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Waheguru ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru ji ki Fateh

I thank Guru Saheb for introducing me to His faithful Sikh. Rare are those who miss Sangat which is obtained through the blessings of Guru Saheb. Still rare are those who seek advice from Sangat. May Guru Maharaj bless you the strength and courage to stick to the Truth.

ਹਰਿ ਜਨ ਕੇ ਵਡ ਭਾਗ ਵਡੇਰੇ ਜਿਨ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸਰਧਾ ਹਰਿ ਪਿਆਸ ॥
Fortunate are those who have faith and longing for Waheguru.

For the situation described by you, Gurbani advice is as follows

Judging

Remember, none is perfect. We should not find fault with others when Waheguru tolerates even the worst sinners.

ਅਕਿਰਤਘਣਾ ਨੋ ਪਾਲਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਦ ਬਖਸਿੰਦੁ ॥੪॥੧੩॥੮੩॥
Waheguru cherishes even the ungrateful for He is forever the Forgiver.

Humans are neither capable nor have the authority to judge others

ਹਮ ਨਹੀ ਚੰਗੇ ਬੁਰਾ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਇ ||
ਪ੍ਰਣਵਤਿ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਤਾਰੇ ਸੋਇ ॥੪॥੧॥੨॥
I am not good; no one is bad. Says Guru Nanak ji; He alone saves us

ਬੁਰਾ ਭਲਾ ਕਹੁ ਕਿਸ ਨੋ ਕਹੀਐ ਸਗਲੇ ਜੀਅ ਤੁਮ੍ਾਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
None can be termed good or bad, since all beings are children of Waheguru (Ang 383)

ਫਰੀਦਾ ਜੇ ਤੂ ਅਕਲਿ ਲਤੀਫੁ ਕਾਲੇ ਲਿਖੁ ਨ ਲੇਖ ॥
ਆਪਨੜੇ ਗਿਰੀਵਾਨ ਮਹਿ ਸਿਰੁ ਨੀਵਾਂ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਖੁ ॥੬॥
Fareed, if you have a keen understanding, then do not write anything adverse against anyone else. Searching within you will find numerous deficiencies in our own self. (Ang 1378)

Karam

Humanity is perplexed with theories of different religions. No one is able to appreciate the origin and definition of Karam and Supreme Karam

ਕਰਮੀ ਆਵੈ ਕਪੜਾ ਨਦਰੀ ਮੋਖੁ ਦੁਆਰੁ ॥
ਨਾਨਕ ਏਵੈ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਸਭੁ ਆਪੇ ਸਚਿਆਰੁ ॥੪॥
The physical body is obtained through the karma of past actions. Liberation is achieved through Waheguru’s Grace. (Ang 2)

ਕਰਮੀ ਸਹਜੁ ਨ ਊਪਜੈ ਵਿਣੁ ਸਹਜੈ ਸਹਸਾ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥
ਨਹ ਜਾਇ ਸਹਸਾ ਕਿਤੈ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਰਹੇ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਏ ॥
Intuitive poise (Sehaj) cannot be achieved through religious rituals. People have tried rituals but scepticism does not leave without Sehaj. (Ang 919)

Karam, the mainstay of Hindu philosophy is a booming business. Barring exception the whole
world of religions is engrossed in business.

ਕੋਟਿ ਮਧੇ ਕੋ ਵਿਰਲਾ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਹੋਰਿ ਸਗਲੇ ਬਿਉਹਾਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
From millions of devotees, hardly anyone serves Waheguru. All others are traders (Ang 495)


Force

You feel let down because some one has not heeded your advice. Gurbani refrain us from forcing our or Guru Saheb’s views on others. Every religion forces its followers to practice its code of conduct while Sikh Faith preaches self assertion.

ਆਖਣਿ ਜੋਰੁ ਚੁਪੈ ਨਹ ਜੋਰੁ ॥
ਜੋਰੁ ਨ ਮੰਗਣਿ ਦੇਣਿ ਨ ਜੋਰੁ ॥
ਜੋਰੁ ਨ ਜੀਵਣਿ ਮਰਣਿ ਨਹ ਜੋਰੁ ॥
ਜੋਰੁ ਨ ਰਾਜਿ ਮਾਲਿ ਮਨਿ ਸੋਰੁ ॥
ਜੋਰੁ ਨ ਸੁਰਤੀ ਗਿਆਨਿ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥
ਜੋਰੁ ਨ ਜੁਗਤੀ ਛੁਟੈ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ॥
ਜਿਸੁ ਹਥਿ ਜੋਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਵੇਖੈ ਸੋਇ ॥
ਨਾਨਕ ਉਤਮੁ ਨੀਚੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥੩੩॥
All powers are vested in Waheguru. Humans do not posses power to speak, keep silent, beg, give, live or die. They do not have the power to rule with wealth and occult mental powers. By themselves they are not capable of meditating nor do they posses knowledge for obtaining salvation. They are helpless in countering influence of maya and cycle of birth and death. Waheguru alone has all the Powers and provides them at His Will. People think some low and high but for Him all are equal. (Ang 7)

Sikh Faith believes in guiding and leaves the decision of implementing to the individual as Gurbani considers force as criminal

ਕਬੀਰ ਜੋਰੀ ਕੀਏ ਜੁਲਮੁ ਹੈ ਕਹਤਾ ਨਾਉ ਹਲਾਲੁ ॥ ਦਫਤਰਿ ਲੇਖਾ ਮਾਂਗੀਐ ਤਬ ਹੋਇਗੋ ਕਉਨੁ ਹਵਾਲੁ ॥੧੮੭॥
Kabeer ji says that using force is tyranny, even if the society calls it legal. Result of such actions will be known when people will be called to submit their account in Waheguru’s Court. (Ang 1374)

Gurbani educates people narrating advantages of following its teachings and disadvantages of depending on self intelligence. Force gives birth to tyrants, devils, terrorists etc.

Kalyug

Humanity is passing through the most difficult phase on this earth. Every one refuses to recognize Truth

ਜੋ ਭਲਾਈ ਸੋ ਬੁਰਾ ਜਾਨੈ ॥ ਸਾਚੁ ਕਹੈ ਸੋ ਬਿਖੈ ਸਮਾਨੈ ॥ ਜਾਣੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਜੀਤ ਅਰੁ ਹਾਰ ॥ ਇਹੁ ਵਲੇਵਾ ਸਾਕਤ ਸੰਸਾਰ ॥੨॥
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That which is for his own good, he thinks is evil. If someone tells him the truth, he looks upon that as poison. He cannot tell victory from defeat. This is the way of life in the world of the faithless cynic. (Ang 180)

ਜੇ ਕੋ ਸਤੁ ਕਰੇ ਸੋ ਛੀਜੈ ਤਪ ਘਰਿ ਤਪੁ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥ ਜੇ ਕੋ ਨਾਉ ਲਏ ਬਦਨਾਵੀ ਕਲਿ ਕੇ ਲਖਣ ਏਈ ॥੩॥
If someone practices Truth, he is frustrated; prosperity does not come to the home of the sincere. If someone chants the Lord's Name, he is scorned. These are the signs of Kali Yuga. (Ang 902)

Falsifying Truth has led to

ਕਲੀ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਜਿੰਨਾਂ ਦਾ ਅਉਤਾਰੁ ॥ ਪੁਤੁ ਜਿਨੂਰਾ ਧੀਅ ਜਿੰਨੂਰੀ ਜੋਰੂ ਜਿੰਨਾ ਦਾ ਸਿਕਦਾਰੁ ॥੧॥
Guru ji says that those taking birth in Kalyug are demons; son and daughter are demons while their mother is the chief of the demons. (Ang 556)

Destiny

We cannot educate nor will any one accept our advice. They deserve pity because Waheguru Himself strips the violators of their elite privilege.

ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਆਪਿ ਖੁਆਏ ਕਰਤਾ ਖੁਸਿ ਲਏ ਚੰਗਿਆਈ ॥੩॥ Those whom the Creator would destroy - first He strips them of virtue. (Ang 417)

ਜਿਸੁ ਆਪਿ ਭੁਲਾਏ ਸੁ ਕਿਥੈ ਹਥੁ ਪਾਏ ॥ Those whom Waheguru Himself misleads-whose hand can they hold? (Ang 110)


Arguments

It is wise to avoid arguments as they lead to quarrel

ਮੰਦਾ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਆਖਿ ਝਗੜਾ ਪਾਵਣਾ ॥ Do not speak ill of others, or get involved in arguments. (Ang 566)

ਹਉਮੈ ਝਗੜਾ ਪਾਇਓਨੁ ਝਗੜੈ ਜਗੁ ਮੁਇਆ ॥ Through egotism, the world is caught in conflict and strife, and it dies. (Ang 790)

ਅੰਧਾ ਝਗੜਾ ਅੰਧੀ ਸਥੈ ॥੧॥ The blind (devoid of knowledge) assembly argues in blindness. (Ang 1241)

ਝਖਿ ਝਖਿ ਝਖਣਾ ਝਗੜਾ ਝਾਖ ॥ It is useless to worry and struggle to death.(1243)

Truth

Gurbani mentions of Only One Waheguru and One Dharam.

Word Dharam is made of two words; Dhar + Um or Rum
a) Dhar means Abode.
b) Um or Rum means Omnipresent

So the True meaning of Dharam is The Abode of Waheguru, which is always One.

Gurbani describes One Dharam as

ਏਕੋ ਧਰਮੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜੈ ਸਚੁ ਕੋਈ ॥ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਪੂਰਾ ਜੁਗਿ ਜੁਗਿ ਸੋਈ ॥
There is only one Dharma; let everyone grasp this truth. In all the Yugs, One becomes perfect only through Guru's Teachings. (Ang 1188)

Remember the Truth; there is One Akal Purkh, One Guru – Gurbani, One Dharam and One Karam (Nirmal Karam). Other confusions are created by humans.

ਸਰਬ ਧਰਮ ਮਹਿ ਸ੍ਰੇਸਟ ਧਰਮੁ ॥ ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਕਰਮੁ ॥
Of all religions, the True Religion is chanting Naam and practicing the sublime ritual of pure conduct. (Ang 266)

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਬਿਨਾ ਹੋਰ ਕਚੀ ਹੈ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ਬਾਣੀ ਤ ਕਚੀ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਬਾਝਹੁ ਹੋਰ ਕਚੀ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ਕਹਦੇ ਕਚੇ ਸੁਣਦੇ ਕਚੇ ਕਚਂੀ ਆਖਿ ਵਖਾਣੀ ॥
Except the True Guru, all other writings are incomplete. Except for the True Guru all other sayings are incomplete. Incomplete are the preachers, listeners and those who describe them. (Ang 920)


Wisdom

Experience teaches that

ਜਿਥੈ ਬੋਲਣਿ ਹਾਰੀਐ ਤਿਥੈ ਚੰਗੀ ਚੁਪ ॥੨॥
Where you are bound to lose by speaking, there, you ought to remain silent. (Ang 149)

ਮੰਦਾ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਆਖੀਐ ਪੜਿ ਅਖਰੁ ਏਹੋ ਬੁਝੀਐ ॥ ਮੂਰਖੈ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਲੁਝੀਐ ॥੧੯॥
Learn from Gurbani not to call anyone bad. Do not argue with fools. (473)

Don ot discuss Gurbani with those who do not value Truth

ਵਿਣੁ ਗਾਹਕ ਗੁਣੁ ਵੇਚੀਐ ਤਉ ਗੁਣੁ ਸਹਘੋ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਗੁਣ ਕਾ ਗਾਹਕੁ ਜੇ ਮਿਲੈ ਤਉ ਗੁਣੁ ਲਾਖ ਵਿਕਾਇ ॥
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36409
If virtue is sold when there is no buyer, then it is sold very cheap. But if one meets a buyer of virtue, then virtue sells for hundreds of thousands. (Ang 1086)


Do not express wisdom even achieving it

ਮਨ ਤੂੰ ਮਤ ਮਾਣੁ ਕਰਹਿ ਜਿ ਹਉ ਕਿਛੁ ਜਾਣਦਾ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਿਮਾਣਾ ਹੋਹੁ ॥
O mind, don't be so proud of yourself, as if you know it all; the Gurmukh is humble and modest. (Ang 441)

Even after knowing the Truth people still refuse to believe it

ਮਨ ਮਾਨੇ ਲੋਗੁ ਨ ਪਤੀਜੈ ॥ ਨ ਪਤੀਜੈ ਤਉ ਕਿਆ ਕੀਜੈ ॥੩॥੭॥
Though the mind of the believer in Waheguru is pleased and appeased, yet people do not believe it. What can be done if they still do not believe in One Waheguru. (Ang 656)

Ground Reality

Mind tuned to prevailing environment and daily routine for a long period does not accept changes easily. Knowledge alone will convince an individual to accept the change. Changes suggested by science are easily accepted but mind is extremely repulsive to any change in religious beliefs. Religious minded parents advice their children not to divert from their religion. Religious environment charged with deception and jealousy makes Truth difficult to prevail.

Chardikala

Guru ka Sikh is ever in Chardikala. Minor incidents in life should not disturb him. He should continue to seek Guru’s blessings to maintain poise in Gurbani

ਤੇਰੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਨ ਛੋਡਉ ਕਿਆ ਕੋ ਹਸੈ ॥
Waheguru, I shall not renounce You; so what if people laugh at me. (Ang 1170)

ਤੇਰੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਨ ਛੋਡਉ ਭਾਵੈ ਲੋਗੁ ਹਸੈ ॥
Waheguru, I shall not renounce You, even if the people laugh at me. (Ang 1195)

Sikh lives in Chardikala

ਨਾਨਕ ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਭੇਟਿਐ ਪੂਰੀ ਹੋਵੈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ॥ ਹਸੰਦਿਆ ਖੇਲੰਦਿਆ ਪੈਨੰਦਿਆ ਖਾਵੰਦਿਆ ਵਿਚੇ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੁਕਤਿ ॥੨॥
O Nanak, submitting to the True Guru one comes to know the method of merging in Waheguru while enjoying life; laughing, playing, dressing and eating. (Ang 522)

ਮਨਮੁਖ ਹਾਰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਸਦ ਜੀਤਿ ॥੪॥੧੬॥੧੮॥
Self-willed manmukhs will fail, while the Gurmukhs will always win. (Ang 867)

Finally pray for

ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਨ ਮੋਰ ॥ ਗੁਰੂ ਬਿਨਾ ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਹੋਰ ॥
ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਟੇਕ ਰਹਹੁ ਦਿਨੁ ਰਾਤਿ ॥ ਜਾ ਕੀ ਕੋਇ ਨ ਮੇਟੈ ਦਾਤਿ ॥੧॥
ਗੁਰੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਏਕੋ ਜਾਣੁ ॥ ਜੋ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Chant Guru, Guru, Guru, O my mind. I have no other than the Guru. I lean upon the Support of the Guru, day and night. No one can decrease His bounty. Know that the Guru and the Transcendent Waheguru are One. Whatever pleases Him is acceptable and approved. (Ang 864)


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Thanks for a nice post Kanwaljit Ji.
Gurbani is way above superficial "words"...
example ...Satgur kee seva safal hai...People and Ragis sing this tuk taking the superficial meanings of "seva" as just massaging the fet, serving langgar..washing plates utensils in Gurdwara etc etc...the PHYSICAL aspects of a HUMAN THINKING...and thus we find many ladies Massaging the WOODEN LEGS of the Palki/Manji sahib that has Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Parkash....to them its SATGUR sitting there under the Rumallahs ..and his "feet/legs" are the wooden poles of the Manji sahib/palki shaib !!!
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36409

SATGUR is made up of two words.... SAT ...meaning TRUTH...and GUR..meaning Gyaan/knolwedge...........and SEVA of SHABAD would have to be VICHAAR of the GYAAN of TRUTH.....Sat+GUR ki SEVA....and This VEECHAAR will be SAFAL (successful/fruitful" IF the Gyaan gained is IMPLEMENTED to change our daily LIFE !!...that is why its ..Je ko Kareh Man chit layeh....with Full concentration of the MIND...love from the bottom of the ehart etc.... On the other hand pressing the wooden legs of a manji leads to absolutely NO BENEFITS except the Manji leg may BREAK from too much massaging by too many people !!
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Are you serious? Who does that? Well I have seen people who do mathaa tek to Nishan Sahib, no idea about Akaal Takht guidance against it. And the same batch would keep on walking into Gurudwara during Hukamnama, they wouldn't care to sit down and listen attentively.
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re: How to Stop Judging and Arguing?

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Judging

Remember, none is perfect. We should not find fault with others when Waheguru tolerates even the worst sinners.

ਅਕਿਰਤਘਣਾ ਨੋ ਪਾਲਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਦ ਬਖਸਿੰਦੁ ॥੪॥੧੩॥੮੩॥
Waheguru cherishes even the ungrateful for He is forever the Forgiver.

Humans are neither capable nor have the authority to judge others
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36409

ਹਮ ਨਹੀ ਚੰਗੇ ਬੁਰਾ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਇ ||
ਪ੍ਰਣਵਤਿ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਤਾਰੇ ਸੋਇ ॥੪॥੧॥੨॥
I am not good; no one is bad. Says Guru Nanak ji; He alone saves us

ਬੁਰਾ ਭਲਾ ਕਹੁ ਕਿਸ ਨੋ ਕਹੀਐ ਸਗਲੇ ਜੀਅ ਤੁਮ੍ਾਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
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None can be termed good or bad, since all beings are children of Waheguru (Ang 383)

ਫਰੀਦਾ ਜੇ ਤੂ ਅਕਲਿ ਲਤੀਫੁ ਕਾਲੇ ਲਿਖੁ ਨ ਲੇਖ ॥
ਆਪਨੜੇ ਗਿਰੀਵਾਨ ਮਹਿ ਸਿਰੁ ਨੀਵਾਂ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਖੁ ॥੬॥
Fareed, if you have a keen understanding, then do not write anything adverse against anyone else. Searching within you will find numerous deficiencies in our own self. (Ang 1378)
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We all understand as we are led to understand... you can lead the horse to the water (of Truth) but you can't make him drink (only Guruji can)!
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Old 21-Jul-2011, 22:49 PM
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re: How to Stop Judging and Arguing?

I want to leave an admin note on this thread. For reference purposes only. These tuks, cited by Ishna ji and Kanwaljit ji, are not quoted with an entire shabad. Normally this is a forum violation and can result in automatic deletion. In this instance I am not going to delete the comment because they are an example of tuks that stand on their own feet and the context is not necessary. Angs were included, and that is good. However, if a fuller discussion of the tuks ensues, that means someone else wants to respond to ishna's or Kanwaljit's choices, that person will need to post the entire shabad so that we can follow his/her point of view. Thanks
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I only copy/pasted a section from the original article, I didn't add any new tuks on their own. I know it's a violation of forum guidelines and was just trying to point out what the lead article said about judging with regard to the two posts which followed.
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re: How to Stop Judging and Arguing?

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Are you serious? Who does that?

Well I have seen people who do mathaa tek to Nishan Sahib, no idea about Akaal Takht guidance against it.
Judging
And the same batch
Judging by generalizing
would keep on walking into Gurudwara during Hukamnama, they wouldn't care to sit down and listen attentively.
judging, perhaps they can listen better than those sitting
Easy advice and too much advice makes us vulnerable

I totally agree with spnadmin ji for complete shabads. There is a good opportunity in this thread to perhaps to dialog on each citation of the Gurbani as a complete shabad if you care to start. Doing all in one post I do believe would have been perhaps impractical.

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I only copy/pasted a section from the original article, I didn't add any new tuks on their own. I know it's a violation of forum guidelines and was just trying to point out what the lead article said about judging with regard to the two posts which followed.
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I realized that was the reason. No problem on your end. The only problem it created for me would be for others to think the one tuk solution was going to work. So I had a bit of a dilemma. Then realized that there was a work-around. Thank you for your sincerity.
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Easy advice and too much advice makes us vulnerable

I totally agree with spnadmin ji for complete shabads. There is a good opportunity in this thread to perhaps to dialog on each citation of the Gurbani as a complete shabad if you care to start. Doing all in one post I do believe would have been perhaps impractical.

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