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Who is the Present Guru of the Sikhs?

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Who is the Present Guru of Sikhs?

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  1. Admin Singh

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    This question was raised by SPN members while taking Quizzes on Sikhism about: who is the present Guru of Sikhs? Are Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Panth Khalsa collective Guru of Sikhs? Intellectuals may put light on the issue in full length.
     
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    Sat shri akal,:D
    what i think is that Shri Guru Granth Sahib and Panth Khalsa is collectively the present sikh Guru :yes:. After the line of corporeal gurus was brought to an end by Guru Gobind Singh, the Khalsa Panth was installed its own leader under the abiding guidance of Guru Granth Sahib and guru ji himself was a member of khalsa panth.:yes: This may be cleared by the following lines by Guru gobind singh ji :yes: --
    The Khalsa is my own special form
    Within the Khalsa I’ll ever abide,
    The Khalsa is the life of my life;
    The Khalsa is the breath of my breath.
    The Khalsa is my worshipful lord.
    The Khalsa is my saintly kinght.
    --Guru Nanak(the 10th)
     
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    I think Sri Guru Granth SAhib is the present guru of the Sikhs because it was given Guru gaddi by Guru Gobind Singh ji. Now about Khalsa, by Guru SGGS does not say anything, therefore, to me Khalsa is just Khalsa, nothing I need to bother with now. Of course, I am talking about the discipline started by Guru Gobind SIngh ji.
     
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    Sat shri akal,:D
    bhagat singh ji,
    why dont u just read the lines above in my post :inca:
     
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    I read your whole post. Do you want me to take a look at something specific?
     
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    Sat shri akal,
    yes bhagat ji:inca:
    This may be cleared by the following lines by Guru gobind singh ji :yes: --
    The Khalsa is my own special form
    Within the Khalsa I’ll ever abide,
    The Khalsa is the life of my life;
    The Khalsa is the breath of my breath.
    The Khalsa is my worshipful lord.
    The Khalsa is my saintly kinght.
    --
    Guru Nanak(the 10th)
     
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    That made nothing clear, please explain. OH and BTW none of that is in SGGS, the present Guru of the SIkhs.
     
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    Bhagat Singh ji please tell us where in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji it says Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the present Guru of the Sikhs? And this question is to anyone that says the Panj Pyare or Guru Khalsa Panth can never be Guru.
     
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    Well, if by SGGS not saying that it is Guru means that it is not Guru, then Sikhs have never had a Guru. None of the Gurus said they were Guru BUT when they passed on the Guruship, we always turned towards the new one. SGGS should be no exception.

    SGGS does not mention Khalsa therefore, it is not important.
     
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    Sat shri akal,:D
    thank you singh ji for ur back up . atleast someone has a similar thought
    Bhagat ji, can u tell me the reason why the presence of both SGGS and panj pyare is required for any ceremony why cant it be done only by having SGGS and not panj pyare .:down:
     
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    I didn't know panja pyare were required for any ceremony. If I could change that I would.
    But I guess panj pyare are important part of out history so maybe that's why. So I wouldn't in the end.:D
     
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    Sat shri akal,
    Guru ji once said that anyone who is standing infront of a true khalsa with 5 ks is standing infront of me.dont ask if it is in the granth
     
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    Well, first of all he considered true people even muslims to be Khalsa.
    Secondly, it doesn't say in SGGS therefore it is not important unless you want to study it, etc.

    So SGGS is our present guru. Its the one we have to follow now. :yes:
     
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    So how did we find out that after Guru Nanak Dev ji who was the next Guru?
     
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    Guru Nanak passed on the guruship to Bhai Lehna.
     
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    And how did he do this?
     
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    I don't know you're going to have to ask someone else.
     
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    Alright another question, how did Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji pass on the Guruship to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji?
     
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    Same way as any other guru.
     
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    so in other words you don't know?
     

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