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| | | | | Education: The Only Survival for Sikhi The only solution to save our Sikhi from disaster is EDUCATION. When the clergy of the Takhats is uneducated academically, intellectually and from the Gurmat view point then what is bred is ego and me-ism where if anyone bats an eye and questions and challenges the set traditions which contradict Gurmat and the teachings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, he/she Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-talk/23894-education-the-only-survival-for-sikhi.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894
becomes an outcast and is stoned in a metaphorical sense.
In order to keep our Sikhi house in order the first prerequisite should be that at least all Jathedaars of the Takhats and head Granthis of the Gurdwaras, starting from Harmader Sahib should have Phd in Gurmat studies and fluency in English.
Just memorsing the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and parroting it not only an insult to our Gurus but to Sikhi.
Only educated clergy can modify the SRM to its present needs. Then only SRM can become a flowing document which can be adapted with the changes that time and the understanding of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji requires.
Now the question arises HOW to sow the seeds of all this so the future generations can reap and savour the true Sikhi fruit?
Tejwant Singh
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23-Jan-2009, 06:41 AM
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| | | | | re: Education: The Only Survival for Sikhi VaheguruSeekr ji
It will be very interesting to see what responses you receive. Not just here in the forum --- but let's say you float this idea in other venues. What do you think the response will be?  I don't know about the need for a Ph.D. -- but some level of formal training in Sikh philosophy and theology would seem right. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894
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23-Jan-2009, 22:27 PM
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| | | | | re: Education: The Only Survival for Sikhi Tejwant Singh Jio, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894
Gurfateh.
I agree with Antonia Ji's suggestion above. It would be useful to place the SPN Community into the loop....maybe you can compile all the emails you send me (and others) on the subjects of Education/Miracles/reincarnation/84 lakh joons etc etc...so that more enlightened souls on SPN can really benefit from your knowledge. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894
We are all well into our age...lets use the remaining time to get our ideas across before we get the Call..Ghalleh ayeh nanaka Saddeh utth jayeh....and take all that with us...it would be such a loss to the Youth who need all the guidance they can get.
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23-Jan-2009, 23:12 PM
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| | | | | re: Education: The Only Survival for Sikhi Giani Jarnail Singh ji, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894
Guru Fateh.
Excellent idea. In fact this is one of those emails that I have posted it here. In doing what you have requested, I would need your help if you do not mind. Please email me and help me sort out the emails that you would think would benefit this beautiful, new, curious, always open to learn paneeri. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894
Thanks and Regards.
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24-Jan-2009, 09:33 AM
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| | | | | re: Education: The Only Survival for Sikhi Guru Piayario Jio,
gurfateh.
Will do that asap. Just give me a day or two.
2. BTW the "cross-posting" bamboo curtain the mods are hiding behind...is an euphermism for.... We are EXCLUSIVE...post ONLY to US...and thus FORCE others to join our membership by EXCLUDING all others from the posts.
Exact same attitude of DOG IN THE MANGER that we often see in the GURDWARAS...every Committee of every Gurdwara wants the "members" to ONLY use OUR Granthi..OUR Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji BIR (GOLUCK)...etc..etc.... Even if a memeber has his own copy of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji at his home...( GRUDGINGLY....its OK then.) .....BUT please do send the GOLUCK to US....after all its the Goluck that we really want !! Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894
3. Instead of clicking on the CC button..click on the BCC button....in that case the CC remains HIDDEN.......and your friends Emails remain PRIVATE ( its not beyond some to STEAL such email addresses and then send them INVITATIONS/or forcibly ENROLL them as Members !! EK panth do kaaj !! As a matter of Principle i REFuSE to be a memeber of any biased Forum no matter what its "name" may suggest about Gurmatt/Sikhi Learning  etc. | 
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| | | | | re: Education: The Only Survival for Sikhi Quote:
Originally Posted by aad0002 VaheguruSeekr ji
It will be very interesting to see what responses you receive. Not just here in the forum --- but let's say you float this idea in other venues. What do you think the response will be?  I don't know about the need for a Ph.D. -- but some level of formal training in Sikh philosophy and theology would seem right.
And do you think politics would leave the arena? Or would politics remain but become subtler, crafty? HMMM  Maybe harder to spot right off? Maybe more difficult to face down in the breach? | Antonia ji,
By Phd, I did not mean, Passed Highschool with Difficulty. | 
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Originally Posted by VaheguruSeekr Antonia ji,
By Phd, I did not mean, Passed Highschool with Difficulty.  | VaheguruSeekr ji -- Very funny  There is nothing I can say to that! | 
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| | | | | re: Education: The Only Survival for Sikhi Dear Tejwant Singh, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894
Yes education , but what kind of education ? Gurbani gives us examples of educated people.
1) Fools are the educated who have greed, temptation and ego. Vaar Majh M-1 GGS-140
2) Deers, eagles and touts, if trained/educated , bring their own community to the trap.waar malhar M-1 GGS-1288
3) You will be in high spirits,all the day-long ,if you sit near the educated who think over good and evil and reject the falsehood. M-2 GGS-146 Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23894
Please note the difference .There are so many such Holy-sayings in Gurbani
A) I don't know a single institute which gives Gurmat education alongwith acadmic degrees. Please tell me if you know one !
B) Are the academic degree holders ready to be a devotional granthy ? if so
C) Is it possible that the koor-pardhani system will allow them to serve the Satguru and not the management/employers ?
The subject is great and must be completed and followed.
with regards, dass
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