TV Interview: Giani Gurbachan Singh, Jathedar Sri Akal Takhat Sahib on Darshan Singh

talks to JUS Punjabi TV on the Maryada of Sri Akal Takhat Sahib in giving someone Tankhah and other Panthic issues including Prof Darshan Singh Ji Khalsaarshan Singh's failure to appear before Sri Akal Takhat Sahib
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If one wants a .."LONGER LINE"..one DRAWS a Longer line..NOT try and ERASE some one elses LONG line in an attempt to make it seem that my line is LONGER !!
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Personal attacks..inneundos..dont make one jathedar worthy of respect...ONLY TRUTH and always TRUTH and Principled behaviour makes one a Jathedar like Prof Prof Darshan Singh Ji Khalsaarshan Singh or Akali Phoola Singh.
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Anyway this TV is of the same repute as Lamba and his cronies...a "privately owned mouthpiece"...so nothing on it has any credence...absolutley none.

Did anyone catch the same blunder by the Jathedar and Lamba group?

On 5:20 seconds on Part 2 They asked whether or not as outlined in the document if Prof Darshan Singh is truly an "Aukautee Prof" in english terms meaning self styled Prof? So can we call him aukautee prof.

Jathedar had replied we had not even used the word Aukautee in the hukamnama, in which in fact he did. Lamba and the other individual had replied very quickly and corrected him. Jathedar seems very confused for a few seconds. Now the note here to make is how can the Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht sahib not know what he had written on the hukamnama to the former Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib which was read and written approx. 10 or so days prior to the interview? Either the Jathedar has a bad memory or a third party source had written under the name of Sri Akal Takht Sahib and handed it over to the so called jathedar. Knowning myself whatever i would have written i do remember. However writting such an important document such as an hukamanama of sri akal takht he forgets?

International Akaali ji

It is a widely held view that the document was written by Lamba and then circulated to various "panthic orgs" days ahead of time. How else would Panthic Weekly have a copy before Professor Darshan Singh even reached India? As you recall the first document and the second document do not match on a couple of important details. The gambit was to get the message out early and then carry out the "hearing" as a mere formality.
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This is called: Get an indictment first and worry about asking questions and getting the evidence later. And the evidence was polluted anyway.

In January, it will be ridiculous!

Pre 1984 Akal Takht Hukamnamas were revered and held in awe. Anyone declared Tankhaya would truly be socially boycotted by the Sikhs. The Punishments handed out would be accepted with humility by the high and mighty.
Post 1984 there were a flurry of eddicts. Initially they were respected but they began to appear ridiculous. Buta Singh was the first to defy it and he was not affected a wee bit.
Now in India nobody takes it seriously. National media totaly ignores it. Tribune carries it in the inside columns. A few local Punjabi papers may give it importance. it is not the main news even on PTC Punjabi.
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I suggest SPNers also should make only a passing reference to prounouncements made by AT or SGPC until they regain a semblance of credibility.

Gurfateh

Harbans ji,

Guru Fateh.



1.Can you please share with us the reasons of the reverence and than about the defiance of the same traditional custom by the Sikhs?

2.Does this oral tradition of punishment ( we must not ever forget that we serve/seek the Nirbhau, Nirvair Ik Ong Kaar) compliment or contradict Gurmat ideals given to us in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, our only Guru?

3. What in your opinion will make these pronouncements of punishment (I gather you agree with this tradition) credible?

Thanks & Regards

Tejwant Singh

Tejwant ji

Even 5ks are not in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji so should we start saying that there is no need of 5 ks.Also no where it is written in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that Gurgaddi is pssed to Guru granth sahib,we have to rely on external sources for that.Please remember sikhism is Guru panth and guru granth sahib.Panth have to take many decisions to preserve sikhism.Without Panth there will no Guru granth sahib

Kanwardeep Singh ji,

Guru Fateh.

I am bit puzzled by your post. My questions have nothing to do with what you said. Ofcourse, Sikhi is a unique way of life as compared to other religions. Our visionary Gurus did not write any history on purpose nor did they hire any artists to draw their portraits. Had they done both or either, then Sikhi would not be what it is today which is to shed Me-ism.

So, yes we have to rely on oral traditions and other parts of history written by others on hear says.

Yes, there is no place but in Rehatnaamas which claim that Guru Gobind Singh ji, gave Gurgadhi to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. But, let us talk about the facts that we know. We know that Guru Arjan Dev ji compiled the Aad Granth and Guru Gobind Singh ji added his dad's Gurbani to it. So, there is no question that we are the true people of THE BOOK.

5k's are not a prerequisite to be a Sikh. That is the reason I said your post is a bit puzzling and has no relationship to what I asked Harbans ji.

Now, let us get to the slogan which you have used and it has been used quite frequently by many, especially after the case of Prof Sahib's episode.

Pardon my ignorance, but I have no idea what that means. Can you elaborate it with the verses from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji so we can understand what Gurmat message is encrypted in it?

Panth was NOT started by Guru Gobind Singh ji but by Guru Nanak Dev Ji. The whole Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, our only Guru shows us what a Panthi is like and how one can become a Panthi.

In other words, the Sikhi panth cake was baked by our nine Gurus and Guru Gobind Singh put the icing on it.

If you would like to respond to my questions to Harbans ji, please feel free to pitch in.

Regards

Tejwant Singh

I am very much surprised by your answer.You want everything to be backed by verses of Guru granth sahib.It is just a common sense that if the sikh panth dies then spirituality of Guru granth sahib will be gone.Imagine if khalsa sikhs instead of fighting muslims used some kind of logic and converted themselves to sufi islam then There would be have been no Guru granth sahib to us.