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Women Of Punjab Are Obese

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THE HEALTH of a state indicates the health of its women, or in this case, obesity Punjab and Delhi rank first and second in the country's obesity count with 37.5 per cent and 34 per cent, respectively Apart from these two states, only Kerala's percentage of obese women is over 30. When compared with the national average of 14 per cent, or with states like Bihar (5.3 per cent), Jharkhand (5.6 per cent), Chhattisgarh (6.7 per cent) and Madhya Pradesh (8.6 per cent), it tells the contrast in the health of womenChild Developmentwomen's health
is better in healthier states," said an official from the Women and Child Development Ministry Punjab and Delhi also have the country's lowest sex ratio 820 for 1,000 boys and 865 for 1,000 boys respectively But, according to the ministry, it is an indication that if a girl is born the families take good care of them, though it may not be as good for boys. In the study, the NIPCD has raised a question mark over the government-run public distribution system, which is supposed to provide food at subsidised rates to the poor, but has failed to deliver "The benefits of the programme do not seem to reach about 30 per cent of the population, so a different approach is required." The data also gives insight into the child preference of Indian women. About 38 per cent women with two daughters want another child, but only 17 per cent with two sons want another child. For women, with a son as well as daughter, the figure is as low as 11 per cent. chetan@hindustantimes.com m The Capital ranks second in the country's obesity count at 34 per cent. Kerala comes in at the third spot a Percentage of mainourished women in Delhi is at 11 per cent. m Punjab tops the list with 37.5 per cent of its women being obese M Punjab and Delhi also have the lowest sex ratios in the country at 820:1000 and 865:1000 WEIGHT 'N' WATCH (NIPCD). "The figures are a clear indication that . The percentage of malnourished women is as high as 43 per cent in Bihar, 42 per cent in Jharkhand and 40 per cent in Orissa, while in the Capital and Punjab, it is 11per cent. Sikkim's figures are better The figures are based on a 2006 study by the International Institute of Population Studies and compiled by the National Institute of Public Cooperation and
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TGill

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This is cos we are not Guru's sikhs and don't follow their teachings. I mean it literally !

- Obesity happens cos of the rich diet and lack of exercise. This is totally not natural and not a sikh way of life.
- Foeticide and infanticide arising from no trust in waheguru's will - again a sikh by definition can't do it.

We just pretend to be sikhs otherwise such trends wouldn't have even surfaced.
 

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This is cos we are not Guru's sikhs and don't follow their teachings. I mean it literally !

- Obesity happens cos of the rich diet and lack of exercise. This is totally not natural and not a sikh way of life.
- Foeticide and infanticide arising from no trust in waheguru's will - again a sikh by definition can't do it.

We just pretend to be sikhs otherwise such trends wouldn't have even surfaced.

You are right.but atleast it indicates that people of punjab are well fed.women too in punjab are getting proper nutrition.
 

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You are right.but atleast it indicates that people of punjab are well fed.women too in punjab are getting proper nutrition.
Of course.

Then we still have the second step of remaining healthy while having enough to eat, which should be a natural followup to the current affairs in punjab. I really do think that punjab is getting better, now that some of these matters are finally in the open, we can address them now with less fear.
 

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I don't see how overeating constitutes healthy eating and overweight girls are an indicator of people looking after girls. If anything it is a sign of abuse.
 

TGill

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True, this is a sign of abuse.
One can analyze it this way as well - true that 60% of people in punjab have enough to eat so they sometimes overeat and so do women (which is bad) , but on the contrary now women can't exercise openly and are treated poorly with limited means on hand and hence are obeser than women in other states who have equal quantities to eat.

Don't take it literally, just a stupid analysis :)
 

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I don't see how overeating constitutes healthy eating and overweight girls are an indicator of people looking after girls. If anything it is a sign of abuse.

What obesity a sign of abuse :D:D:D

Here are the obesity statistics of Uk

UK Obesity Statistics
Trends in Overweight and Obesity

About 46% of men in England and 32% of women are overweight (a body mass index of 25-30 kg/m2), and an additional 17% of men and 21% of women are obese (a body mass index of more than 30 kg/m2 ).

Overweight and obesity increase with age. About 28% of men and 27% of women aged 16-24 are overweight or obese but 76% of men and 68% of women aged 55-64 are overweight or obese.

Overweight and obesity are increasing. The percentage of adults who are obese has roughly doubled since the mid-1980's.
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Now could you please tell who is abusing people in uk
 

kds1980

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True, this is a sign of abuse.
One can analyze it this way as well - true that 60% of people in punjab have enough to eat so they sometimes overeat and so do women (which is bad) , but on the contrary now women can't exercise openly and are treated poorly with limited means on hand and hence are obeser than women in other states who have equal quantities to eat.

Don't take it literally, just a stupid analysis :)

Yes its stupid analsys .the main factor is that people of punjab now have enough money so they are eating plenty and also employing bihari labour to do work.villagers have to do so much of physical work so they generally don't need to exercise.But now its look like that they are not doing physical work.
 

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What obesity a sign of abuse :D:D:D

Here are the obesity statistics of Uk

UK Obesity Statistics
Trends in Overweight and Obesity

About 46% of men in England and 32% of women are overweight (a body mass index of 25-30 kg/m2), and an additional 17% of men and 21% of women are obese (a body mass index of more than 30 kg/m2 ).

Overweight and obesity increase with age. About 28% of men and 27% of women aged 16-24 are overweight or obese but 76% of men and 68% of women aged 55-64 are overweight or obese.

Overweight and obesity are increasing. The percentage of adults who are obese has roughly doubled since the mid-1980's.
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Now could you please tell who is abusing people in uk

I'll tell you who is abusing people in the UK. Businesses!

The culture of ready meals and convenience means that people are apparently getting fatter here. But to be honest I don't really notice it on a street level. Another factor you have to consider is that this may be a proactive attempt to shock people into looking after themselves by UK authorities.

If the situation in Panjab is true than trouble lays ahead. Already there is low birthrate of females and this may mean that many of those that are around will be unhealthily obese.

Lay off the Gulab Jumuns and ghee!!
 

TGill

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In UK 32% women are obese whereas in Punjab it is 37.5%. Does people in UK on an average have lesser food to eat than in Punjab.

It is definitely an abuse and is due to a bad way of living in Punjab. Well the real thing to see would be Average obesity level of a person/Average food available per person. I'm sure Punjab will out and out win from UK in that ratio. It is definitely a big abuse.
 

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One thing I do notice is that generation from back home (mainly the men) have a high incidence of pot bellies.

I'm not being cruel or petty but that sort of thing contributes to heart disease and other health problems.
 
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I don't see how overeating constitutes healthy eating and overweight girls are an indicator of people looking after girls. If anything it is a sign of abuse.


being overweight is a sign of abuse??? now that's a new one! i've heard plenty of insults and rude remarks about being overweight, but a sign of abuse... interesting. how do you figure?

my theory is as follows. the traditonal indian diet is high in fat and calories because it is meant to sustain hard manual labor (in Punjab, for example, it means farm work!). now in modern punjab, people are eating the same traditional foods but not doing the hard labor, so those calories are going unused. it's not abuse, it's simple logic.

gurfateh!
 

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being overweight is a sign of abuse??? now that's a new one! i've heard plenty of insults and rude remarks about being overweight, but a sign of abuse... interesting. how do you figure?

my theory is as follows. the traditonal indian diet is high in fat and calories because it is meant to sustain hard manual labor (in Punjab, for example, it means farm work!). now in modern punjab, people are eating the same traditional foods but not doing the hard labor, so those calories are going unused. it's not abuse, it's simple logic.

gurfateh!

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drkhalsa

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its happening in every society
Man has come a long way being a forest develor and hunter to present City deweller or even rural deweller are no much different

Need is to change Food habits which are always difficult and so is the obesity in all the effluents part of world including Punjab

I cant see any difference or uniquess in case of Punjab!?
May be I am missing some thing here
 

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being overweight is a sign of abuse??? now that's a new one! i've heard plenty of insults and rude remarks about being overweight, but a sign of abuse... interesting. how do you figure?

my theory is as follows. the traditonal indian diet is high in fat and calories because it is meant to sustain hard manual labor (in Punjab, for example, it means farm work!). now in modern punjab, people are eating the same traditional foods but not doing the hard labor, so those calories are going unused. it's not abuse, it's simple logic.

gurfateh!

I think I did a poor job of explaining myself. Of course we have little or no control over our genetics. I've battled with weight myself.

All I meant by my statements is that providing good suitable nutrition to a child/children is an increasingly recognised important aspect of parenting. In the UK government people are getting concerned about bad feeding habits parents sometimes raise their children with i.e. sugary, high fat diet with little or no physical activity.

I totally agree that it is actually the changing times that are possibly making some traditional diets unsuitable today. Many Sikhs no longer till the land themselves, do hard construction work etc. So yes, whereas the physical nature of traditional job roles negated the effects of certain food stuffs but this has changed. It is our responsibility to adapt accordingly. Here in the UK the SouthEast Asian population has a massive rate of heart disease, diabetes, angina compared to other communities. The long term health implications of poor diet are becoming widely known in the world (i.e. Omega 3,6,9 oils) and Punjab itself is very slowly taking on the keep fit culture that we see elsewhere with gyms etc.
 

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its happening in every society
Man has come a long way being a forest develor and hunter to present City deweller or even rural deweller are no much different

Need is to change Food habits which are always difficult and so is the obesity in all the effluents part of world including Punjab

I cant see any difference or uniquess in case of Punjab!?
May be I am missing some thing here

come on Dr.khalsa ji the figures for obesity of women in punjab which is primary an agricultural state is 37.5% while figure for women of delhi of delhi which is city is 34%
obesity in women of city is not surprising but for states where prmary occupation is agriculture its quite surprising.

also punjab's sister state haryana which is very similar to punjab is nowhere in the picture.
except language and religions both states are quite similar.The ethnicity,occupation,financial position of people etc is quite similar in both states.

so obesity of women in punjab is different.
 

TGill

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I'm not sure which way the discussion is going but going back to the point where it started. Punjabi women are at number 1 position in obesity levels compared to whole of India. Well that means people are not leading a natural life, they are not listening to what the nature is saying, what their own body is saying and this is not a sikh way of life. Sikh way of life is totally natural.

Secondly, some people said how being overweight can be an abuse. We are talking about a society here not an individual. And when a society gets associated with a non - natural trend, it is definitely an abuse for the society which here is obesity.
 

drkhalsa

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come on Dr.khalsa ji the figures for obesity of women in punjab which is primary an agricultural state is 37.5% while figure for women of delhi of delhi which is city is 34%
obesity in women of city is not surprising but for states where prmary occupation is agriculture its quite surprising.

also punjab's sister state haryana which is very similar to punjab is nowhere in the picture.
except language and religions both states are quite similar.The ethnicity,occupation,financial position of people etc is quite similar in both states.

so obesity of women in punjab is different.
No wonder agriculture thing count nothin in new punjab I have forist hand experience of living in Rural Punjab and there is no major work left in field s to be done almost everything is mechanised with Tractors , Motors Harvesting machines so peopel here are just not using there bodies enough just like somebody living in new york and london ,And yes Obesity is among top 5 Health troubles in USA .

Its just more resources and less work simple
One more interesting Thing I would like to share .

There was study conducted in Uk concerning obesity and Cradiac truble in Asian Poplulation living In UK and one of Hpothesis that was given was that the genetic make of people from Asian countries has evolved in a way to store fat in body when ample resouces are available so in case of some natural or social clamity they can survive longer .( I know it look absurd and I alos think it is baseless!!) ans also this is just one off study and does not matter much
But just want to high light this thing that even in Immigrated population Cardiac trouble has been issue so there can be possible link to Diet and traditional way of cooking that might have hand in this.

Anyway as part od medical community Its not a new thing to know that Punajb is facing trouble in herat disesae cases and also new Syndromes Like Syndrom X have emerged in Northern India in which there is accelerated damage to blood vesels and lead to early Heart trouble than usual. and this the reason In punjab we have everypossible multinational Corporate Hospital with ist brach in all major city like escorts , apollo , fortis .
They all are just waiting for heart of punjabis to fail and then they will charge you 3 lakh for bypass surgery
 

kds1980

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No wonder agriculture thing count nothin in new punjab I have forist hand experience of living in Rural Punjab and there is no major work left in field s to be done almost everything is mechanised with Tractors , Motors Harvesting machines so peopel here are just not using there bodies enough just like somebody living in new york and london ,And yes Obesity is among top 5 Health troubles in USA .

Its just more resources and less work simple

You missed my point of comparison with haryana.Tractors,motor harvesting is also available in haryana.
 

drkhalsa

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In all the disscusion I have lost the point that I was trying to make
But about Hrayana it has always been known as poor cousin of punjab was much behind development and also mechanisation of agriculture till recently 2004 ( now its per capit aincome is more than Punjab!)

So thi sprosperity will show its color in coming year and same is true about harayana Urban population they were much behind punjab and national average in prosparity and now they have crossed Punjab recently in many eco parameters so its effect will show up in due time


also If we talk about Obesity then Delhi , punjab stand first but in case of Heart trouble other states like kerela nd andhra are ahead of punjab and Hrayana is just next to Punjab But the reason are different its High slat intake in South , Smoking in Harayana and cholestrol in Punjab and delhi



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