Concept of Jhoot (re: Jootha Food)

sikhs eating out..is a cultural thing..it was just the not IN thing to do...look at that in this context. More to do with the widespread use of tobacco by almost everyone non-sikh...people anted to avoid the chance...
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We hear with our ears but we listen with our minds.
Hearing the sound of a mantra is one thing - listening to it is another !

And btw..the SRM is NOT an outdated/dated document. Its hardly a 3/4 century old...a single human life time.. Its Language (translated English version ) may be a little outdated/archaic and needs to be clarified. But the Basic Principles expounded in the SRM are soundly based on Gurbani.

2. SRM has been in the sights of the Sants and DERAS. dehdharee Gurus etc since its inception becasue it IMPEDES their dera growth. IF the SRM were dead..each dera snat baba mahapurash would have a field day making up new rules and breaking up old ones on a daily basis..
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3. Modern Sikhs have an axe to grind with the SRM simply becasue they cannot keep up with it..and so wnat it watered down..some dont want the emphsasis on hallal meat..becasue they wish they could eat anywhere and anyhow...others dont want the emphasis on Hair..becasue they cant seem to keep beards or kesh or too much to tie dastaar etc...yet others cant get along with the Kirpan..the Kachera..etc...and want all these dropped form the SRM...
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Everyone who has an objection to anything has an axe to grind...he/she cannot keep up to the rigid standards and want them softened..watered down..relaxed..to accomodate everyone !!

There is nothing in the SRM that is ultra vires the Gurbani in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Forgive me if I came across as saying the SRM is not valid-that was not what I was trying to get across at all. I was merely saying that everything in the SRM is according to Gurbani principles so if we ever perceive a conflict it is due to lack of our understanding. It is often worth going back to understand the culture of the time when it was written to fully understand the message as given in my examples. This is especially pertinent as there will be more and more Sikhs living outside India all their lives or even from different backgrounds so they may not automatically understand what the SRM is getting at. As Sikhs, we follow our lives according to Gurbani and the SRM enables us to do that. However, reading the SRM may take more than the literal meaning to fully understand it. Even many legal systems around the world need an understanding of the time when the laws were written to fully understand their application!

Medical practice is outwith my sphere of interest but I will guess that if someone is coughing and sneezing and has say a respiratory virus of some sort..then sharing food may be ill advised!!

In this instance..even your wife cant share with you !!..let alone some random amritdharee...ha ha.

The BASIC is being left behind....and cursory is being needlessly stressed.
The BASIC foundation of this is different...and ONLY happens ONCE.

Isn't it true that you are at state of maximum infection of others before the symptoms show up!

Let me the know the wise ones amongst us who will know such personally (disease before symptoms show up) and avoid other people!

In real life you get some and you give some Ahshooooh!

Sat Sri Akal.

Let's just say for the sake of argument that there was never any threat of infection at any time. Would that make jootha more or less acceptable? Did jootha ever really have anything to do with worry over germs?

spnadmin ji I am not a sucha-jootha man so cannot answer. I am of the school "Makhi dekh ke nahin nigli jaandi" (You cannot swallow a fly if you llok at it).
How many we eat inadvertently or parts their off anyone's guess. Yukh

So if I see gross jootha leftovers of unknown origin I won't go near. But if someone dear next to me finished eating and left in decent shape on their plate I may nibble but very infrequently with a near and dear.

Sat Sri Akal.

Spnadmin Ji...the "germs..hygeine..theory etc etc.." are all padding.

Just like when the Babas are asked to explain the water pot covered with red cloth nearby an Akhand Paath/Paath of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..they will say..OH just in case there is a FIRE breaking out..."which is utter and sheer nonsense but never the less a feeble attempt at justification to the "nastik"..BECAUSE the Shardha minded BLIND Followers..they wont even DARE ask such a question form their sant ji...
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And what about the RED CLOTH..i added once ...and the sant was doubly quick...Havent you seen what colour they paint the FIRE TRUCKS ??? WOW..he sure caught me on the wrong foot there..clever sant !!

But has a FIRE ever occured..even ONCE ? NO he replied ...even quicker...but it pays to be PREPARED..NO ??..Thats also becasue GURU JI Helps those who help themsleves...so we have this fire fighting ready..GURU JI reciprocates with NO FIRES. End of discussion.

That is NOT to say that the GURUS werent aware of germs hygeine etc..They were.
Guru nanak ji has a Shabad where the IMAGERY used is YOGHURT. In order to have the Best yoghurt form...the Bhandah must be scruplously CLEAN...dried well..placed in the SUNLIGHT...passed through a DHOOP (fragrance smoke)....and then ONLY will the MILK set beautifully into the Best YOGHURT. (Anyone who has had to throw away spoilt unset milk that failed to become Yoghurt will attest that Clean disinfected container is a MUST..as Guru nanak ji sais 500 years ago..long before germs etc became so common (knowledge that is )