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USA White house refuses to declare 1984 riots as genocide

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    White house refuses to declare 1984 riots as genocide

    Tuesday, April, 02 2013 - 12:09

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    WASHINGTON: The US administration today refused to declare the 1984 anti-sikh riots in India as genocide, but the Obama administration noted that grave human rights violations had occurred.

    The White House reaction in this regard came months after a segment of the sikh community in the US launched an online petition campaign. The community urged the Obama administration to recognise the 1984 riots as genocide.

    The petition was created on November 15 had generated more than 30,000 signatures in less than a week. Each petition that crosses the threshold of 25,000 signatures is reviewed and receive a response.

    "During and after the 1984 violence, the United States monitored and publicly reported on the grave human rights violations that occurred and the atrocities committed against members of the sikh community," the White House response said.

    It noted that the US State Department's official Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, for example, covered the violence and its aftermath in detail, with sections on political killings, disappearances, denial of fair public trials, negative effects on freedom of religion, and the government's response to civil society organisations investigating allegations of human rights violations.

    "We continue to condemn -- and more importantly, to work against - violence directed at people based on their religious affiliation. US Government efforts to protect the rights and freedoms of all people have long been a feature of our foreign policy. Our diplomats regularly report on and speak out against violence against minorities around the world," the White House said in response to the online petition.

    Expressing disappointment over the response, the proponents of the petition in a statement said that the Obama Administration "fails to take position on sikh genocide".

    "The response ignores the recent discoveries of mass graves of Sikhs killed during 1984 and falls short of taking a position on the issue of Genocide," said a statement issued by Gurpatwant S Pannun, who heads the New York-based 'Sikh for Justice' group.

    (Inputs from agencies)

    source: http://www.punjabnewsline.com/news/White-house-refuses-to-declare-1984-riots-as-genocide.html
     
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    One interesting aspect of this story, among many. Another version by another news outlet begins by stating the supporters of Khalistan would be disappointed. http://postnoon.com/2013/04/02/us-refuses-to-declare-1984-riots-in-india-as-genocide/117501

    I am amazed because Khalistan does not even have to be in the mix for pure numbers of atrocities and violations of human rights to shock.

    What is the administration's working definition of genocide?

    How influenced is the Obama administration by pressure by Cong?

    Related to US foreign policy now: (1) The ongoing trial in New York federal courts of Kamal Nash who was not granted diplomatic immunity by Judge Sweet. (2) The most recent legal wrangling in Wisconsin federal court over charges brought against Badal over whether or not he received a subpoena as a defendant under Alien Torts Claims Act and Torture Victims Protection Act.

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...ture-victims-protection-act-rights-violations

    These cases which Sikhs for Justice has pursued stateside and in international court have to be edgy for the Obama administration. Sikhs for Justice is pursuing a persistent and methodical legal strategy used by Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center that put Christian identity groups out of business.

    "Meanwhile he (Pannum of Sikhs for Justice) said that Punjab Police officers also attended the hearing and were specially sent on the mission to gather intelligence about the activities of the groups and individuals who have filed human rights violations case against Badal." in another linked article http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...-alien-torts-claims-act-oak-creek-high-school

    Where next?
     
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    Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh!

    Forgive me for the ignorance that i may display within what i write.

    The question is, usually the government are the one who mostly commit the crime by not showing signs of justice and also play the game of dirty politics to get their way. Why would anyone go to the government to help establish and expose a country that violently killed innocent people when the government are known for doing the exact same, especially the US government?

    And also it would be a failed attempt to get the US government to help us, especially now that North Korea is declaring and wanting war with the stated.

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    It would work in the US because of "separation of powers." That is how the US constitution is set up.

    In the US the courts and prosecution attorneys/district attorneys are part of the Judicial branch of government - which is independent of the executive branch (president) and legislative branch (senate and congress). The set up is as it is so that citizens can sue the government as well as anyone else. It happens all the time. The government does not always win.


    We do not have a Queen. Therefore the prosecution of a case is not by a Queen's Councilor. Nor is the judge a a Lord or member of the Queen's judiciary.

    If the president tries to meddle through the State Department a judge is free to slap him around.

    Therefore, you can go to the government for redress of grievances at either the state or federal level. That is what Sikhs for Justice has been doing for about 2 years now in combo with SPLC and Morris Dees. Dees is a consultant to Sikhs for Justice.
     
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    Quoting Ravi Singh ji of Khalsa Aid:

     
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    Let's say for the sake of the argument that the President of the US declares 1984 Holocaust against Sikhs as genocide.

    How does that benefit the widows and orphans of the carnage in a practical manner?

    What is our main objective for this declaration?

    Why didn't he declare why women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, our BFF?

    President Bush never declared the genocide in Darfur for years where millions were slaughtered.

    These token gestures mean nothing if the culprits are not under the Interpol watch and can be arrested the moment they leave India and tried in the International Court at The Hague because they are getting away with murder in the Indian Justice System .

    The rest are just a feel good meaningless empty gestures.

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    Power means support and supporters.
    Obama may have the biggest job on the planet second to God, but at the end of the day the administration decisions are all about how it may affect supporters or voters.
    I'm sure that the administration realises that if it doesn't declare an act of genocide then
    1) it may leave the happy friendship with India without any disruption, and
    2) it won't gain or lose any significant amount of supporters or voters in US.
     
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    Obama is a hoax just like Manmohan both agents of Banksters like Rothschild.


    It is foolish to expect anything from White House.
     

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