Covering of head in the precincts of the Golden Temple - a Panthik Requirement

[P J Singh]

Recently, someone shared a video of OSHO that is viral on internet (

) in which he regurgitates that he was stopped from entry in the precincts of Golden temple because he refused to cover his head. In his defense he quotes Guru Nanak Sahib's experience at Kaba.

OSHO is a brilliant philosopher and a man of versatile colours and the overall message in this video is quite intriguing. However, his concern in this video about he being not allowed to enter the Golden temple because of his refusal to cover his head, is profoundly ill founded and misleading. No matter how brilliant his discourses or his challenges of contemporary religious practices may be, we must not follow him or anyone else blindly and go along with what some one says or writes through blogs or other modes WITHOUT CRITICAL THINKING -- THIS IS WHAT OUR GURU'S TOUGHT US - use Bibak Budh.

Yes, he was a brilliant philosopher and he might have read Jap Ji but I am not sure if he knows anything more about Sikh School of Thought.

He went to Golden Temple and apparently did not have any issue taking off his shoes (out of respect as he might have done at other religious places) but he was adamant that he would not cover his head because God is everywhere. He then has the audacity to quote Guru Nanak Sahib’s profound experience at Kaba but he does not seem to know that in Sikhi, there is a foundational distinction between GURU and GOD -- GURU IS AN INTERMEDIATE THRESHOLD in the journey towards GOD. In Sikhi the primary goal of a devotee is to connect with GURU; once connected with GURU then GURU guides and connects him with GOD.

While GOD is everywhere GURU is not. Golden Temple is GURU Ka Dawar- it is Gurudawara— it is GURU’s house not only GOD’s house - GOD’s house is everywhere; Guru’s house is where Guru Granth Sahib is present. He was being asked to respect GURU by covering his head the same way he voluntarily took off his shoes out of respect as he must have been doing while visiting other temples.

Kudos to all those who stopped him from entering the Golden Temple for his refusal to respect our Guru by covering his head.

 

[gjsingh]

Well, he lead a vicious cult that committed the largest bioterror attack in US history, amongst other crimes and travesties. One would expect that the leader of such a cult would be a narcissistic egomaniac that would not respect any authority other than his own.

 

[A_seeker]

Golden Temple is GURU Ka Dawar-

As per Kavi Santoks Singh Golden Temple is a Vishnu MAndir

While GOD is everywhere GURU is not. Golden Temple is GURU Ka Dawar- it is Gurudawara— it is GURU’s house not only GOD’s house - GOD’s house is everywhere; Guru’s house is where Guru Granth Sahib is present. He was being asked to respect GURU by covering his head the same way he voluntarily took off his shoes out of respect as he must have been doing while visiting other temples.

You forgot to apply this logic "WITHOUT CRITICAL THINKING -- THIS IS WHAT OUR GURU'S TOUGHT US - use Bibak Budh." while writing above quote.
Don't be selective

 

[P J Singh]

As per Kavi Santoks Singh Golden Temple is a Vishnu MAndir


You forgot to apply this logic "WITHOUT CRITICAL THINKING -- THIS IS WHAT OUR GURU'S TOUGHT US - use Bibak Budh." while writing above quote.
Don't be selective

I would be interested in its source and correct reference to see the context before I comment. Can you please provide source and reference, I am sure as "A Seeker" you would have it.

 

[gjsingh]

As per Kavi Santoks Singh Golden Temple is a Vishnu MAndir

Why beat around the bush! What do YOU think? Harmandir Sahib is Vishnu temple: yes or no?

 

[A_seeker]

I would be interested in its source and correct reference to see the context before I comment. Can you please provide source and reference, I am sure as "A Seeker" you would have it.

In this age of information i am suprised you are uninformed
Read Volume Suraj Prakasg Granth Raas 2 ,Chapter 11 ੧੧. [ਤੀਰਥ ਪ੍ਰਗਟੌਣ ਹਿਤ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਵਿਚਾਰਨਾ]

The core theme of this chapter .
Harmandir Sahib (Golden Temple), and the Amritsar Sarovar are described as ancient Hindu pilgrimage sites (Tirths) rediscovered or established by deities like Brahma and Vishnu ..

The Granth claims the Akal Takht is a throne for Vishnu (Maka) and that Guru Hargobind was merely a manifestation of Vishnu sitting upon it
ਰਚਿ ਅਕਾਲ ਬੁੰਗਾ ਧਰਿ ਨਾਮੂ।
ਸਿਰਜੌਂ ਤਖਤ ਮਹਾਂ ਅਭਿਰਾਮੂ।
ਬੈਠੋਂ ਬੀਚ ਦਿਵਾਨ ਲਗਾਵੋਂ।
ਸਰਬ ਜਗਤ ਕੋ ਗੁਰ ਕਹਾਵੈਂ

 

[A_seeker]

Why beat around the bush! What do YOU think? Harmandir Sahib is Vishnu temple: yes or no?

This is Kavi Santokh Singh claims not mine .What do you think about the Kavi ???

 

[P J Singh]

In this age of information i am suprised you are uninformed
Read Volume Suraj Prakasg Granth Raas 2 ,Chapter 11 ੧੧. [ਤੀਰਥ ਪ੍ਰਗਟੌਣ ਹਿਤ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਵਿਚਾਰਨਾ]

The core theme of this chapter .
Harmandir Sahib (Golden Temple), and the Amritsar Sarovar are described as ancient Hindu pilgrimage sites (Tirths) rediscovered or established by deities like Brahma and Vishnu ..

The Granth claims the Akal Takht is a throne for Vishnu (Maka) and that Guru Hargobind was merely a manifestation of Vishnu sitting upon it
ਰਚਿ ਅਕਾਲ ਬੁੰਗਾ ਧਰਿ ਨਾਮੂ।
ਸਿਰਜੌਂ ਤਖਤ ਮਹਾਂ ਅਭਿਰਾਮੂ।
ਬੈਠੋਂ ਬੀਚ ਦਿਵਾਨ ਲਗਾਵੋਂ।
ਸਰਬ ਜਗਤ ਕੋ ਗੁਰ ਕਹਾਵੈਂ

You are correct, I am not as informed as you are.

For a meaningful and constructive dialogue it is better to focus on the topic of thread, rather than engaging in such off-the-cuff comments that are often made to disrupt a meaningful exchange. May I suggest, you please create a new thread on this topic giving full context and your thoughts; I am sure you will get meaningful response.

Many of us are aware that on public sites there are many organized groups, their role is primarily to create "noise" for whatever reason.

Thank you for citing the source, out of curiosity, I did check it out. It is verse 24 or 25 in Raas 2 , Chapter 11 of Suraj Parkash. HOWEVER, THERE IS NO SUCH INTERPRETION AS YOU SUGGESTED RATHER THERE IS THE FOLLOWING FOOTNOTE/SUPPORTING INFORMATION THAT YOU IGNORED.

 

[A_seeker]

Thank you for citing the source, out of curiosity, I did check it out. It is verse 24 or 25 in Raas 2 , Chapter 11 of Suraj Parkash. HOWEVER, THERE IS NO SUCH INTERPRETION AS YOU SUGGESTED

these two verses are not what I mentioned .Read the whole chapter titled ਤੀਰਥ ਪ੍ਰਗਟੌਣ ਹਿਤ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਵਿਚਾਰਨਾ to understand the context what this place is known by .

For a meaningful and constructive dialogue it is better to focus on the topic of thread,

I have listened what you shared the video .


let me remind you this forum believes that character of a Sikh in 21 st century should be based on reason ,logic not blind faith .. as shared in two images from Dr KSD lecture.

So keeping this in mind as a yardstick please specify what has Acharya Rajneesh said which you believe that he doesn't know about Sikh School.of thought

 

[P J Singh]

these two verses are not what I mentioned .Read the whole chapter titled ਤੀਰਥ ਪ੍ਰਗਟੌਣ ਹਿਤ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਵਿਚਾਰਨਾ to understand the context what this place is known by .

I have listened what you shared the video .


let me remind you this forum believes that character of a Sikh in 21 st century should be based on reason ,logic not blind faith .. as shared in two images from Dr KSD lecture.

So keeping this in mind as a yardstick please specify what has Acharya Rajneesh said which you believe that he doesn't know about Sikh School.of thought

___Reason, logic, blind faith is not a subject of 21th century; Guru Nanak Sahib underscored it over 550 years ago when as a child, he challenged and refused to wear "jenau" - the thread around is neck/shoulder.

-- I don't have anything more to say about Acharya Rajneesh but I will ask you to please watch the three video on Acharya Prashant, it may give you and your associates some wisdom.

 

[A_seeker]

Guru Nanak Sahib underscored it over 550 years ago when as a child, he challenged and refused to wear "jenau" - the thread around is neck/shoulder.

But his followers did not took his teachings seriously..Acharya Rajneesh is just reminding the Sikhs after 500 years.

It is convenient to be atheist towards other faith.

So keeping this in mind as a yardstick please specify what has Acharya Rajneesh said which you believe that he doesn't know about Sikh School.of thought

You haven't answered my question yet instead trying to go off track.. I am not interested in AP videos at the moment..