UNITED SIKHS Complain to BBC Trust for Misuse of Sikh Insignia

Ishna · #10 (**permalink**) 28-Jun-2011, 10:01 AM

It occurs to me I may have offended people when I said "So does the community really view the Khanda as a Sikh religious symbol, or is it more a symbol now of Punjabi Pride?".

Sorry if I offended you, I didn't mean to say the khanda isn't a Sikh religious symbol, it obviously is as Kanwaljit pointed out is IS on the nishaan sahib.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/united-sikhs/36006-united-sikhs-complain-bbc-trust-misuse.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36006

And I guess my experiences have been limited since my experience has been that in the real world its very difficult to worm ones way into the Punjabi or Diaspora Sikh community especially when you can't speak Punjabi. You're always left on the outside of Punjabi conversations you don't understand and people tend to speak to you as if you don't know the first thing about Sikhism.

And it's not like I don't put myself out there.

spnadmin · #11 (**permalink**) 28-Jun-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishna

I'm confused... I do try to interact with the Sikhs at my Gurdwara... they are mostly diaspora from Malaysia/Singapore and most have spent a long time in Australia... the Punjabi Sikhs tend to go to Gurdwaras I don't visit often... when I do go there they don't tend to talk to me.

I don't recall seeing any khandas on the cars in the carpark at my Gurdwara.

I said, "Ump!" whatever that means when I read this. I was suggesting that gurdwara and the Internet are each in their own way local cultures and do not represent all of the variations of Sikhi that can be met elsewhere. It was supposed to be an upbeat suggestion. I guess I wasn't clear. Gurdwara might be a skewed world. My own experience was to know Sikhs before going to gurdwara here there and everywhere and that gave me a different starting point. So when I ran into hard spots they affected me, but the effects were short-lived ... because I realized that some Sikhs are just rude people, and others are simply ignorant, just like everyone else. However, there are many Sikhs who are really helpful and had a positive influence on me. Sikhi is not a given, simply because on is labeled a Sikh. Maybe I should leave it alone now.

I do not know that anyone was offended

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It occurs to me I may have offended people when I said "So does the community really view the Khanda as a Sikh religious symbol, or is it more a symbol now of Punjabi Pride?".

This is more to the point of what I was trying to say above...perhaps badly

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It occurs to me I may have offended people when I said "So does the community really view the Khanda as a Sikh religious symbol, or is it more a symbol now of Punjabi Pride?".

You don't have to worm your way in. Some people will open their hearts and homes because that is what they do. Others won't. Just be yourself.

Ishna · #12 (**permalink**) 28-Jun-2011, 10:56 AM

I'm an idiot who needs to lighten up! Good thing you lot are so tolerant! kaurhug

spnadmin · #13 (**permalink**) 28-Jun-2011, 12:52 PM

Ishna ji

Not so............Why are you saying that? Rhetorical question only! Go easy on yourself. welcomekaur