I'm trying to check to see if the user hasn't entered anything in two text box controls. First i tried the following: - ================================ If txblead.Value = "" And txbcompany.Value = "" Then MsgBox "A lead without a contact? please try again" Exit Sub End If ================================= this generated an error, so i thought perhaps i needed null instead of a "" - so i tried the following: - ================================== If txblead.Value Is Null And txbcompany.Value Is Null Then MsgBox "A lead without a contact? please try again" Exit Sub End If ================================== this generates an error to. i need to check if BOTH fields are blank, and if they are then display my message box and exit the code. If they are not both blank then continue with the execution of my sub... what am i doing wrong please? thanks, Gary.