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05-May-2012, 20:22 PM
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God-Allah-Yahvé- thats ok as the different names of God can be easily explained trough the different geographical/historical & cultural contexts but I have doubts about our only and unic God being Almighty...look at all the evil and suffering in this evil-heavy world. And pls do not argue by saying like the Sufis that this is a question of plan of consciousness. See all those innocents, all those CHILDREN dying of hunger every single day - dont you think that our "free-will" is going to far (or perhaps our free-will isn't so free as it seems..) ? To me its "simple": There is Ahura-Mazda (or God-Allah-Yahvé) but there is Ariman too (Lucifer/Chaos) and the battle between both is a cosmic and titanic one. And He might not win without OUR EFFORT... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/38450-gods-almightyness-versus-evil.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38450
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05-May-2012, 20:31 PM
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Yes sir, we have to make efforts. Otherwise the battle rages onwards. |
05-May-2012, 20:42 PM
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Jeos ,I think you have it, there must be something he can't do. |
05-May-2012, 21:04 PM
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oh yeah..he cant make me stop eating steaks...ha ha | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
05-May-2012, 21:07 PM
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Gyani Ji Is it not true that even God cannot do one thing .....the one thing he cannot do is something that is morally wrong,as if he could do that then he would not be God ,he would be a man.
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05-May-2012, 21:22 PM
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A long time ago..i heard that theres one thing even the DEVIL CANNOT DO...the Moral thing...sounds the same thing to me...BUT in GURMATT there is NO DEVIL...its ALL HIM/HIS PLAY ONLY......so Guru Arjun ji is HIM..and so is Jehangir....its Guru Teg bahadur Ji and so is Aurangzeb...Guru Arjun Ji says..TERA BHANNA MEETHA LAGGEH..He does not call for the "DEVIL" to be punished/castigated...so its ALL ONLY HIM..none other. | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
05-May-2012, 21:36 PM
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Gyani Ji That means he is the one eating the steaks and they can only be warm because there is no cold.And his kitchen is always light because there is no dark,and he never burns them because he has a supreme plan of creation.
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05-May-2012, 21:38 PM
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| | | | | Re: God's almightyness versus evil
Evil does not exist. It is the absence of good. Evil is not a thing in Itself. Consider light and darkness, often used to describe good and evil.
Light is a real property of the universe. There are light particles - or more properly called photons - and we can measure them in units. There are no particles or units of darkness. One cannot measure darkness because it doesn't actually exist, it is actually just the lack of light in a specific place.
In the same way: Heat and Cold.
There is no such thing as coldness. We can measure and calculate heat, according to degrees or celsius because it is real. Heat is given off from the sun. Coldness is not a thing in itself, rather it is a human being's perception of the lack of heat, just as darkness is a human being's perception of the lack of light.
In the same way we must not fall under the illusion that God created evil. It is non-existence, in reality there is only good and everything in creation in essence is pure goodness. However human beings can become deprived of our inherent goodness; we can become ill and sick of heart and therefore we become deprived of goodness. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38450 Evil is not natural. It is the deprivation, lack or utter absence of natural good. One who lacks goodness, lacks being and becomes something less than Himself; what he or she was created to be. The less good one is, the less truly human one is. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38450 There is no such thing as evil. It is the human mind's perception of the lack of good in a person, situation or existant reality.
However God can transform even human evil into Good.
Out of evil, God can work great good - for example the noble qualities of self-sacrifice and bravery that are often ignited in human nature in opposition to human evil.
Consider the thousands of men and women who, during the Second World War, risked their lives to save Jews from being sent to the Nazi death camps.
No darkness, even the darkness of evil, is to dark for God. He is in everything in its natural, pure goodness and human beings are powerless to upset his Supreme Divine plan of creation.
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05-May-2012, 23:00 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: God's almightyness versus evil
An unwavering, rock solid faith despite doubt and questioning is a fruitful and bring-peace faith, while a simplistic faith might be a source of blindness,conflicts and stagnation at all levels. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38450
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