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| | | | | Re: Obama to skip Tibet while talking about human rights in Asia kanwardeep singh ji
It occurred to me that you thought the US should play hard ball with China. I don't disagree completely with that.
The point that I was making -- not to clearly I admit -- is that China is a very immedidate and midterm threat to India. So for Obama to take a step with China over Tibet -- without considering the consequences it could have for India -- would be a huge mistake.
I wonder if the US has said to China -- We won't say anything about Tibet. We won't meet with the Dalai Lama -- if you stay out of the border territories of northern India where you are now showing your muscle and disputing territorial rights. My theory is that all wars are zoning disputes on a magnified scale. I don't know what word you use in India for "zoning dispute" but there may be some sort of trade-off going on there.
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15-Nov-2009, 14:04 PM
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| | | | | Re: Obama to skip Tibet while talking about human rights in Asia Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanwardeep Singh Yes india cannot fight war with China but China too cannot afford bad relations With USA ,they are their biggest customers of manufactured products.Also like India China too have to feed 1.4 billion people and USA has too much surplus grain.so USA is far more powerful than China .By not meeting Dalai lama and not raising tibet human right issue Obama is showing submissive attituide , not a sign of World's most powerful country |
The Peoples Republic of China currently holds about a trillion dollars in US Treasury securities. It also keeps an equally huge sum of it's national reserve funds in US dollars. And if they were to one day decide to dump or exchange these dollars for another currency or a rare metal...strange things would happen to the prices on loaves of bread in the US (made by american grains).
In other words, they have the US by the ....... fill in blank
fact is, china and usa are now economically tied at the hip, throwing sissy punches (harsh language) over tibet would not accomplish much (in my opinion). more important priorities is stopping china's counterfit market and their currency manipulation to help curb the trade deficits...this is USA's top priority with regards to china...not warfare over mountains or even human rights.
the way the US congress is spending, the US national debt will reach 15-16 trillion (100% of the nations annual GDP) by the end of next year...
and this time there is no baby boom generational growth in america to help absorb such expansion in debt. they are going to be printing their way out of this one...and when you print something ... you always need a buyer. | | The following member appreciates Sinister Ji for the above message. | | 
15-Nov-2009, 14:19 PM
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| | | | | Re: Obama to skip Tibet while talking about human rights in Asia Quote: |
fact is, china and usa are now economically tied at the hip, throwing sissy punches (harsh language) over tibet would not accomplish much (in my opinion). more important priorities is stopping china's counterfit market and their currency manipulation to help curb the trade deficits...this is USA's top priority with regards to china...not warfare over mountains or even human rights.
| Thanks for proving that whether a powerful man or a country oppresses weak then no one should talk about it.I am not saying that US should go with war on China over Tibet issue
Obama is speaking on Human rights issue's in Asia and He is skipping Tibet out of fear of china.
Indirect message All smaller countries do as much human right abuses on weaker communities,don't mess with powerful one. | | The following member appreciates kds1980 Ji for the above message. | | 
15-Nov-2009, 14:42 PM
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| | | | | Re: Obama to skip Tibet while talking about human rights in Asia Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanwardeep Singh Thanks for proving that whether a powerful man or a country oppresses weak then no one should talk about it.I am not saying that US should go with war on China over Tibet issue
Obama is speaking on Human rights issue's in Asia and He is skipping Tibet out of fear of china.
Indirect message All smaller countries do as much human right abuses on weaker communities,don't mess with powerful one. | ?
I dont think he is skipping the tibet subject out of fear of china, more because of a respect for china.
he knows china is going to be the number one purchaser of US debt...
when has a drug junkie stood up to his dealer?
what was tibet anyways? a theocratic dictatorship of half starving serfs worshiping aristocratic monks? | 
15-Nov-2009, 18:34 PM
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| | | | | Re: Obama to skip Tibet while talking about human rights in Asia Quote: |
I dont think he is skipping the tibet subject out of fear of china, more because of a respect for china.
| And why he is respecting China? What china has done so good for the world.many times respect only come's from the fear Quote:
he knows china is going to be the number one purchaser of US debt...
when has a drug junkie stood up to his dealer?
| LOL are you saying USA is like a drug addict person.Is the condition of the USA is so weak
According to your hypothesis USA is now very weak like a Drug addict person so China is the new superpower Quote: |
what was tibet anyways? a theocratic dictatorship of half starving serfs worshiping aristocratic monks?
| The same question could be asked about any country.The fact is Tibet was free and what they wanted was Religious freedom which was not provided by communist China.Now look at Arunachal pradesh which is called south Tibet by china,in economic terms China may have given much more to Tibet but India gave Arunachal Religious freedom as a result despite being of mongloid race they speak Hindi.There is no separatist movement in Arunachal though there are many in North eastern India.If economic development is everything then we should again ask europian colonisers to capture countries in Africa
and Asia .After all they did so much economic development | 
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