Man stands by email: "Lose the traditions, or stay in India"

bscheema · #1 (**permalink**) 11-Aug-2012, 14:42 PM

http://www.cknw.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocal/Story.aspx?ID=1754208

copied from above link

Saying they must respect what he calls the 'Canadian way of living,' a man who wrote an offensive email in the wake of a deadly shooting at a temple in the U-S is standing by his comments against members of the Sikh community.

Dave Foran initially sent the email to Sher-e-Punjab Radio.

This morning, he defended its content with CKNW's Philip Till.

"There's nothing wrong with it if everybody kind of blends in and looks the same, but these people don't do that, they bring that religious thing with them."

"But how does it impact you?"

"I have to look at it. Other people have to look at it. I'm not the only here and I don't believe I'm prejudiced. I know lots of people from India. they blend in. they wear blue jeans. I don't want to live in India."

In the email, Foran insists he doesn't condone violence, but he believes 'Sikhs are disrespectful' because they don't 'blend in' after moving to Canada.

He goes on to say, 'your long beards, turbans, clothes and waddling as you follow each other down the street is enough to make us sick. Lose the traditions or stay in India.'
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/38930-man-stands-email-lose-traditions-stay.html

Dale Badh's family owns Sher-e-Punjab Radio.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38930

He says Foran's comments are offensive because --as someone who's lived in Canada since 1975-- he's still not considered 'Canadian.'

"How are we disrespectful? It was very, very disturbing to me when I read that email and it still bothers me because what we've gone through in Wisconsin, what we've gone through after 9-11."

Badh says he doesn't wear a turban or beard, yet people keep calling him Indo-Canadian or South Asian, instead of simply Canadian.

Badh was speaking with CKNW's Philip Till

Luckysingh · #2 (**permalink**) 12-Aug-2012, 05:31 AM

Dave Foran may sound offensive and racist, but he is speaking for the majority.
There are many people that feel the same way as him.

They feel that we sikhs don't blend in or make an effort. - But they should look at the bigger numbers of chinese and far east that normally have 2 generations in a house of which NONE of them can speak a word of English!!

I mean in UK we have islamics that demand their own schools and they already have their own parliment. Compared to all this, I think the sikhs make a very good effort, be they taxi drivers, pizza delivery, bus drivers or security guards.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38930
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38930
- The ones I come across in Canada can certainly speak more english compared to their chinese or far eastern counterparts.

The Problem is because a Sikh with a Turban stands out in a crowd of different immigrants, then we become easier targets for these people. It becomes easier for them to accuse us for the problems created. Just think, a Mr Singh standing in a turban next to a vietnames,chinese,phillipino,mexican, puerto rican, african and brazilian.- Out of this crowd of 8 nationalities, only Mr Singh with his turban will stand out.
Therefore, he becomes the grabbable and easier target!!

Joginder Singh Foley · #3 (**permalink**) 12-Aug-2012, 07:11 AM

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If I lived and worked in Canada and I worked for/ran/owned a radio/TV station and the next knucle draging Dave Foran rang in and started on about Sikhs or {any other ethnic minority} not fitting in I would take great pleasure to politly ask them as to which first nation tribe they belong to and seeing what sort of response I would get, and I take it then that dave foran has never seen a white Sikh {or a white muslim} then??
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38930

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38930

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #4 (**permalink**) 12-Aug-2012, 08:30 AM

same problem in Malaysia..3 or four generations of Chinese living here..not a word of Malay or English..they can survive only on Chinese...among the Chinese...

Ishna · #5 (**permalink**) 12-Aug-2012, 13:11 PM

Before turbans it was black skin. If it wasn't turbans it would be slanty eyes, or tanned skin, or red hair, or hooked noses. There will always be variety throughout the human race. I wonder if Dave would view a court judge and a slack-jawed yokel from the trailer park in the same way even thought they might both be white? One is polite and educated the other wears jeans two sizes too small and never washes their hair - one of them ain't trying to blend in...

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #6 (**permalink**) 12-Aug-2012, 16:54 PM

Yeah ishna Ji..if not all those..then it would be German Kraut ?? or the Rabbis beards..or the Mormons not using TV etc //whatever different..is an excuse..

Navdeep88 · #7 (**permalink**) 13-Aug-2012, 15:49 PM

What a D-bag.

Inderjeet Kaur · #8 (**permalink**) 13-Aug-2012, 18:19 PM

Check out my avatar. It says, "Why try to fit in when you were born to stand out?" Conformity has never appealed to me. I have always been the square peg that didn't fit into the round hole - and I never wanted to fit in. I never wanted not to fit in either. I just wanted to be me.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38930
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38930

I wish these narrow-minded people would learn that a Sikh turban is like a sign saying "May I help you?" And I wish the people, mostly men, swith the turbans would learn enough English to really be able to help.

harry haller · #9 (**permalink**) 13-Aug-2012, 20:26 PM

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I wish these narrow-minded people would learn that a Sikh turban is like a sign saying "May I help you?" And I wish the people, mostly men, swith the turbans would learn enough English to really be able to help.

With the hugest of respect, Bhenji, a Sikh turban is no guarantee....., stocks can go down as well as up!

forget learning english, just being able to smile would be a start!