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| | | | | Hinduism: Science or Religion Hinduism: science or religion? Hinduism started long time ago. No one really knows when. There is lot of misconception about Hinduism. Most of the religions in India have been from Hinduism. But is Hinduism religion or it is science. This will be short version. To write fully will take lot of space. If one is interested in knowing more he/she has to do the research. Is this the truth what I am going to write. No one knows what the truth is. Take it which ever way you want to take it. I like to make it clear here that I am not Hindu nor I am in any religion. Long time ago I have been taught to think out side of the “BOX”. Contrary to the peoples belief Hindus believe in one God. They call it satha Shiv.(for ever shiv) This satha Shiv for unknown reason created 3 sub Gods. Brahma, Vishnu, Shivji. Brahma is to create life and Shivji is to destroy life. Vishu is to sustain life. Satha Shiv have no form can not be seen can not be touched. Can not hear any prayer. It is said to be every where in the universe. Because brahma is creator he created many sami gods like Inder, agni, wind, so on and on. They were called devtas. Vishu is a neutral to all. He is the one take human form to reestablish the dharma. He came to earth as Ram, Krishna. Shivji is responsible for death of any life. This is what people believed then and now. Hindus believe that body dies and soul live on. It is this soul they were concern with not the body. Soul they say is like a power it can not be destroyed nor can it be created. The soul takes birth again due to his/her karma. Life start from very low specie single cell and the last on the ladder is the cow before the soul will be born in human form. Each time soul is born it will use last life’s karma and next birth is based on his karma in this life. Logically it doesn’t make sense to non Hindus. In the stories of ramyan and mahabhart there the atom (parmanoo) weapons were used in the war. And many other technology was used in the war. One can look it up if need to. It is dismissed by non Hindus and many modern Hindus. They say it is only a fiction it was not real. Could be, but one thing we have to admit that people who wrote the stories must have been very advance thinkers. How could they write thing that even now haven’t devolved yet. There one group of people then called rishis they did the research in every part of life and matter. In health ethic politic every part of life. It was the rishis who knew the secret of life. They try to explain it but people did not knew. They had no knowledge and it was lost. People were lost and did not know what to do. People wanted some thing to believe in. So they made idols and started to worship them. The whole knowledge was lost. Science [FONT=Times New Roman]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea1GIRosBoc&feature=related[/FON"]400 Bad Request Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hinduism/27996-hinduism-science-or-religion.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27996 Smallest practical of matter is atom. It has three parts. Proton, electron, neutron.
Neutron have no charge which can be equal to vishnu
Proton has positive change can be brahma who is positive create life.
Electron can be related to shivji. The destroyer death.
It was the rishis who did the research that they understood the power of the atom. Due to the split of the atom we have all the innovations and technology in the world.
There are many reference of the atom in the Vedas. No one understood and the rishis hid this knowledge from the public it was lost for ever. The Brahmans took advantage of the public’s ignorance and control the public and made lot of money.
If the science could turn into religion then how can other religion save them self.
Now the scientists have found the energy in the universe they call is dark energy. They claim it is 95% in the universe. Only 5% is solid matter. Looks like it is satha Shiv.
Scientist have not reached where the rishis were thousands years ago. But they will go past where the rishis were by the end of this century. That’s when it will be the end of religion as we know of.
There is no other religion that has its base in science just Hinduism. What is being done with that knowledge now?
Will write about how karma works. If there is such a thing as karma.
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| | | | | Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion Nice article about Hinduism........... | 
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| | | | | Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion We are not seeing any practical following of Hinduism as is told in the article , only BRAHMINISM seems to be prevasive everywhere . | 
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| | | | | Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion Askin for trouble this thread. As usual majority of the responses will be like the one above. | 
24-Nov-2009, 18:24 PM
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| | | | | Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion Quote:
Originally Posted by AusDesi Askin for trouble this thread. As usual majority of the responses will be like the one above. | Aus desi ji
I have great respect for hinduism But I do have problem with above type of Articles.Reason is why do hindu's that are living in west or are on internet
try to give these type justification while the reality is these things are far from what you see common Hindu practising .It looks like the same as the muslims say that quran is full of sceintific miracles, and any one should produce one chapter like quran.
If today someone say that that hindu's worship money's or cows then Educated hindu's feel offended while it is reality that they are worshipped
by large number of people and killing these animals could even spark riots. | | The following members appreciate kds1980 Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion it is a kind of biased view on hinduism, dear seeker3k ji, with some kind of misunderstanding... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27996
moreover, what exactly is hinduism with regards to so many very different philosophical and religious teachings, schools and sampradayas often opposing one another... difficult to define... let's not forget hinduism is a term very usefull especially for social sciences but not a unified religion... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27996
religions and sciences use different methods in their approach to the world. to mix them together can bring a lot of confusion... i m sorry | 
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| | | | | Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanwardeep Singh Aus desi ji
I have great respect for hinduism But I do have problem with above type of Articles.Reason is why do hindu's that are living in west or are on internet
try to give these type justification while the reality is these things are far from what you see common Hindu practising .It looks like the same as the muslims say that quran is full of sceintific miracles, and any one should produce one chapter like quran.
If today someone say that that hindu's worship money's or cows then Educated hindu's feel offended while it is reality that they are worshipped
by large number of people and killing these animals could even spark riots. | I have respect for your views and I agree that hindus in the West try to prove all sorts of things from metaphors in various religious scriptures. Hinduism is not alone in this.
However, I did not say the article was right. I only said that the replies will generate the "this is brahminism" type replies. | 
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| | | | | Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhmani moreover, what exactly is hinduism with regards to so many very different philosophical and religious teachings, schools and sampradayas often opposing one another... difficult to define... let's not forget hinduism is a term very usefull especially for social sciences but not a unified religion... | It depends. I think as has been legally said, any sect can call itself hindu as long as they adhere to the authority of the vedas. Otherwise, they are not hindu.
Hinduism is not a unified religion. It doesn't have a central authority. However, there is no one way to define god so there are many theories which breeds sects.
Hindu is a modern term though Gurbani uses the word Hindu. | | The following member appreciates AusDesi Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion okk ausdesi ji,
but if there is no cetral authority in hinduism who has the right to say this is not hindu and this is hindu because they adhere to the authority of vedas...i dont know... hard to say "legally said" ... by whom? many sects are very far from vedas. the philosophical base they build on are rather upanishads... i know very well those definitions of hinduism ... but they are not fully correct... | 
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| | | | | Re: Hinduism: Science OR Religion Quote:
Originally Posted by Sukhmani okk ausdesi ji,
but if there is no cetral authority in hinduism who has the right to say this is not hindu and this is hindu because they adhere to the authority of vedas...i dont know... hard to say "legally said" ... by whom? many sects are very far from vedas. the philosophical base they build on are rather upanishads... i know very well those definitions of hinduism ... but they are not fully correct...  | In 1995, while considering the question "who are Hindus and what are the broad features of Hindu religion", the Supreme Court of India highlighted Bal Gangadhar Tilak's formulation of Hinduism's defining features:[15]
"Acceptance of the Vedas with reverence; recognition of the fact that the means or ways to salvation are diverse; and the realization of the truth that the number of gods to be worshipped is large, that indeed is the distinguishing feature of Hindu religion." Hindu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No one has the right to say Who is a Hindu however for legal purposes it was required.
It comes down to the Astika and Nastika terms. Astika's are people who agree on the authority of the vedas. Nastika's don't. Nastika's are non-hindus according to Hindu culture and beliefs.
Nastika/Nastik however does not mean atheist. | | The following member appreciates AusDesi Ji for the above message. | | 
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