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In the middle of the last century, India and China were in the same place economically. Now China is three times richer. Its childhood malnutrition rate is far lower than India's. Yes, Indians are free, Thapar says — free to be poor.
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That is very interesting Vikram Singh ji

I know many people from China, immigrating in the last 15 to 20 years, mostly after attending school in the US. They are divided right down the middle regarding the way that the Chinese government has functioned. It is truly interesting to hear their reactions and opinions. Some will never to back even though travel is easier than ever for them -- because of the extensive human rights abuses that occur there. Others appreciate the order and rationality, and do not seem to be concerned about the heavy hand of government.
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Do you think that this might also be the case with the Indian populace? Would they be divided in the same way?

P/S I hope we have a good discussion about this article. Is it true -- the title -- that India can never beat China? China seems very interesting in keeping India pinned down.
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Re: India can never beat China in any field

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China invests a lot in infrastructure,India's quality health, education, food and housing have already gone beyond the reach of more than two-third Indians. Majority of the rest barely manage these through borrowings from the future or by indulging in corrupt and unfair means.
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Indian Democracy moves slowly.and it is so,corrupt. Infrastructure — roads, water, power — remains underdeveloped.

how can policy makers ensure quality education in rural schools when they are busy permitting the ‘global and international’ schools providing high-tech facilities and luxuries to the ultra rich?

India has one of the fastest widening of social inequalities, where rich are getting richer and poor are getting poorer. India is becoming rich land with poor people.
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I agree with it .India can never beat China.Main reason is Democracy .For undeveloped countries like India Democracy was not the best system to rule.China embraced pseudo
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communism and one party rule.Hardly any government in India spends much amount on infrastructure,reason they know by the time Fruit of that scheme is visible to people then they may not be in power,so they prefer distribute choclates like free power or rural employment schemes which are disaster for economy
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and maybe its because in China..the persons who actually DID all the work got the power...Mao and his Men...whereas in India it was the SIKHS who did most of the work..but others got the power...and this illegal grab is the reason to distribute chcolates (Packages ONLY to the people..the actual CHOCOLATE has already been eaten by the "donors" !!)..but the people are so damned stupid they accept the chcoloate paper covers as the real thing..ha ha ha..This is called LLAARRAA democracy..empty slogans..and after 60 years the Indians have becoem world class EXPERTS at LYING every five years.
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and maybe its because in China..the persons who actually DID all the work got the power...Mao and his Men...whereas in India it was the SIKHS who did most of the work..but others got the power...and this illegal grab is the reason to distribute chcolates (Packages ONLY to the people..the actual CHOCOLATE has already been eaten by the "donors" !!)..but the people are so damned stupid they accept the chcoloate paper covers as the real thing..ha ha ha..This is called LLAARRAA democracy..empty slogans..and after 60 years the Indians have becoem world class EXPERTS at LYING every five years.
It is not the problems of Indians only.Power grabbing ,fighting with each other is human nature.This could go really terrible if a country is developing
or undeveloped.Look at pakistan , bangladesh,Nepal ,African countries.Many intellectuals thought that once colinial rule end then peace and prosperity will return but instead of that in many countries situation really got terrible.

The fact is chinese system of pseudo communism is quite better ruling a country which is undeveloped or developing.After all China can easily throw google out if they feel that it is threatening them while India can't
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and YES Pakistan is in even worse shape...militray dictatorships not withstanding...and ALMOST ALL the previous Britsh Governed countries are getting from bad to worse..with exceptions like SINGAPORE..which is at the BEST (TOP)......and Zimbawe (Rhodesia) at its WORST (ROCK BOTTOM)..and all the others somewhere in between...so much so that people almosy YEARN for the Good old Colonial tiems when the trains ran on time..the water coming out fo the municipal taps was pure, the police actually caught criminals and not peaceful innocent sitizens, the armed forces fought external enemies instead of massacring own citizens..etc..etc..and Parliaments had decent members and not convicted criminals and murderers...
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and YES Pakistan is in even worse shape...militray dictatorships not withstanding...and ALMOST ALL the previous Britsh Governed countries are getting from bad to worse..with exceptions like SINGAPORE..which is at the BEST (TOP)......and Zimbawe (Rhodesia) at its WORST (ROCK BOTTOM)..and all the others somewhere in between...so much so that people almosy YEARN for the Good old Colonial tiems when the trains ran on time..the water coming out fo the municipal taps was pure, the police actually caught criminals and not peaceful innocent sitizens, the armed forces fought external enemies instead of massacring own citizens..etc..etc..and Parliaments had decent members and not convicted criminals and murderers...
Singapore is more like a city than country.Its area is 704 sq km half the size of Delhi.It is just a trading hub with no problems of what a real country face
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Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
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Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
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Low-Cost Producers.What makes china such a formidable manufacturing center? It has an abundant pool of young, high school-educated workers earning about $1.50 a day, with millions more entering the workforce each year. China's many universities and institutes are turning out well-trained yet relatively low-paid entineers. The cost of industrial land is among the cheapest in the world--about $25 per square meter in Shanghai, half the price of that in Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok and 60 times cheaper than in Yokohama, Japan.
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China's success comes at the expense of workers and companies throughout the developing world that offer cheap labor but not much else. Even in India, which has some of the planet's lowest wages, low-tech industries can't compete with the Chinese in productivity. Shops in Bombay and Calcutta are flodded with Chinese goods. The Indian government is so worred about China that it has refused to allow Chinese software companies to locate in the high-tech center of Bangalore and scotched plans by software powerhouse Infosys Technologies to train 200 Chinese employees in India.



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Let me ask another question -- I think it is related. Under Indira Ghandi there were efforts toward socialist management of the economy accompanied by significant restrictions on economic and individual freedoms. Her government had more than a flirtation with the Soviet Union, which at that time was still governed under Stalinist principles of economics and governance. No freeing up for years to come. She introduced similar notions in India.

It is my understanding, perhaps incorrect, that under Indira the Indian economy stagnated, and there was a huge brain drain of professionals to the West. Most of the Indian emigres that I know here came to the US during that period.
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This was almost like a laboratory experiment in a way. Why did it fizzle in the end? If her policies were beneficial should they not have been continued by her successors after her assassination?
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