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| | | | | God's Identity Literally the "Naam" means "God's Name" or "God's Identity".
Here are some viewpoints about God's identity AND you can add your views as well. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat-vichaar/21014-gods-identity.html God is Imaginary - 50 simple proofs *
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24-Apr-2008, 22:57 PM
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| | | | | Re: God's Identity ਰਾਜੰ ਰੰਗੰ ਰੂਪੰ ਮਾਲੰ ਜੋਬਨੁ ਤੇ ਜੂਆਰੀ ॥ राजं रंगं रूपं मालं जोबनु ते जूआरी ॥ Rājaʼn rangaʼn rūpaʼn mālaʼn joban ṯė jūārī. In power, pleasures, beauty, wealth and youth, one gambles his life away. ਹੁਕਮੀ ਬਾਧੇ ਪਾਸੈ ਖੇਲਹਿ ਚਉਪੜਿ ਏਕਾ ਸਾਰੀ ॥੪॥ हुकमी बाधे पासै खेलहि चउपड़ि एका सारी ॥४॥ Hukmī bāḏẖė pāsai kẖėleh cẖaupaṛ ėkā sārī. ||4|| Bound by the Hukam of God's Command, the dice are thrown; he is just a piece in the game of chess. ||4|| ਜਗਿ ਚਤੁਰੁ ਸਿਆਣਾ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਣਾ ਨਾਉ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਪੜਹਿ ਗਾਵਾਰੀ ॥ जगि चतुरु सिआणा भरमि भुलाणा नाउ पंडित पड़हि गावारी ॥ Jag cẖaṯur siāṇā bẖaram bẖulāṇā nāo pandiṯ paṛeh gāvārī. The world is clever and wise, but it is deluded by doubt, and forgets the Name; the Pandit, the religious scholar, studies the scriptures, but he is still a fool. ਨਾਉ ਵਿਸਾਰਹਿ ਬੇਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਹਿ ਬਿਖੁ ਭੂਲੇ ਲੇਖਾਰੀ ॥੫॥ नाउ विसारहि बेदु समालहि बिखु भूले लेखारी ॥५॥ Nāo visāreh bėḏ samāleh bikẖ bẖūlė lėkẖārī. ||5|| Forgetting the Name, he dwells upon the Vedas; he writes, but he is confused by his poisonous corruption. ||5|| ਕਲਰ ਖੇਤੀ ਤਰਵਰ ਕੰਠੇ ਬਾਗਾ ਪਹਿਰਹਿ ਕਜਲੁ ਝਰੈ ॥Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21014 कलर खेती तरवर कंठे बागा पहिरहि कजलु झरै ॥ Kalar kẖėṯī ṯarvar kanṯẖė bāgā pahirahi kajal jẖarai. He is like the crop planted in the salty soil, or the tree growing on the river bank, or the white clothes sprinkled with dirt. ਏਹੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ਤਿਸੈ ਕੀ ਕੋਠੀ ਜੋ ਪੈਸੈ ਸੋ ਗਰਬਿ ਜਰੈ ॥੬॥Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21014 एहु संसारु तिसै की कोठी जो पैसै सो गरबि जरै ॥६॥ Ėhu sansār ṯisai kī koṯẖī jo paisai so garab jarai. ||6|| This world is the house of desire; whoever enters it, is burnt down by egotistical pride. ||6|| ਰਯਤਿ ਰਾਜੇ ਕਹਾ ਸਬਾਏ ਦੁਹੁ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਸੋ ਜਾਸੀ ॥ रयति राजे कहा सबाए दुहु अंतरि सो जासी ॥ Rayaṯ rājė kahā sabāė ḏuhu anṯar so jāsī. Where are all the kings and their subjects? Those who are immersed in duality are destroyed. ਕਹਤ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਗੁਰ ਸਚੇ ਕੀ ਪਉੜੀ ਰਹਸੀ ਅਲਖੁ ਨਿਵਾਸੀ ॥੭॥੩॥੧੧॥ कहत नानकु गुर सचे की पउड़ी रहसी अलखु निवासी ॥७॥३॥११॥ Kahaṯ Nānak gur sacẖė kī paoṛī rahsī alakẖ nivāsī. ||7||3||11|| Says Nanak, these are the steps of the ladder, of the Teachings of the True Guru; only the Unseen Lord shall remain. ||7||3||11|| | 
24-Apr-2008, 23:01 PM
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| | | | | Re: God's Identity ਜੇਤਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਤੇਤਾ ਨਾਉ ॥ जेता कीता तेता नाउ ॥ Jėṯā kīṯā ṯėṯā nāo. The created universe is the manifestation of Your Name. Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok ਸਹਸ ਅਠਾਰਹ ਕਹਨਿ ਕਤੇਬਾ ਅਸੁਲੂ ਇਕੁ ਧਾਤੁ ॥
सहस अठारह कहनि कतेबा असुलू इकु धातु ॥ Sahas aṯẖārah kahan kaṯėbā asulū ik ḏẖāṯ. The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is only One Universe. Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok ਹੈ ਭੀ ਹੋਸੀ ਜਾਇ ਨ ਜਾਸੀ ਰਚਨਾ ਜਿਨਿ ਰਚਾਈ ॥
है भी होसी जाइ न जासी रचना जिनि रचाई ॥ Hai bẖī hosī jāė na jāsī racẖnā jin racẖāī. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21014 He is, and shall always be. He shall not depart, even when this Universe which He has created departs. Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok ਜਿਨਿ ਏਹੁ ਜਗਤੁ ਉਪਾਇਆ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣੁ ਕਰਿ ਆਕਾਰੁ ॥
जिनि एहु जगतु उपाइआ त्रिभवणु करि आकारु ॥ Jin ėhu jagaṯ upāiā ṯaribẖavaṇ kar ākār. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21014 The One who formed this universe created the creation of the three worlds. Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok | 
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| | | | | Re: God's Identity ਖੇਹੂ ਖੇਹ ਰਲਾਈਐ ਤਾ ਜੀਉ ਕੇਹਾ ਹੋਇ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21014 खेहू खेह रलाईऐ ता जीउ केहा होइ ॥ Kẖėhū kẖėh ralāīai ṯā jīo kėhā hoė. When the body mingles with dust, what happens to the soul? Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok ਕੀ ਨ ਸੁਣੇਹੀ ਗੋਰੀਏ ਆਪਣ ਕੰਨੀ ਸੋਇ ॥ की न सुणेही गोरीए आपण कंनी सोइ ॥ Kī na suṇėhī gorīė āpaṇ kannī soė. Haven't you heard the call from beyond, O beautiful soul-bride? Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok ਕਾਹੇ ਜੀਅ ਕਰਹਿ ਚਤੁਰਾਈ ॥ काहे जीअ करहि चतुराई ॥ Kāhė jīa karahi cẖaṯurāī. Why, O soul, do you try such clever tricks? Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21014 ਕਚੀ ਕੰਧ ਕਚਾ ਵਿਚਿ ਰਾਜੁ ॥ कची कंध कचा विचि राजु ॥ Kacẖī kanḏẖ kacẖā vicẖ rāj. The wall of the body is temporary, as is the soul-mason within it. Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok | 
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| | | | | Re: God's Identity ਆਸਾ ॥ आसा ॥
Āsā. Aasaa: ਰੋਜਾ ਧਰੈ ਮਨਾਵੈ ਅਲਹੁ ਸੁਆਦਤਿ ਜੀਅ ਸੰਘਾਰੈ ॥
रोजा धरै मनावै अलहु सुआदति जीअ संघारै ॥
Rojā ḏẖarai manāvai alhu suāḏaṯ jīa sangẖārai. You keep your fasts to please Allah, while you murder other beings for pleasure. ਆਪਾ ਦੇਖਿ ਅਵਰ ਨਹੀ ਦੇਖੈ ਕਾਹੇ ਕਉ ਝਖ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥
आपा देखि अवर नही देखै काहे कउ झख मारै ॥१॥
Āpā ḏėkẖ avar nahī ḏėkẖai kāhė kao jẖakẖ mārai. ||1|| You look after your own interests, and so not see the interests of others. What good is your word? ||1|| ਕਾਜੀ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਏਕੁ ਤੋਹੀ ਮਹਿ ਤੇਰਾ ਸੋਚਿ ਬਿਚਾਰਿ ਨ ਦੇਖੈ ॥ काजी साहिबु एकु तोही महि तेरा सोचि बिचारि न देखै ॥
Kājī sāhib ėk ṯohī meh ṯėrā socẖ bicẖār na ḏėkẖai. O Qazi, the One Lord is within you, but you do not behold Him by thought or contemplation. ਖਬਰਿ ਨ ਕਰਹਿ ਦੀਨ ਕੇ ਬਉਰੇ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਜਨਮੁ ਅਲੇਖੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
खबरि न करहि दीन के बउरे ता ते जनमु अलेखै ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Kẖabar na karahi ḏīn kė baurė ṯā ṯė janam alėkẖai. ||1|| rahāo. You do not care for others, you are a religious fanatic, and your life is of no account at all. ||1||Pause|| ਸਾਚੁ ਕਤੇਬ ਬਖਾਨੈ ਅਲਹੁ ਨਾਰਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਈ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21014 साचु कतेब बखानै अलहु नारि पुरखु नही कोई ॥
Sācẖ kaṯėb bakẖānai alhu nār purakẖ nahī koī. Your holy scriptures say that Allah is True, and that he is neither male nor female. ਪਢੇ ਗੁਨੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਛੁ ਬਉਰੇ ਜਉ ਦਿਲ ਮਹਿ ਖਬਰਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥੨॥
पढे गुने नाही कछु बउरे जउ दिल महि खबरि न होई ॥२॥
Padẖė gunė nāhī kacẖẖ baurė jao ḏil meh kẖabar na hoī. ||2|| But you gain nothing by reading and studying, O mad-man, if you do not gain the understanding in your heart. ||2|| ਅਲਹੁ ਗੈਬੁ ਸਗਲ ਘਟ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਲੇਹੁ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ॥
अलहु गैबु सगल घट भीतरि हिरदै लेहु बिचारी ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21014
Alhu gaib sagal gẖat bẖīṯar hirḏai lėho bicẖārī. Allah is hidden in every heart; reflect upon this in your mind. ਹਿੰਦੂ ਤੁਰਕ ਦੁਹੂੰ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੈ ਕਹੈ ਕਬੀਰ ਪੁਕਾਰੀ ॥੩॥੭॥੨੯॥
हिंदू तुरक दुहूं महि एकै कहै कबीर पुकारी ॥३॥७॥२९॥
Hinḏū ṯurak duhūaʼn meh ėkai kahai Kabīr pukārī. ||3||7||29|| The One Lord is within both Hindu and Muslim; Kabeer proclaims this out loud. ||3||7||29|| | 
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| | | | | Re: God's Identity I never really look for God's identity. I always believe that God is within us...within me. But as I read Hymns of Baba Nanak, and here what I found:
"After looking around in the four directions, I looked within my own self. There, I saw the True, Invisible Lord Creator. I was wandering in the wilderness, but now the Guru has shown me the Truth. I have found the jewel within the home of my own self; the lamp within has been lit. Those who praise the True Word of the Shabad, abide in the peace of Truth. But those who do not have the Fear of God, are overtaken by fear. They are destroyed by their own pride. Having forgotten the Name, the world is roaming around like a wild demon." | 
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