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bRhm igAwnI kY eykY rMg ] (273-6, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai aykai rang.
The God-conscious being loves the One Lord alone.
bRhm igAwnI kY bsY pRBu sMg ] (273-6, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai basai parabh sang.
The God-conscious being dwells with God.
bRhm igAwnI kY nwmu AwDwru ] (273-7, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai naam aaDhaar.
The God-conscious being takes the Naam as his Support.
bRhm igAwnI kY nwmu prvwru ] (273-7, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
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barahm gi-aanee kai naam parvaar.
The God-conscious being has the Naam as his Family.
bRhm igAwnI sdw sd jwgq ] (273-7, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee sadaa sad jaagat.
The God-conscious being is awake and aware, forever and ever.
bRhm igAwnI AhMbuiD iqAwgq ] (273-8, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee ahaN-buDh ti-aagat.
The God-conscious being renounces his proud ego.
bRhm igAwnI kY min prmwnµd ] (273-8, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai man parmaanand.
In the mind of the God-conscious being, there is supreme bliss.
bRhm igAwnI kY Gir sdw Anµd ] (273-8, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai ghar sadaa anand.
In the home of the God-conscious being, there is everlasting bliss.
bRhm igAwnI suK shj invws ] (273-9, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee sukh sahj nivaas.
The God-conscious being dwells in peaceful ease.
nwnk bRhm igAwnI kw nhI ibnws ]5] (273-9, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
naanak barahm gi-aanee kaa nahee binaas. ||5||
O Nanak, the God-conscious being shall never perish. ||5||
bRhm igAwnI bRhm kw byqw ] (273-10, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee barahm kaa baytaa.
The God-conscious being knows God.
bRhm igAwnI eyk sMig hyqw ] (273-10, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
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barahm gi-aanee ayk sang haytaa.
The God-conscious being is in love with the One alone.
bRhm igAwnI kY hoie AicMq ] (273-10, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai ho-ay achint.
The God-conscious being is carefree.
bRhm igAwnI kw inrml mMq ] (273-10, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kaa nirmal mant.
Pure are the Teachings of the God-conscious being.
bRhm igAwnI ijsu krY pRBu Awip ] (273-11, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee jis karai parabh aap.
The God-conscious being is made so by God Himself.
bRhm igAwnI kw bf prqwp ] (273-11, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kaa bad partaap.
The God-conscious being is gloriously great.
bRhm igAwnI kw drsu bfBwgI pweIAY ] (273-12, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kaa daras badbhaagee paa-ee-ai.
The Darshan, the Blessed Vision of the God-conscious being, is obtained by great good fortune.
bRhm igAwnI kau bil bil jweIAY ] (273-12, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee ka-o bal bal jaa-ee-ai.
To the God-conscious being, I make my life a sacrifice.
bRhm igAwnI kau Kojih mhysur ] (273-12, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee ka-o khojeh mahaysur.
The God-conscious being is sought by the great god Shiva.
nwnk bRhm igAwnI Awip prmysur ]6] (273-13, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
naanak barahm gi-aanee aap parmaysur. ||6||
O Nanak, the God-conscious being is Himself the Supreme Lord God. ||6|| Gurmukhi- bRhmigAwnI dy ihrdy ivc (sdw) iek Akwl purK dw ipAwr (v`sdw hY), (qwhIeyN) pRBU bRhmigAwnI dy AMg-sMg rihMdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dy mn ivc (pRBU dw) nwm (hI) tyk hY Aqy nwm hI aus dw prvwr hY [
bRhmigAwnI sdw (ivkwrW dy hmly vloN) sucyq rihMdw hY, Aqy ‘mYN mYN’ krn vwlI m`q C`f dyNdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dy mn ivc au~cy suK dw mwlk Akwl purK v`sdw hY, (qwhIeyN) aus dy ihrdy-rUp Gr ivc sdw ^uSI iKVwE hY [
bRhmigAwnI (mnu`K) suK qy SWqI ivc itikAw rihMdw hY; (qy) hy nwnk! bRhmigAwnI (dI ies au~cI Awqmk AvsQw) dw kdy nws nhIN huMdw [5[
bRhmigAwnI (mnu`K) Akwl purK dw mhrm bx jWdw hY Aqy auh iek pRBU nwl hI ipAwr krdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dy mn ivc (sdw) byi&krI rihMdI hY, aus dw aupdyS (BI hornW ƒ) pivqR krn vwlw huMdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dw bVw nwmxw ho jWdw hY (pr auhI mnu`K bRhmigAwnI bxdw hY) ijs ƒ pRBU Awp bxwauNdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dw dIdwr v`fy BwgW nwl pweIdw hY; bRhmigAwnI qoN sdw sdky jweIey [
iSv (Awidk dyvqy BI) bRhmigAwnI ƒ Bwldy iPrdy hn; hy nwnk! Akwl purK Awp bRhmigAwnI (dw rUp) hY [6[
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10-Jan-2008, 16:36 PM
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brahmgyani aap parmeshwar.
Every time I read Sukhmani Sahib it makes my belief on 'God is All and All is God' stronger than before. It touches my heart. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113
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29-Jan-2008, 12:50 PM
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30-Jan-2008, 08:42 AM
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bRhm igAwnI kI kImiq nwih ] bRhm igAwnI kY sgl mn mwih ] bRhm igAwnI kw kaun jwnY Bydu ] bRhm igAwnI kau sdw Adysu ]Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113 bRhm igAwnI kw kiQAw n jwie ADwK´ru ] bRhm igAwnI srb kw Twkuru ] bRhm igAwnI kI imiq kaunu bKwnY ] bRhm igAwnI kI giq bRhm igAwnI jwnY ] bRhm igAwnI kw AMqu n pwru ] nwnk bRhm igAwnI kau sdw nmskwru ]7] The God-conscious being cannot be appraised. The God-conscious being has all within his mind. Who can know the mystery of the God-conscious being? Forever bow to the God-conscious being. The God-conscious being cannot be described in words. The God-conscious being is the Lord and Master of all. Who can describe the limits of the God-conscious being? Only the God-conscious being can know the state of the God-conscious being. The God-conscious being has no end or limitation. O Nanak, to the God-conscious being, bow forever in reverence. ||7||
bRhm igAwnI sB isRsit kw krqw ]
bRhm igAwnI sd jIvY nhI mrqw ]
bRhm igAwnI mukiq jugiq jIA kw dwqw ]
bRhm igAwnI pUrn purKu ibDwqw ]
bRhm igAwnI AnwQ kw nwQu ]
bRhm igAwnI kw sB aUpir hwQu ]
bRhm igAwnI kw sgl Akwru ]
bRhm igAwnI Awip inrMkwru ]
bRhm igAwnI kI soBw bRhm igAwnI bnI ]
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nwnk bRhm igAwnI srb kw DnI ]8]8]
The God-conscious being is the Creator of all the world.
The God-conscious being lives forever, and does not die.
The God-conscious being is the Giver of the way of liberation of the soul.
The God-conscious being is the Perfect Supreme Being, who orchestrates all.
The God-conscious being is the helper of the helpless.
The God-conscious being extends his hand to all.
The God-conscious being owns the entire creation.
The God-conscious being is himself the Formless Lord.
The glory of the God-conscious being belongs to the God-conscious being alone.
O Nanak, the God-conscious being is the Lord of all. ||8||8||
bRhmigAwnI (dy guxW) dw mu`l nhIN pY skdw, swry hI (gux) bRhmigAwnI dy AMdr hn [ kyhVw mnu`K bRhmigAwnI (dI au~cI izMdgI) dw Byq pw skdw hY? bRhmigAwnI dy A`gy sdw inaUxw hI (P`bdw) hY [ bRhmigAwnI (dI mihmw) dw A`Dw A`Kr BI nhIN ikhw jw skdw; bRhmigAwnI swry (jIvW) dw pUjÎ hY [ bRhmigAwnI (dI au~cI izMdgI) dw AMdwzw kOx lw skdw hY? aus dI hwlq (aus vrgw) bRhmigAwnI hI jwxdw hY [ bRhmigAwnI (dy guxW dy smuMdr) dw koeI h`d bMnw nhIN; hy nwnk! sdw bRhmigAwnI dy crnW qy ipAw rhu [7[ bRhmigAwnI swry jgq dw bxwaux vwlw hY, sdw hI ijaUNdw hY, kdy (jnm) mrn dy gyV ivc nhIN AwauNdw [ bRhmigAwnI mukqI dw rwh (d`sx vwlw qy au~cI Awqmk) izMdgI dw dyx vwlw hY, auhI pUrn purK qy kwdr hY [ bRhmigAwnI in^simAW dw ^sm hY, sB dI shwieqw krdw hY [ swrw id`sdw jgq bRhmigAwnI dw (Awpxw) hY, auh (qW pRq`K) Awp hI r`b hY [ bRhmigAwnI dI mihmw (koeI) bRhmigAwnI hI kr skdw hY; hy nwnk! bRhmigAwnI sB jIvW dw mwlk hY [8[8[
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30-Jan-2008, 08:57 AM
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bRhm igAwnI ijsu krY pRBu Awip ] (273-11, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5) The God-conscious being is made so by God Himself. Brahmgyani is the product Of God's will. Can the product ever be the same as the Producer? Never, atleast , so far as the creative potency is concerned.
We are all the product Of God's will. Can we ever be of HIS size? All those lucky will merge with HIM and be one with HIm and become that one becomes after merging with HIM i.e God like but we cannot be HIM  Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113
It has been stated by the members that I do misinterpret the Bani. However, one has to apply common sense at many places. The literal translation of the lines in 'stand alone' manner can be misleading.Gurbani, I am told is not easy to understand. Mere a reading once or twice will not serve the purpose.Like the beginners in Gurbani, I am learning.Yes, it is true I have doubts as I have not read the bani more than even once. There are many pages which I have not read.
It does not empower any one to make fun. I am reproducing only that Gurbani states. I shall try to give as much objective an interpretation as possible.I also love my religion and my gurus like you do. Why should I misinterpret.? The same argument is valid for the other thread of NanaK dev ji. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113 pwris prisAY pwrsu hoie joqI joiq smwie ] (27-9, isrIrwgu, mÚ 3) By personally experiencing the Personality of the Guru, one's own personality is uplifted, and one's light merges into the Light. *********** I do not know the meaning of guru in the context as stated above.It should be God. If one merges in GOD , one does not become GOD; it is like a drop of water mixing in the ocean; the drop is lost in the ocean and is one with the ocean.Can it be said that the drop has become an ocean; all that can be said that they have become one.  |
30-Jan-2008, 18:55 PM
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Dear Sikh80 Ji, bRhm igAwnI ijsu krY pRBu Awip ]
As I understand, Luck does not play any part is becoming Brahamgyani. It is true that Braham Gyan comes on its own but only when the person has prepared herself or himself for it.
'The Sat' resides in all of us. Its expression in our being remains covered because of the vices and worldly desires we have acquired, this is like dust on the clean mirror. When we cleanse our mental faculties of all this dirt and purify our thoughts in a permanent manner, "The Sat' expresses itself in our being. This expression, as I understand, is Braham Gyan. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113
This Gyan come to the person on its own when she or he has prepared itself. It is for this reason the word 'Aapee' has been used in the Tuk you had quoted in your post.
If fact there is nothing call Luck in this world, those who are prepared and alert capitalise on the passing opportunity to succeed, while other who are not no say that she or he was lucky. Nothing is free in life, one has to work for the end she or he is seeking. This applies to spiritual work as much as in the material world. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113
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30-Jan-2008, 19:05 PM
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Respected Amar Pal ji,
Instead of teaching something unconnected you should have, with your experience , clarified the things.We all know nothing comes free in this life not even spiritualty.One has to earn it. What is the connection with this post.? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113
What you have stated means that there is something in Gurmukhi , has not been properly translated. Kindly guide us as to what is the correct meaning of the line and as a matter of fact the entire thread. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113
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30-Jan-2008, 19:35 PM
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Saloke of Brahmgyani Astpadi in Sukhmani Sahib: sloku ]Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113 min swcw muiK swcw soie ] Avru n pyKY eyksu ibnu koie ]Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19113 nwnk ieh lCx bRhm igAwnI hoie ]1] Shalok:
The True One is on his mind, and the True One is upon his lips.
He sees only the One.
O Nanak, these are the qualities of the God-conscious being. ||1|| |
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Originally Posted by Surinder Kaur Cheema 
bRhm igAwnI kY eykY rMg ] (273-6, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai aykai rang.
The God-conscious being loves the One Lord alone.
bRhm igAwnI kY bsY pRBu sMg ] (273-6, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai basai parabh sang.
The God-conscious being dwells with God.
bRhm igAwnI kY nwmu AwDwru ] (273-7, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai naam aaDhaar.
The God-conscious being takes the Naam as his Support.
bRhm igAwnI kY nwmu prvwru ] (273-7, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai naam parvaar.
The God-conscious being has the Naam as his Family.
bRhm igAwnI sdw sd jwgq ] (273-7, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee sadaa sad jaagat.
The God-conscious being is awake and aware, forever and ever.
bRhm igAwnI AhMbuiD iqAwgq ] (273-8, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee ahaN-buDh ti-aagat.
The God-conscious being renounces his proud ego.
bRhm igAwnI kY min prmwnµd ] (273-8, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai man parmaanand.
In the mind of the God-conscious being, there is supreme bliss.
bRhm igAwnI kY Gir sdw Anµd ] (273-8, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai ghar sadaa anand.
In the home of the God-conscious being, there is everlasting bliss.
bRhm igAwnI suK shj invws ] (273-9, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee sukh sahj nivaas.
The God-conscious being dwells in peaceful ease.
nwnk bRhm igAwnI kw nhI ibnws ]5] (273-9, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
naanak barahm gi-aanee kaa nahee binaas. ||5||
O Nanak, the God-conscious being shall never perish. ||5||
bRhm igAwnI bRhm kw byqw ] (273-10, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee barahm kaa baytaa.
The God-conscious being knows God.
bRhm igAwnI eyk sMig hyqw ] (273-10, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee ayk sang haytaa.
The God-conscious being is in love with the One alone.
bRhm igAwnI kY hoie AicMq ] (273-10, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kai ho-ay achint.
The God-conscious being is carefree.
bRhm igAwnI kw inrml mMq ] (273-10, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kaa nirmal mant.
Pure are the Teachings of the God-conscious being.
bRhm igAwnI ijsu krY pRBu Awip ] (273-11, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee jis karai parabh aap.
The God-conscious being is made so by God Himself.
bRhm igAwnI kw bf prqwp ] (273-11, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kaa bad partaap.
The God-conscious being is gloriously great.
bRhm igAwnI kw drsu bfBwgI pweIAY ] (273-12, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee kaa daras badbhaagee paa-ee-ai.
The Darshan, the Blessed Vision of the God-conscious being, is obtained by great good fortune.
bRhm igAwnI kau bil bil jweIAY ] (273-12, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee ka-o bal bal jaa-ee-ai.
To the God-conscious being, I make my life a sacrifice.
bRhm igAwnI kau Kojih mhysur ] (273-12, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
barahm gi-aanee ka-o khojeh mahaysur.
The God-conscious being is sought by the great god Shiva.
nwnk bRhm igAwnI Awip prmysur ]6] (273-13, gauVI suKmnI, mÚ 5)
naanak barahm gi-aanee aap parmaysur. ||6||
O Nanak, the God-conscious being is Himself the Supreme Lord God. ||6||
Gurmukhi-
bRhmigAwnI dy ihrdy ivc (sdw) iek Akwl purK dw ipAwr (v`sdw hY), (qwhIeyN) pRBU bRhmigAwnI dy AMg-sMg rihMdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dy mn ivc (pRBU dw) nwm (hI) tyk hY Aqy nwm hI aus dw prvwr hY [
bRhmigAwnI sdw (ivkwrW dy hmly vloN) sucyq rihMdw hY, Aqy ‘mYN mYN’ krn vwlI m`q C`f dyNdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dy mn ivc au~cy suK dw mwlk Akwl purK v`sdw hY, (qwhIeyN) aus dy ihrdy-rUp Gr ivc sdw ^uSI iKVwE hY [
bRhmigAwnI (mnu`K) suK qy SWqI ivc itikAw rihMdw hY; (qy) hy nwnk! bRhmigAwnI (dI ies au~cI Awqmk AvsQw) dw kdy nws nhIN huMdw [5[
bRhmigAwnI (mnu`K) Akwl purK dw mhrm bx jWdw hY Aqy auh iek pRBU nwl hI ipAwr krdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dy mn ivc (sdw) byi&krI rihMdI hY, aus dw aupdyS (BI hornW ƒ) pivqR krn vwlw huMdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dw bVw nwmxw ho jWdw hY (pr auhI mnu`K bRhmigAwnI bxdw hY) ijs ƒ pRBU Awp bxwauNdw hY [
bRhmigAwnI dw dIdwr v`fy BwgW nwl pweIdw hY; bRhmigAwnI qoN sdw sdky jweIey [
iSv (Awidk dyvqy BI) bRhmigAwnI ƒ Bwldy iPrdy hn; hy nwnk! Akwl purK Awp bRhmigAwnI (dw rUp) hY [6[
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