote the stories must have been very advance thinkers. How could they write thing that even now haven’t devolved yet. There one group of people then called rishis they did the research in every part of life and matter. In health ethic politic every part of life.
It was the rishis who knew the secret of life. They try to explain it but people did not knew. They had no knowledge and it was lost. People were lost and did not know what to do. People wanted some thing to believe in. So they made idols and started to worship them. The whole knowledge was lost.
Science
[FONT=Times New Roman]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea1GIRosBoc&feature=related[/FON"]400 Bad Request

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hinduism/27996-hinduism-science-or-religion.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27996
Smallest practical of matter is atom. It has three parts. Proton, electron, neutron.
Neutron have no charge which can be equal to vishnu
Proton has positive change can be brahma who is positive create life.
Electron can be related to shivji. The destroyer death.

It was the rishis who did the research that they understood the power of the atom. Due to the split of the atom we have all the innovations and technology in the world.
There are many reference of the atom in the Vedas. No one understood and the rishis hid this knowledge from the public it was lost for ever. The Brahmans took advantage of the public’s ignorance and control the public and made lot of money.
If the science could turn into religion then how can other religion save them self.

Now the scientists have found the energy in the universe they call is dark energy. They claim it is 95% in the universe. Only 5% is solid matter. Looks like it is satha Shiv.
Scientist have not reached where the rishis were thousands years ago. But they will go past where the rishis were by the end of this century. That’s when it will be the end of religion as we know of.

There is no other religion that has its base in science just Hinduism. What is being done with that knowledge now?

Will write about how karma works. If there is such a thing as karma.

seeker






 
Do share your immediate thoughts or reactions on this issue? We value your views! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views with us.. Gurfateh!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 16:44 PM
mluther746's Avatar mluther746 mluther746 is offline
 
Enrolled: Nov 21st, 2009
Age: 31
Posts: 4
mluther746 is on a distinguished road
   
Adherent: Christianity
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion

Nice article about Hinduism...........
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 17:03 PM
dalbirk's Avatar dalbirk dalbirk is offline
 
Enrolled: May 24th, 2008
Posts: 513
dalbirk is a splendid one to beholddalbirk is a splendid one to beholddalbirk is a splendid one to beholddalbirk is a splendid one to beholddalbirk is a splendid one to beholddalbirk is a splendid one to beholddalbirk is a splendid one to beholddalbirk is a splendid one to behold
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Thanks: 1,819
Thanked 789 Times in 330 Posts
    Nationality: India
Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion

We are not seeing any practical following of Hinduism as is told in the article , only BRAHMINISM seems to be prevasive everywhere .
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 17:51 PM
AusDesi's Avatar AusDesi AusDesi is offline
 
Enrolled: Jul 18th, 2009
Location: Dharmashtere Australiashtre
Posts: 348
AusDesi has a spectacular aura aboutAusDesi has a spectacular aura aboutAusDesi has a spectacular aura about
   
Adherent: Hinduism
Thanks: 13
Thanked 209 Times in 120 Posts
    Nationality: Australia
Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion

Askin for trouble this thread. As usual majority of the responses will be like the one above.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 18:24 PM
kds1980's Avatar kds1980 kds1980 is offline
(previously Kanwardeep Singh)
 
Enrolled: Apr 4th, 2005
Location: INDIA
Age: 31
Posts: 4,257
kds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond repute
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Thanks: 332
Thanked 2,372 Times in 1,233 Posts
    Nationality: India
Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by AusDesi View Post
Askin for trouble this thread. As usual majority of the responses will be like the one above.
Aus desi ji

I have great respect for hinduism But I do have problem with above type of Articles.Reason is why do hindu's that are living in west or are on internet
try to give these type justification while the reality is these things are far from what you see common Hindu practising .It looks like the same as the muslims say that quran is full of sceintific miracles, and any one should produce one chapter like quran.

If today someone say that that hindu's worship money's or cows then Educated hindu's feel offended while it is reality that they are worshipped
by large number of people and killing these animals could even spark riots.
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate kds1980 Ji for the above message.
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 19:21 PM
Sukhmani's Avatar Sukhmani Sukhmani is offline
 
Enrolled: Jun 28th, 2007
Posts: 6
Sukhmani is on a distinguished road
   
Adherent: Undisclosed
Thanks: 1
Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts
    Nationality: Zaire
Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion

it is a kind of biased view on hinduism, dear seeker3k ji, with some kind of misunderstanding...
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27996
moreover, what exactly is hinduism with regards to so many very different philosophical and religious teachings, schools and sampradayas often opposing one another... difficult to define... let's not forget hinduism is a term very usefull especially for social sciences but not a unified religion...
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27996
religions and sciences use different methods in their approach to the world. to mix them together can bring a lot of confusion... i m sorry
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 19:58 PM
AusDesi's Avatar AusDesi AusDesi is offline
 
Enrolled: Jul 18th, 2009
Location: Dharmashtere Australiashtre
Posts: 348
AusDesi has a spectacular aura aboutAusDesi has a spectacular aura aboutAusDesi has a spectacular aura about
   
Adherent: Hinduism
Thanks: 13
Thanked 209 Times in 120 Posts
    Nationality: Australia
Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanwardeep Singh View Post
Aus desi ji

I have great respect for hinduism But I do have problem with above type of Articles.Reason is why do hindu's that are living in west or are on internet
try to give these type justification while the reality is these things are far from what you see common Hindu practising .It looks like the same as the muslims say that quran is full of sceintific miracles, and any one should produce one chapter like quran.

If today someone say that that hindu's worship money's or cows then Educated hindu's feel offended while it is reality that they are worshipped
by large number of people and killing these animals could even spark riots.
I have respect for your views and I agree that hindus in the West try to prove all sorts of things from metaphors in various religious scriptures. Hinduism is not alone in this.

However, I did not say the article was right. I only said that the replies will generate the "this is brahminism" type replies.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 20:02 PM
AusDesi's Avatar AusDesi AusDesi is offline
 
Enrolled: Jul 18th, 2009
Location: Dharmashtere Australiashtre
Posts: 348
AusDesi has a spectacular aura aboutAusDesi has a spectacular aura aboutAusDesi has a spectacular aura about
   
Adherent: Hinduism
Thanks: 13
Thanked 209 Times in 120 Posts
    Nationality: Australia
Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhmani View Post
moreover, what exactly is hinduism with regards to so many very different philosophical and religious teachings, schools and sampradayas often opposing one another... difficult to define... let's not forget hinduism is a term very usefull especially for social sciences but not a unified religion...
It depends. I think as has been legally said, any sect can call itself hindu as long as they adhere to the authority of the vedas. Otherwise, they are not hindu.

Hinduism is not a unified religion. It doesn't have a central authority. However, there is no one way to define god so there are many theories which breeds sects.

Hindu is a modern term though Gurbani uses the word Hindu.
Reply With Quote
The following member appreciates AusDesi Ji for the above message.
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 20:29 PM
Sukhmani's Avatar Sukhmani Sukhmani is offline
 
Enrolled: Jun 28th, 2007
Posts: 6
Sukhmani is on a distinguished road
   
Adherent: Undisclosed
Thanks: 1
Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts
    Nationality: Zaire
Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion

okk ausdesi ji,

but if there is no cetral authority in hinduism who has the right to say this is not hindu and this is hindu because they adhere to the authority of vedas...i dont know... hard to say "legally said" ... by whom? many sects are very far from vedas. the philosophical base they build on are rather upanishads... i know very well those definitions of hinduism ... but they are not fully correct...
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 24-Nov-2009, 20:44 PM
AusDesi's Avatar AusDesi AusDesi is offline
 
Enrolled: Jul 18th, 2009
Location: Dharmashtere Australiashtre
Posts: 348
AusDesi has a spectacular aura aboutAusDesi has a spectacular aura aboutAusDesi has a spectacular aura about
   
Adherent: Hinduism
Thanks: 13
Thanked 209 Times in 120 Posts
    Nationality: Australia
Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion

  Donate Today!  
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhmani View Post
okk ausdesi ji,

but if there is no cetral authority in hinduism who has the right to say this is not hindu and this is hindu because they adhere to the authority of vedas...i dont know... hard to say "legally said" ... by whom? many sects are very far from vedas. the philosophical base they build on are rather upanishads... i know very well those definitions of hinduism ... but they are not fully correct...
In 1995, while considering the question "who are Hindus and what are the broad features of Hindu religion", the Supreme Court of India highlighted Bal Gangadhar Tilak's formulation of Hinduism's defining features:[15]
"Acceptance of the Vedas with reverence; recognition of the fact that the means or ways to salvation are diverse; and the realization of the truth that the number of gods to be worshipped is large, that indeed is the distinguishing feature of Hindu religion."
Hindu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No one has the right to say Who is a Hindu however for legal purposes it was required.

It comes down to the Astika and Nastika terms. Astika's are people who agree on the authority of the vedas. Nastika's don't. Nastika's are non-hindus according to Hindu culture and beliefs.

Nastika/Nastik however does not mean atheist.
Reply With Quote
The following member appreciates AusDesi Ji for the above message.
   Click Here to Donate Now!

Support Us!
Become a Promoter!
Gurfateh ji, you can become a SPN Promoter by Donating as little as $10 each month. With limited resources & high operational costs, your donations make it possible for us to deliver a quality website and spread the teachings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to serve & uplift humanity. Every contribution counts. Donate Generously. Gurfateh!
ReplyPost New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!

Bookmarks


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hinduism/27996-hinduism-science-or-religion.html
Posted By For Type Date
?? ???? ?????? ?????? ??? This thread Refback 14-Sep-2010 21:31 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Tools Search
Search:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Gurbani Jukebox
Listen to Gurbani while surfing SPN!
» Recent Discussions
sikhism Incidental happiness
Today 23:00 PM
0 Replies, 1 Views
sikhism Amazing truth!
Today 22:20 PM
0 Replies, 11 Views
sikhism Black money: Indians...
Today 21:40 PM
1 Replies, 21 Views
sikhism Benti Chaupai - Keertan...
Today 21:06 PM
9 Replies, 185 Views
sikhism Meditate - How, What,...
Today 21:04 PM
37 Replies, 1,096 Views
sikhism Sikh temple brawl a...
Today 20:33 PM
0 Replies, 22 Views
sikhism Turban Cloth
Today 20:32 PM
3 Replies, 86 Views
sikhism A village where every...
Today 19:12 PM
0 Replies, 27 Views
Why have Sikhs Changed...
Today 18:12 PM
34 Replies, 1,153 Views
Fools Who Wrangle Over...
Today 17:38 PM
910 Replies, 77,790 Views
Is Hindu/Sikh a Valid...
Today 16:40 PM
79 Replies, 1,386 Views
Scientists cure cancer,...
By Kamala
Today 14:09 PM
7 Replies, 120 Views
Any Japji Sahib videos...
By Kamala
Today 13:02 PM
6 Replies, 70 Views
SGPC Recruitment Scandal
Today 04:09 AM
0 Replies, 52 Views
Sukhmani Sahib Astpadi 8...
Today 01:43 AM
0 Replies, 46 Views
» Books You Should Read...
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT +6.5. The time now is 23:03 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.5.2 Copyright © 2004-12, All Rights Reserved. Sikh Philosophy Network


Page generated in 0.62052 seconds with 29 queries