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Old 23-Apr-2007, 16:18 PM
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I was at the mela myself. Whilst we was expecting trouble from the Pakistani Muslim youth, who were sending threats during the week leading up to this event, it was obvious they didn't need to show up as our people were too busy fighting between ourselves. It comes down to Gurdwara politics, as the elections take place at Smethwick High Street Gurdwara next week. Very sad.

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By Anna Jeys, Birmingham Mail

A MAN was today fighting for life in hospital after being stabbed as Vaisakhi celebrations in Birmingham erupted into violence.

More than a dozen other people were also injured in the trouble which began in Handsworth Park and spread to surrounding streets.
A fleet of nine ambulances were sent to scene, and paramedics gave first aid to victims as the violence continued for more than four hours yesterday.
One motorcyclist paramedic had to be escorted from the park after being intimidated by a gang and in a separate incident an ambulance was left with its rear lights smashed.
Police were forced to close the park, in Holly Road, and surrounding roads and urged people to stay away from the area.


The violence started at 3pm and the ambulance service was still receiving 999 calls more than four hours later.

The stabbed man, who has not been named but is in his mid 50s, was today critically ill in hospital.

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The other victims were treated at hospitals across the city. Their injuries are not believed to be life-threatening.

Today, an investigation involving the police and organisers was under way into what went wrong at the normally peaceful event.

An ambulance service spokesman said: "There is no doubt that this was a difficult incident for all of the crews, but they did an excellent job providing care to a range of injuries ranging from minor to severe.

"We would like to pay credit to a number of police officers who came across a man with an arterial bleed and who had lost a large quantity of blood.

"They applied a pressure dressing to stem the blood loss until the ambulance staff could get to the man."
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I consider Vasakhi as one of the most spiritual events in the Sikh annals ! But due to lack of religious/spiritual knowledge and practice of teachings of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, we use "josh" (brawn) instead of "hosh" (brain) ! Common sense is not too common these days !
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Through regular naam simran a Sikh learns to control: anger, lust, greed, worldly attachments & ego ! Alas most of us do not have the time for meditation and thus WALK the spiritual path, instead of TALKING the path !

Unfortunately all our religious functions have become mere social events, rather than spiritual and religious events to renew our commitments to the Sikh way of life ! Our religious /spiritual leaders have not only failed us, but our new generations too ! Our new generations are going to pay a very heavy price for survival in this era of Kaljug ! These days politics take precedence over religion at all levels.

The solution is to return to the basic teachings of Sikism as taught by our Gurus as per Guru Granth Sahib Ji ! Setting a personal example would be a great start .
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its sad.. see what is religion doing? so tragic..
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its sad.. see what is religion doing? so tragic..
Respected Saadh Sangat Ji ,

it is the wrong use of Religion- not the religion itself is doing anything wrong.

forgive me please
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Gur Fateh Cheema Madam

yes.. even the poison can not kill us by itself.. u r rite ji.. sorry for the mistake.. but who has made this religion thing? us..

by saying.. what the religion is doing.. i mean.. that God and religion are two different things.. and its okay if u believe dat God is there.. but i dont think any kind of religious limitations are doing ANY good..

bhull chukk maaf karna..

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it is the wrong use of Religion- not the religion itself is doing anything wrong.

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Gur Fateh Cheema Madam

yes.. even the poison can not kill us by itself.. u r rite ji.. sorry for the mistake.. but who has made this religion thing? us..

by saying.. what the religion is doing.. i mean.. that God and religion are two different things.. and its okay if u believe dat God is there.. but i dont think any kind of religious limitations are doing ANY good..

bhull chukk maaf karna..

Simmy.
IS ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM GOD OR NOT GOD, RESPECTED SIMMY JI

forgive me please
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i understand what you are trying to say... kindly try to come to terms to my question that it is not GOD who tells us to fight with each other...

it is not GOD who tells us go and kill that person because he is a SIKH or a MUSLIM

it is not GOD who commands us to throw filth at each other only because we preach a different deity...

that is why i am saying GOD and RELIGION are two different things. i do not support this view that GOD in any form lives in THIS KIND OF A RELIGION which presses to kill somebody..

that was the only thing i was trying to say.. thanks for making me think deeply and find out the correct words to express what i feel exactly.

Bhull Chukk Maaf Karna...

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i understand what you are trying to say... kindly try to come to terms to my question that it is not GOD who tells us to fight with each other...

it is not GOD who tells us go and kill that person because he is a SIKH or a MUSLIM

it is not GOD who commands us to throw filth at each other only because we preach a different deity...

that is why i am saying GOD and RELIGION are two different things. i do not support this view that GOD in any form lives in THIS KIND OF A RELIGION which presses to kill somebody..

that was the only thing i was trying to say.. thanks for making me think deeply and find out the correct words to express what i feel exactly.

Bhull Chukk Maaf Karna...
This fight wasn't between Muslims and Sikhs, it was between Sikhs and Sikhs!!
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