Sign Up |  Live StatsLive Stats    Articles 39,007| Comments 192,137| Members 20,127, Newest gurcharansinghlamba| Online 316
Home Contact
 (Forgotten?): 
    Sikhism
    For best SPN experience, use Firefox Internet Browser!


                                                                   Your Banner Here!    




Click Here to Register/Sign Up Daily Hukamnama Member Blogs Downloads Website Navigation Help Fonts Tags
Sikh Philosophy Network » Sikh Philosophy Network » Hard Talk » Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

Our Donation Goal : Why Donate? : Donate Today! : Donate Anonymously (ਗੁਪਤ) : Our Family of Supporters
Goal this month: 300 USD, Received: 0 USD (0%)
Please Donate...
       

Tags
curse, female, foeticide, history
Reply Post New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-Aug-2009, 00:19 AM
Archived_Member16's Avatar Archived_Member16 Archived_Member16 is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 7th, 2005
Location: Metro-Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Posts: 3,455
Archived_Member16 is a name known to all
Archived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to all
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Liked 3,760 Times in 1,640 Posts
    Nationality: Canada
Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

  Donate Today!   Email to Friend  Tell a Friend   Show Printable Version  Print   Contact sikhphilosophy.net Administraion for any Suggestions, Ideas, Feedback.  Feedback  

Register to Remove Advertisements
Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

By KHUSHWANT SINGH

Long ago, girls were killed to protect them from Muslim invaders. Now, it's dowry.

Punjab has a long history of doing away with newborn girls. The preferred method today is foeticide after a sex determination test, but centuries ago the practice was to bury them. This tradition perhaps goes back to the days of repeated invasions by Muslim armies from the northwest, who used to carry off girls as booty for their own pleasure or to be sold in the slave markets of the Middle East. Today, it is the extortionate dowries that parents of girls have to provide upon marriage. The custom of polyandry in Punjab probably arose out of the shortage of girls - the eldest son of a family would take a wife, his younger brothers would also have access to her.

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/26160-female-foeticide-a-curse-of-history.html
One of Guru Nanak's oft quoted hymns condemns the denigration of women: 'We are born of women and nurtured by them, we fall in love with them and they bear us sons and daughters. How can you belittle women who give birth to kings?' His words had little impact - the killing of newborn girls continued as before, though practised more among the land-owning zamindars than by the common folk.

At the end of the first Sikh war, when the British annexed half of the Sikh kingdom, the Sikh zamindars of the region met John Lawrence, who had been appointed commissioner, to confirm their land holdings. He insisted on their signing pledges that they would not bury lepers alive, refrain from burning widows and stop burying newborn girls. The zamindars protested, saying Lawrence had promised that the two sides would not interfere with each others' religious customs. Lawrence agreed that he had indeed done so, adding that British religious custom was to hang anyone who followed these practices. That put an end to sati and the murder of lepers, and though female infanticide was checked it probably continued surreptitiously.

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160
After Independence, and the passing of the Hindu Code Bill giving equal rights to inherit ancestral property to sons and daughters, things again took a turn for the worse with the murder of newborn girls gaining momentum, especially in propertied families. With medical science able to detect the sex of the child in the womb, the practice has become much more widespread, resulting in a situation today where the ratio of females to males in Punjab is the lowest in the country.

Religious leaders and institutions like the S.G.P.C. and the Akal Takht make only feeble attempts to put down this criminal practice and their efforts have failed miserably. Kuree Maar (daughter-killer) is a common abuse in Punjab - an abuse that those who indulge in the practice have learnt to take in their stride.




Do you agree or disagree with the writer above? Why not share your immediate thoughts with us! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views... Gurfateh!
__________________
Prayer = TALKING to God; Meditation/Simran = LISTENING to God !
With the Divine Love & Blessings of WAHEGURU Ji, I wish you peace, love, light (enlightenment), health & happiness in life!
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate Archived_Member16 Ji for the above message.
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-Aug-2009, 01:56 AM
Narayanjot Kaur's Avatar Narayanjot Kaur Narayanjot Kaur is offline
SPN Sewadaar
 
Enrolled: Dec 3rd, 2006
Location: Chester PA
Posts: 3,295
Narayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to behold
Narayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to behold
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Blog Entries: 1
Liked 6,770 Times in 3,514 Posts
    Nationality: United States
Re: Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

We have suspicion of Kuree Maar (daughter-killer) (and grandchild killer) right within the SGPC itself. So it will be an uphill battle on this issue.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160

Thank you
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-Aug-2009, 04:51 AM
Archived_Member16's Avatar Archived_Member16 Archived_Member16 is offline
 
Enrolled: Jan 7th, 2005
Location: Metro-Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Posts: 3,455
Archived_Member16 is a name known to all
Archived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to allArchived_Member16 is a name known to all
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Liked 3,760 Times in 1,640 Posts
    Nationality: Canada
Re: Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

Narayanjot Kaur Ji:

Their motto has been: "Do what we say, not what we do !"
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate Archived_Member16 Ji for the above message.
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-Aug-2009, 05:37 AM
Mai Harinder Kaur's Avatar Mai Harinder Kaur Mai Harinder Kaur is offline
 
Enrolled: Oct 6th, 2006
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 1,765
Mai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really nice
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Blog Entries: 1
Liked 2,774 Times in 1,161 Posts
    Nationality: Canada
Re: Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

The Sikh Reht Maryada (SRM) could not be clearer. Section Four, Chapter X ( Living in Consonance with Guru's Tenets (Gurmat Rehni), Article XVI
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160

states point-blank:

l. A Sikh should not kill his daughter; nor should he maintain any relationship with a killer of daughter.

Daughter-killing is an evil, barbaric practice, which I consider the single greatest danger facing the Sikh nation today. I believe Guru ji will save us from from extermination from outside forces. I do not believe Guru ji will save us from ourselves.

As to dowry, Article XVIII of the SRM states:

l. No Sikh should accept a match for his/her son or daughter for monetary consideration.

That seems clear enough to me. If these were followed, along with the hukamnama regarding not having lavish weddings, there would be no substantial financial excuse for any Sikh to kill his/her daughter, whether before or after birth.

So much for the technicalities and legalisms
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160

Although I respect the institution of the SGPC (sort of), I have no respect for its current membership. Frankly, I believe there are many antiPanthic practices the individual members indulge in. I try to keep up on the news about such matters. We are Sikhs. This is our institution. It is our responsibility to clean it up. Let's get busy, jis!

Chardi kala!

Mai
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-Aug-2009, 05:43 AM
Narayanjot Kaur's Avatar Narayanjot Kaur Narayanjot Kaur is offline
SPN Sewadaar
 
Enrolled: Dec 3rd, 2006
Location: Chester PA
Posts: 3,295
Narayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to behold
Narayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to behold
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Blog Entries: 1
Liked 6,770 Times in 3,514 Posts
    Nationality: United States
Re: Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

Now on another thread it is stated that the claim that Punjab leads in female foeticide is a myth - Here is the link. http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interf...k-punjabi.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160

In all fairness both sides of the story should be heard.

How does this difference of views from one media or government agency to the other get sorted out? And does, at the end of the day, make a difference whether Punjab is in the lead or not?

What are our thoughts on this?
Reply With Quote
The following member appreciates Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message.
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-Aug-2009, 06:13 AM
Admin Singh's Avatar Admin Singh Admin Singh is offline
 
Enrolled: Jun 1st, 2004
Location: Sikh Philosophy Network
Age: 39
Posts: 5,344
Admin Singh has disabled reputation
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Blog Entries: 4
Liked 4,492 Times in 2,031 Posts
   
Re: Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

I think there should be an Independent International Monitoring Authority governing and gathering such statistics in an unbiased way with out Government intervention... perhaps asking for the impossible...
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate Admin Singh Ji for the above message.
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 08-Aug-2009, 06:20 AM
Narayanjot Kaur's Avatar Narayanjot Kaur Narayanjot Kaur is offline
SPN Sewadaar
 
Enrolled: Dec 3rd, 2006
Location: Chester PA
Posts: 3,295
Narayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to behold
Narayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to beholdNarayanjot Kaur is a splendid one to behold
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Blog Entries: 1
Liked 6,770 Times in 3,514 Posts
    Nationality: United States
Re: Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

Aman ji

I don't know how either. But whether Punjab leads or not, the population differential of males to females is suspicious -- unless those figures are also false.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160

How does UNESCO gather data about the medical status of people worldwide. That I don't know the answer to. Is the information gathered by governments and fed to UNESCO or is is gathered independently? Does anyone know?
Reply With Quote
The following members appreciate Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message.
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-Aug-2009, 06:33 AM
Mai Harinder Kaur's Avatar Mai Harinder Kaur Mai Harinder Kaur is offline
 
Enrolled: Oct 6th, 2006
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 1,765
Mai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really niceMai Harinder Kaur is just really nice
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Blog Entries: 1
Liked 2,774 Times in 1,161 Posts
    Nationality: Canada
Re: Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

I remember reading back in the 1970s a psychological report that said that one of the surest ways to drive people into insanity is to lie to them systematically until they no longer have any sense of what is truth and what is lie.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160

The GOI isn't stupid.

Am I the only one whose head is swimming in six directions at this point?

Chardi kala! (We need that bow!)
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26160

Mai
Reply With Quote
The following member appreciates Mai Harinder Kaur Ji for the above message.
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 25-Sep-2011, 11:47 AM
yadwinder kaur's Avatar yadwinder kaur yadwinder kaur is offline
 
Enrolled: Sep 25th, 2011
Posts: 1
yadwinder kaur is an unknown quantity at this point
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Nationality: India
Re: Female Foeticide: A Curse of History

  Donate Today!  
Reply With Quote
   Click Here to Donate Now!
Related Topics...
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Deserted NRI brides advocate female foeticide Archived_Member16 Hard Talk 2 11-Nov-2009 10:37 AM
Campaign in Punjab against female foeticide (New Kerala) Sikh News Reporter Sikh News 0 01-Apr-2008 11:13 AM
Campaign in Punjab against female foeticide (Calcutta News) Sikh News Reporter Sikh News 0 01-Apr-2008 09:30 AM
End female foeticide Archived_Member16 Hard Talk 2 23-Dec-2007 10:05 AM
New female foeticide study kds1980 Controversies 0 18-Dec-2006 13:06 PM


Support Us!
Become a Promoter!
Gurfateh ji, you can become a SPN Promoter by Donating as little as $10 each month. With limited resources & high operational costs, your donations make it possible for us to deliver a quality website and spread the teachings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to serve & uplift humanity. Every contribution counts. Donate Generously. Gurfateh!
ReplyPost New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Active Discussions
GGS being burnt
Today 09:06 AM
43 Replies, 922 Views
Can I wear a Dumalla
By Akasha
Today 03:13 AM
12 Replies, 309 Views
Do you wear Kara?
30-Sep-2014 23:01 PM
5 Replies, 3,534 Views
Thought of the Moment!
30-Sep-2014 22:12 PM
320 Replies, 33,692 Views
09-11-2014
28-Sep-2014 12:33 PM
3 Replies, 858 Views
Antim Ardass - Ritual or...
27-Sep-2014 07:41 AM
7 Replies, 1,910 Views
Can we ever see Sri Guru...
26-Sep-2014 19:05 PM
65 Replies, 1,800 Views
Nice Punjabi Songs with...
26-Sep-2014 10:04 AM
44 Replies, 3,227 Views
US based EcoSikh urges...
23-Sep-2014 11:35 AM
0 Replies, 125 Views
Why are we not allowed...
23-Sep-2014 11:31 AM
365 Replies, 46,490 Views
Bhai Guriqbal Singh -...
21-Sep-2014 21:07 PM
53 Replies, 13,903 Views
Sikh basketball players...
By Abneet
21-Sep-2014 07:28 AM
8 Replies, 726 Views
How Many Sikhs Have...
By Abneet
19-Sep-2014 09:27 AM
704 Replies, 66,122 Views
Wikipedia's Article on...
By Ishna
18-Sep-2014 07:37 AM
0 Replies, 192 Views
Want to see a Punjabi...
17-Sep-2014 12:21 PM
1 Replies, 218 Views
» Books You Should Read...
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 13:54 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 Copyright 2004-2015, All Rights Reserved. Sikh Philosophy Network


Page generated in 0.51201 seconds with 33 queries