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25-Nov-2011, 20:00 PM
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Sat Sri Akal and blessings to everyonemundahug, I am new user  .
What Do you think about these kind of Stunts,does this have something to do with Sikh Martial traditions? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/37653-sikh-boys-doing-stunts-reality-shows.html
How does it Portray the Sikh Community to the Ignorants and outsiders who do not have any remote Idea of Sikh Community and Culture? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37653
Is it really martial Arts swordfight?
Do you think this Viral Video will make people more aware about our Community? Will they be curious to find out about Sikhs ?
one thing to note is that the video is uploaded by probably a westerner ,who copied a similar video uploaded by some South Indian (it was a Telugu Show?) earlier and there is hardly any mention of Sikh or Sikhi even the Jaikara by those Performers is muted and the video is very much edited.
Viral video sometimes also make social impact and become a part of Slangs and stereotypes.And This is probably the first time I have seen a video related to Sikhs becoming viral.
And most of the comments are highly ignorant and racist and even Anti Muslim (typical case of mistaken Identity)
So far,The video has 5.5 million views in 9 days, and 90% of People who have rated the video have liked it ,in the reaction Bar most people have rated it 'Incredible'.
These are some questions in my mind ATM, there will probably be few more.I have asked so many qns' Fellow members may respond and skip to questions which they wish.
If the video stays then it will have crorers of views.
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25-Nov-2011, 21:31 PM
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This takes away from what the Original Gatka/sant sipahi meant to be...and turns it into a STUNT..showmanship..vikhava..entertainment for the masses... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37653
To me this is continuing the Attack on Sikhi/Gurmatt principles...and going off tangent...in a different manner than the ongoing attacks on srm, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, sikhi principles, sant-sipahi traditions etc etc...Gatka and Sipahi in Gurmatt is NOT meant for dikahwa,,show off or entertainment..its a spiritual - deeply spiritual purpose. | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
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Yes, somehow i agree with Gyani-Jairnail Singh, but otherwise, it is telling the world who strong we sikhs, are and even if we are a minority in the world, you need to discern us! But i got a question, is this real talent if they bleed? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37653
Ah sh*, missclicked voting... | | The following members appreciate TigerStyleZ Ji for the above message. | |
26-Nov-2011, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh  This takes away from what the Original Gatka/sant sipahi meant to be...and turns it into a STUNT..showmanship..vikhava..entertainment for the masses...
To me this is continuing the Attack on Sikhi/Gurmatt principles...and going off tangent...in a different manner than the ongoing attacks on srm, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, sikhi principles, sant-sipahi traditions etc etc...Gatka and Sipahi in Gurmatt is NOT meant for dikahwa,,show off or entertainment..its a spiritual - deeply spiritual purpose. | In Jaloos, too, there is a show of our strength... how Jaloos is different from what these Singhs are doing...  | | The following members appreciate Aman Singh Ji for the above message. | |
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welcomekaurHarsh72 ji, welcome to the SPN and thanks for highlighting the video Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37653
I was actually quite disgusted by this video on several levels;
* There is a huge difference between jaloos and the show. In a jaloos it is gatka that is displayed. Gatka requires incredible skill and discipline. This show was just violence. There was no skill!!
* They were inflicting pain for the sake of inflicting pain. It made them look like a bunch of thugs. Not conducive image to self defence or defender of the weak. With images like that no wonder non-Sikhs are suspicious of the kirpan!
* I found teh tearing off of shirts very vulgar. A Sikh is someone who always carries themself with dignity. There was nothing dignified about their act, mannerisms or behaviour.
* The man had obviously shaved their chests and arms to do the stunts. How is the removal of kesh in keeping with the Sikhi image they are trying to portray? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37653
Displays of gatka, I am completely supportive of as they are educational and beautiful. This was not artistic or tasteful or constructive. It was just violence    
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26-Nov-2011, 09:34 AM
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I am with Jasleen ji on that one. I differ in that I do see something positive here and I see the skill and discipline that goes into what they did. Quote: |
Viral video sometimes also make social impact and become a part of Slangs and stereotypes.And This is probably the first time I have seen a video related to Sikhs becoming viral
| Really? Check this out my brother, go to the Youtube link and see related videos:
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26-Nov-2011, 18:03 PM
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I on the other hand see nothing positive in this at all, its the sort of cheap entertainment that passes for saturday night TV here in the UK, I am quite dismayed to see it has spread to India. Its been some time since I watched Indian TV, back in the late 70's actually, its certainly slick and sharp, bit dismayed at the portrayal of the female judge, actually dismayed at the whole thing, cannot see what positive message it is sending about Sikhism, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37653Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37653
Bhagatsinghji, I believe this sort of thing is similar to Sewa, you can have all the skill and discipline in the world, but as soon as you brag about it, it becomes moot and worthless, just my opinion | | The following member appreciates harry haller Ji for the above message. | |
26-Nov-2011, 23:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Aman Singh In Jaloos, too, there is a show of our strength... how Jaloos is different from what these Singhs are doing... | Aman Singh ji
IMHO in Jaloos ,the people performing Gatka are trained People.It is very good, I haven't heard of anyone hurting himself/herself or others or bleeding while Performing in front of Audience.And I feel very good when i see those Singhs and Kaurs keeping the martial culture,tradition and history alive and connecting others to it.But this was more like Show of Physical strength or Pain bearing ability for example One guy Hitting other one on his chest with a Hammer .And the worst Part was Bleeding and injuries and after watching that video a lot of Parents might get discouraged or Hesitate in Sending their kids to learn Gatka,(do these bloody injuries happen while learning Gatka?).I am also not sure whether eating tubelights is a part of Gatka.And Sadly they Probably have proved Sajid khan Right ,Who made Some Anti Gatka Comments (Whatever the real intentions and reason for his comments ).He called it Dangebazi in first Performance of Bir Khalsa group (later he apologized for his comments).
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I agree. But no matter how horribly you perceive it, learn to see the positive in it. | | The following members appreciate BhagatSingh Ji for the above message. | | 
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