Technique Of Controlling Mind

Sikh80 ji

A thought that comes and goes with me. When we are so very intense about "controlling our mind"-- having to work so deliberately at it, are we not still under the control of "mind?" Is our mind trying to control our mind (itself). Which suggests that we are still trapped in duality.
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The shabads may be telling us to give up control. Intuitive ease an alternative.

 
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thir ghar baishu har jan pi-aaray.
Remain steady in the home of your own self, O beloved servant of the Lord.

satgur tumray kaaj savaaray. ||1|| rahaa-o.
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The True Guru shall resolve all your affairs. ||1||Pause||

dusat doot parmaysar maaray.
The Transcendent Lord has struck down the wicked and the evil.

jan kee paij rakhee kartaaray. ||1||
The Creator has preserved the honor of His servant. ||1||

baadisaah saah sabh vas kar deenay.
The kings and emperors are all under his power;

amrit naam mahaa ras peenay. ||2||
he drinks deeply of the most sublime essence of the Ambrosial Naam. ||2||

nirbha-o ho-ay bhajahu bhagvaan.
Meditate fearlessly on the Lord God.

saaDhsangat mil keeno daan. ||3||
Joining the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, this gift is given. ||3||

saran paray parabh antarjaamee.
Nanak has entered the Sanctuary of God, the Inner-knower, the Searcher of hearts;
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naanak ot pakree parabh su-aamee. ||4||108||
he grasps the Support of God, his Lord and Master. ||4||108||

Although not derived in a straight forward manner the answer of aad appears slightly cumbersome when she states controlling mind by mind.It is thought that it is the only method available with us.We have to control mind by mind. I do not understand as to where is duality in it. Would be grateful if it is explained and as to what is to be done.
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The second post of Naam jap ji is also quite interesting and appears to the point.However, the formula that I could debug is meditation on the Naam. I think by meditation /jap/simran we are deviating mind from the battalion of five to the word of simran. With long practice we can ,probably, by following the route control the mind.It shall also help relieving the ego.
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Add ji,
could you kindly clarify as to in which context have you stated that there is duality and what exactly is duality.

Hope I am correct. Kindly see namjap/aad ji.

beautiful aad ji


jit mein main hai
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tis mein "tu" naahi
Main ko main samjhoon
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tumko dekh na pavoon
jangal dhoondoon
ulta latkooon
karoon saadhnaa roz roz
tune banaya aisa putla
khud hi sochun, khud hi bhooloon
main ko main hi samajhna chahoon
main ko main hi rokna chahoon
tumko abtak janoon na
tune banaya aisa putla

amarsanghera ji,

Your choice of Bani is better than mine -- Bhagat Fareed sums up the problem as the Japanese would said "just so!"

It even reads a bit like a Zen koan -- but a long one -- a poem designed by the Zen monks of the past to stop thought -- so that there is a brief instant when the mind empties itself out. And in my case, long enough to let Something Else enter.

aad ji
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this is not from baba fareed

i just rambled a few words on my own

amarsanghera ji

Caught me!!!!!

There is a shabad in which the Seeker is wondering about hanging upside down. Anyway, good poem by you. One of my Punjabi friends also thought the author was Sheik Fareed. So maybe you have another future writing poetry.
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But, it was not Fareed but a line from Bhagat Kabir that I remembered.

jb ds mws aurD muK rhqw so idnu kYsy BUilAw ]1] rhwau ]
jab dhas maas ouradhh mukh rehathaa so dhin kaisae bhooliaa ||1|| rehaao ||
Have you forgotten those days, when you were hanging, face down, for ten months?

Have patience with me. I am still wet, my wings have not dried off, I cannot fly. Only months ago I was just a caterpillar in a cocoon.

yes

the tuk you mentioned is for the period person spends in mother's womb


and yes to your other point-

i used some similies as used by Baba fareed and Bulleh Shah



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tht is your graciousness to be so modest

What exactly is the meaning Of this Tuk.? One spends 9 months and not 10 in the womb.

aad ji
you have to answer the above.

mn mih mnUAw jy mrY qw ipru rwvY nwir ] (58-17, isrIrwgu, mÚ 1)
If the mind within the mind dies, then the Husband ravishes and enjoys His bride.
This is the second 'tuk' in support of the assertion that ultimately it is mind that mind has to control itself. Pl. explain the duality in this.What exactly do you mean by Duality in the context.?