Welcome to SPN

Register and Join the most happening forum of Sikh community & intellectuals from around the world.

Sign Up Now!

Sakhis What really happened in Mecca?

Discussion in 'History of Sikhism' started by Gyani Jarnail Singh, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. Gyani Jarnail Singh

    Gyani Jarnail Singh Malaysia
    Expand Collapse
    Sawa lakh se EK larraoan
    Mentor Writer SPNer Contributor

    Jul 4, 2004
    Likes Received:
    What Really happened in Mecca. Popular Sikh Beleif has been that Guru nanak Ji visited Mecca and "swung Mecca around". This is challeneged by Muslims as wrong...so what really happened...

    The Sikh version of this story ( many believe it is a MIRACLE..no less !!)
    is based on Bhai Gurdass Jis Vaar No. 32.

    Bhai Gurdass Jis Vaar clearly says that Baba Nanak went to Mecca wearing Neel Bastar - cloth acceptable in Mulsim Mecca, He ahd his book with him, and the Musalla..the Cloth/Mat used by Muslims for Prayers. Baba nanak then went to rest in a MOSQUE that Hajis usedand when night fell Baba nanak Ji fell asleep..with his FEET towards the MEHRAAB...the Special SECTION in a Mosque that signified the DIRECTION OF MECCA. The word MEHRAAB is significant....so is MECCA....

    1. Firstly what is "MECCA" in Gurbani ?
    On reading Gurbani as recorded in SGGS..
    ਮਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਕਾ ਕਿਬਲਾ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਹੀ॥
    ਬੋਲਨਹਾਰੁ ਪਰਮ ਗੁਰੁ ਏਹੀ॥ ੧॥
    ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ, ਪੰਨਾ ੧੧੫੮

    Page 1158...the MECCA is MANN..the MIND...NOT the PHYSICAL PLACE in SAUDI ARABIA. Mann kar MECCA..make the Mann your MECCA..the KIBLA (direction of Mecca) your BODY !!

    Now back to the Bhai Gurdass Ji Vaar..

    We have determined that Bhai Gurdass Ji NEVER SAID anything about Baba nanak Jis feet towards MECCA...the word used is MEHRAAB..the special place in a MOSQUE that shows direction of Mecca and is used for Preaching.

    Follwoing Bhai Gurdass Ji further...
    JEEVAN Maree Latt dee...
    Here again words have been grossly MISUNDERSTOOD. The METAPHOR of "Latt" where the word latt is spelled with Siharee means a HABIT..a BAD HABIT. It is commonly said in Punjabi..so and so has Latt of Gambling..drug abuse..remaining idle...unemployable...etc..etc..Metaphorically such aBad habit is a "weight" tied to ones LEGS..making proper walking impossible (Walking on Life's Path ) Here the word JEEVAN is misunderstood to be anme of a KAZI..and the word Latt is mistakenly taken to be Baba nanak jis FEET/LEGS.
    The actual meaning of the Line is..a Person with bad habit who has lost the "art" of Living..a lost human being...a human who doesnt have the Manners of a Good Muslim (hence a ***** in Muslim Garb )
    A Kazi came..and seeing Baba Nanak ji sleeping in that position angrily pulled at Baba Jis legs and...Baba nanak "turned HIS MANN..his Mecca..with His Logic. The Vital point to note is that Baba nanak Ji had His FEET towards the MEHRAAB...But the MEHRAAB did not TURN/REVOLVE....its the "Mecca" that Turned/revolved..and "Mecca" as we have INTERNAL PROOF from Gurbani of SGGS..is NOT a physical place but the Mann in Human Body.
    So its very simple..the Kazi came in great anger..but when He "touched" Baba Nanak Jis "charans of aatmik Gyaan..Divine Knowledge...and had a discussion with Guru Ji..he was convinced and his Mann, his "mecca" shifted towards the Logic and divinity of Guru nanak Jis Message.

    And what is the Kala..the Miracle here. SGGS once more..
    ਹਰਿ ਮੰਦਰੁ ਏਹੁ ਸਰੀਰੁ ਹੈ ਗਿਆਨਿ ਰਤਨਿ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ॥
    ਮਨਮੁਖ ਮੂਲੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਨੀ ਮਾਣਸਿ ਹਰਿ ਮੰਦਰੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ॥
    ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ, ਪੰਨਾ ੧੩੪੬ Page 1346

    The Place of divine RESIDENCE is this HUMAN BODY. God..Allah..Waheguru..Raam..Krishan..Gopi..Narayan..doesnt LIVE/RESIDE in nay ONE PARTICULAR HOLY PLACE. I think its is Kabir Ji who asks..IF Allah the Creator resides in the "west/Mecca" then WHO pray....takes care of the EAST ?? This is also an indication of Gurmatt stand on "special holy place of residence of The Creator". The CREATOR RESIDES in HIS CREATION.

    Once the Kazi and his co-religionists understood this Vital Message..and changed their THINKING..their Mann..the "miracle" occurred..the "mecca turned"

    Why such a GROSS MISUNDERSTANDING ? Simple answer is we are LOSING our expertise in our beautiful language, its Metaphors and Usage. having lost all that valuable VIRSA..we are left at the mercy of ILLETERATE Sants/babas/derawallahs who go of the EXTREMELY SUPERFICIAL MEANINGS...and MISLEAD everyone else. The REST are so GULLIBLE..that they swallow hook line and sinker wahtever the gyani, the parcharak, the granthi, the baba,,the brahmgyani..the snat ji says..as "surely HE KNOWS"..its HIS DUTY TO KNOW..we are mere Sikhs..have other reesponisbilities..work,..families..jobs...why we must waste time learning Gurbani...and SO the BLIND LEAD THE BLIND..all one happy family.

    Adapted with thanks from. Sikh Marg ???? ????
    ALL ERRORS and Exceptions in ENGLISH...mine. JsGyani.
    ਬਾਬਾ ਫਿਰ ਮਕੇ ਗਯਾ
    ਬਾਬਾ ਫਿਰ ਮਕੇ ਗਯਾ ਨੀਲ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਧਾਰੇ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ॥
    ਆਸਾ ਹਥ ਕਿਤਾਬ ਕਛ ਕੂਜਾ ਬਾਂਗ ਮੁਸਲਾ ਧਾਰੀ॥
    ਬੈਠਾ ਜਾਇ ਮਸੀਤ ਵਿੱਚ ਜਿਥੇ ਹਾਜੀ ਹਜ ਗੁਜਾਰੀ॥
    ਜਾ ਬਾਬਾ ਸੁਤਾ ਰਾਤ ਨੂੰ ਵਲ ਮਹਿਰਾਬੇ ਪਾਇ ਪਸਾਰੀ॥
    ਜੀਵਨ ਮਾਰੀ ਲਤਿ ਦੀ ਕੇਹੜਾ ਸੁਤਾ ਕੁਫ਼ਰ ਕੁਫ਼ਾਰੀ॥
    ਲਤਾ ਵਲ ਖ਼ੁਦਾਇ ਦੇ ਕਿਉਕਰ ਪਇਆ ਹੋਇ ਬਜਗਾਰੀ॥
    ਟੰਗੋ ਪਕੜ ਘਸੀਟਿਆ ਫਿਰਿਆ ਮਕਾ ਕਲਾ ਦਿਖਾਰੀ॥
    ਹੋਇ ਹੈਰਾਨ ਕਰੇਨ ਜੁਹਾਰੀ॥
    ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ, ਵਾਰ ੩੨

    ਸਾਰੀ ਪਉੜੀ ਉੱਪਰ ਤਾਂ ਖੁੱਲ ਕੇ ਅੱਗੇ ਵੀਚਾਰ ਕਰਾਂਗੇ। ਇਥੇ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ ਜੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹ ਦੇ ਮੱਕੇ ਜਾਣ ਦਾ ਵਰਨਣ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਨ। ਭਾਈ ਜੀ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਹਨ ਜਦੋਂ ਬਾਬਾ ਰਾਤ ਨੂੰ ਸੁੱਤਾ ਤਾਂ ਮਹਿਰਾਬ ਵੱਲ ਗੁਰੂ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹ ਬਾਬੇ ਨੇ ਪੈਰ ਕਰ ਲਏ। ਇਹ ਗੱਲ ਯਾਦ ਰੱਖਣੀ ਅਤਿਅੰਤ ਜ਼ਰੂਰੀ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਪੈਰ ਮਹਿਰਾਬ ਵਲ ਕੀਤੇ, ਮੱਕੇ ਵਲ ਨਹੀਂ। ਦੂਸਰੀ ਗੱਲ ਇਹ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਜੀਵਨ ਕਿਸੇ ਕਾਜ਼ੀ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਨਹੀਂ, ਇਥੇ ਜੀਵਣ ਦੀ ਗੱਲ ਹੈ।
    ਜੀਵ - ਜੀਵਣ
    ਮਾਰੀ - ਖ਼ਤਮ, ਮਰੀ ਹੋਈ ਬੁੱਧੀ (ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਜੀਵਣ ਦੀ ਸੂਝ ਨਹੀਂ)
    ਜੀਵਨ ਮਾਰੀ * ਜੀਵਣ ਪੱਖ ਤੋਂ ਖਤਮ ਹੋਇਆ, ਭਾਵ ਜੀਵਣ ਪੱਖ ਤੋਂ ਹਾਰਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ ਮਨੁੱਖ
    ਲਤਿ - ਬੁਰੀ ਵਾਦੀ, ਭੈੜੀ ਆਦਤ (ਲਤਿ ਦੇ ‘ਤ’ ਨੂੰ ਸਿਹਾਰੀ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਦਾ ਮਤਲਬ ਲਤਿ ਲਗ ਗਈ ਹੈ ਜਾਂ ਬੁਰੀ ਆਦਤ ਪੈ ਗਈ ਹੈ)
    ਭਾਈ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੇ ਸਾਫ ਅਤੇ ਸਪਸ਼ਟ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਜਦੋਂ ਬਾਬਾ ਰਾਤ ਨੂੰ ਸੌਣ ਸਮੇਂ ਮਹਿਰਾਬ ਵਲ ਪੈਰ ਕਰ ਕੇ ਸੌਂ ਗਿਆ, ਤਾਂ ਕਾਜ਼ੀ ਨੇ ਆਣ ਕੇ ਇਹ ਕਿਹਾ ਕਿ ਕਿਹੜਾ ਜੀਵਣ ਪੱਖ ਤੋਂ ਖ਼ਤਮ ਹੋਇਆ ਕਾਫਰ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਕੁਫਰ ਕਰ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ, ਜੋ ਖ਼ੁਦਾ ਦੇ ਘਰ ਵਲ ਪੈਰ ਕਰੀ ਪਿਆ ਹੈ। ਕਿਉਂ ਏਡਾ ਵੱਡਾ ਕੁਫਰ ਕੀਤਾ? ਕਿਉਂ ਏਡਾ ਵੱਡਾ ਪਾਪ ਕੀਤਾ?
    ਟੰਗੋ ਪਕੜ ਘਸੀਟਿਆ ਫਿਰਿਆ ਮਕਾ ਕਲਾ ਦਿਖਾਰੀ॥
    ਹੋਇ ਹੈਰਾਨ ਕਰੇਨ ਜੁਹਾਰੀ॥
    ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ, ਵਾਰ ੩੨

    ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਪੰਗਤੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਬੜੀ ਗਹਿਰਾਈ ਨਾਲ ਸਮਝਣ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਹੈ। ਇਥੇ ਭਾਈ ਜੀ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਪੈਰ ਮਹਿਰਾਬ ਵੱਲ ਕੀਤੇ ਅਤੇ ਕਾਜ਼ੀ ਨੇ ਗੁੱਸੇ ਅੰਦਰ ਆ ਕੇ ਬੁਰਾ-ਭਲਾ ਬੋਲਦੇ ਹੋਏ ਨੇ ਲੱਤਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਪਕੜ ਕੇ ਘਸੀਟਿਆ। ਤਦ ਫਿਰਿਆ ਮੱਕਾ (ਮਹਿਰਾਬ ਨਹੀਂ ਪਰ ਪੈਰ ਤਾਂ ਮਹਿਰਾਬ ਵਲ ਕੀਤੇ ਹੋਏ ਸਨ)। ਸੋ ਸਾਨੂੰ ਇਹ ਸਮਝਣ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਕਿਹੜਾ ਮੱਕਾ ਫਿਰਿਆ ਅਤੇ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਮੱਕਾ ਕੀ ਹੈ। ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਮੱਕਾ ਕਹਿੰਦੀ ਕਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਹੈ? ਮਨ ਨੂੰ ਮੱਕਾ ਕਹਿੰਦੀ ਹੈ।
    ਮਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਕਾ ਕਿਬਲਾ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਹੀ॥
    ਬੋਲਨਹਾਰੁ ਪਰਮ ਗੁਰੁ ਏਹੀ॥ ੧॥
    ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ, ਪੰਨਾ ੧੧੫੮

    ਜਦੋਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਪਤਾਸ਼ਾਹ ਦੇ ਆਤਮਿਕ-ਗਿਆਨ ਰੂਪੀ ਚਰਨ ਛੋਹੇ, ਵਿਚਾਰ ਗੋਸ਼ਟੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਤਾਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਆਤਮਿਕ ਗਿਆਨ ਕਾਜ਼ੀ ਨੂੰ ਬਖ਼ਸ਼ਿਆ। ਇਸ ਆਤਮਿਕ ਗਿਆਨ ਨਾਲ ਫਿਰ ਕਾਜ਼ੀ ਨੂੰ ਸੱਚ ਦੀ ਸਮਝ ਪਈ ਅਤੇ ਉਸ ਦਾ ਮਨ ਰੂਪੀ ਮੱਕਾ ਫਿਰਿ ਗਿਆ। ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਦਿੱਤੇ ਇਸ ਗਿਆਨ ਨਾਲ ਸਾਰੇ ਹੈਰਾਨ ਹੋ ਗਏ। ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਕਲਾ ਕਿਹੜੀ ਦਿਖਾਈ?
    ਹਰਿ ਮੰਦਰੁ ਏਹੁ ਸਰੀਰੁ ਹੈ ਗਿਆਨਿ ਰਤਨਿ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ॥
    ਮਨਮੁਖ ਮੂਲੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਨੀ ਮਾਣਸਿ ਹਰਿ ਮੰਦਰੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ॥
    ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ, ਪੰਨਾ ੧੩੪੬

    ਸੋ ਵੀਚਾਰਧਾਰਾ ਬਦਲਣ ਦੀ ਕਲਾ ਦਿਖਾਈ ਅਤੇ ਮਨ ਰੂਪੀ ਮੱਕਾ ਘੁਮਾ ਦਿੱਤਾ। ਮਨ ਬਦਲ ਦਿਤੇ, ਮਾਨਸਿਕ ਅਵਸਥਾ ਬਦਲ ਦਿੱਤੀ।
    ਜਬ ਬੁਧਿ ਹੋਤੀ ਤਬ ਬਲੁ ਕੈਸਾ ਅਬ ਬੁਧਿ ਬਲੁ ਨ ਖਟਾਈ॥
    ਕਹਿ ਕਬੀਰ ਬੁਧਿ ਹਰਿ ਲਈ ਮੇਰੀ ਬੁਧਿ ਬਦਲੀ ਸਿਧਿ ਪਾਈ॥
    ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ, ਪੰਨਾ ੩੩੯

    ਬੁੱਧੀ ਅੰਦਰ ਬਦਲਾਅ ਆਉਣ ਲਈ ਹੀ ਫਿਰੈ ਲਫਜ਼ ਵਰਤਿਆ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ, ਸੋ ਬੁਧਿ ਬਦਲਣਾ ਹੀ ਮਨ ਰੂਪੀ ਮੱਕਾ ਫਿਰਨਾ ਹੈ।
    ਜੋ ਸਾਡੀ ਆਪਣੀ ਅਸਲ ਅਤੇ ਸਾਦੀ ਪੁਰਾਣੀ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਸੀ, ਉਹ ਅਸੀਂ ਤਕਰੀਬਨ ਗਵਾ ਚੁੱਕੇ ਹਾਂ। ਜਿਵੇਂ ਪੁਰਾਣੇ ਸਮੇਂ ਅੰਦਰ ਕਿਸੇ ਹੋਰ ਮਤਿ ਧਾਰਨ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਲੇ ਆਦਮੀ ਨੂੰ ਸੁਭਾਵਕ ਹੀ ਕਹਿ ਦਿੰਦੇ ਸਨ, ਕਿ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਸਿਰ ਫਿਰ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ। ਉਸ ਬੰਦੇ ਦਾ ਕੋਈ ਮੂੰਹ ਫਿਰ ਕੇ ਪਿਠ ਵੱਲ ਤਾਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦਾ। ਹੋਰ, ਜੇ ਕਿਸੇ ਨੂੰ ਬੁਰੀ ਆਦਤ ਪੈ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਸੀ ਤਾਂ ਕਹਿ ਦਿੰਦੇ ਸਨ, ਕਿ ਇਸ ਨੂੰ ਲਤਿ ਲਗ ਗਈ ਹੈ। ਸੋ ਇਸੇ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ, ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਦੀ ਵੀਚਾਰਧਾਰਾ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਬੁੱਧਿ ਅੰਦਰ ਬਦਲਾਅ ਆਉਣਾ (ਫਿਰਨਾ) ਹੀ ਘੁੰਮਣਾ ਹੈ।
    ਇਥੇ ਹੁਣ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ ਜੀ ਵਲੋਂ ਉਚਾਰਣ ਕੀਤੀ ੨੫ਵੀਂ ਵਾਰ ਦੀ ਚੌਥੀ ਪਉੜੀ ਸਮਝਣ ਦੀ ਬਹੁਤ ਜ਼ਰੂਰਤ ਹੈ।
    • Like Like x 7
  2. Loading...

    Similar Threads Forum Date
    What Really Happened on The Baisakhi Day in 1699? Sikh Sikhi Sikhism Jun 18, 2013
    Poetry Really! Don’t know what happened to me. Punjab, Punjabi, Punjabiyat Nov 11, 2011
    Opinion Feeling Of Turban On Head 'really Gratifying': Ben Kingsley Sikh Sikhi Sikhism May 26, 2016
    Who Are The Sikhs, Really ? Questions and Answers Feb 7, 2016
    The Illusion Of matter: Our Physical World Really Isn't Physical At All General Nov 26, 2015

  3. Gyani Jarnail Singh

    Gyani Jarnail Singh Malaysia
    Expand Collapse
    Sawa lakh se EK larraoan
    Mentor Writer SPNer Contributor

    Jul 4, 2004
    Likes Received:
    Re: What really happeend in Mecca ??

    Sir Phiriya..Sir Phir gaya..Head turned...is also a popular metaphor for "Change of Mind"..change of convictions...no Physical turning of head towards Back happens..
    The Vital word is "PHER" PHIRIYA...meaning TURN...:D:D
  4. Tejwant Singh

    Tejwant Singh United States
    Expand Collapse
    Mentor Writer SPNer Contributor

    Jun 30, 2004
    Likes Received:
    Gyani ji,

    Guru Fateh.

    Thanks for the excellent explanation about the Mecca incident and its true meaning. Yes indeed, both Mecca and Pilgrimages dwell within a person so that the person can experience the true metamorphosis, from a crawling caterpillar to horizon exploring, nectar tasting butterfly.

    Kudos to our visionary Gurus who gave us the tools so we can stop crawling and start exploring the horizons of our own lives by making SGGS, our ONLY GURU, our only GPS.

    Thanks once again.

    Tejwant Singh
    • Like Like x 3
  5. Astroboy

    Astroboy Malaysia
    Expand Collapse
    ਨਾਮ ਤੇਰੇ ਕੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਲਗਾਈ (Previously namjap)
    Writer SPNer Contributor

    Jul 14, 2007
    Likes Received:
    Another way of viewing this is from the point of devotion. We all know that Guru Nanak's presence has had a overwhelming impact on the consciousness of those who came in close encounters with this Mahaan Hastee, our GuruJi.

    In one of the Punjabi/Urdu poems about Heer Ranjha called Ni Mein Kamli aa. The words are:-

    Haji Log Meccay Val Jandey, Ni Mera Ranjha Mera Mecca
    (Haji's go to Mecca, but My lover, Ranjha is my Mecca)

    So my take on this is that the attempt to put the inner shift in consciousness into appropriate words, does not do justice to the whole episode, having in mind that what is more real is the innerself than anything else outside of ourselves. We are spiritual beings living in a physical body. Thus, when we internalize an experience, we are heading in the right direction.

    ਮਾਝ ਮਹਲਾ
    माझ महला ५ ॥
    Mājẖ mėhlā 5.
    Maajh, Fifth Mehl:

    ਸਭ ਕਿਛੁ ਘਰ ਮਹਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਨਾਹੀ
    सभ किछु घर महि बाहरि नाही ॥
    Sabẖ kicẖẖ gẖar mėh bāhar nāhī.
    Everything is within the home of the self; there is nothing beyond.

    ਬਾਹਰਿ ਟੋਲੈ ਸੋ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਹੀ
    बाहरि टोलै सो भरमि भुलाही ॥
    Bāhar tolai so bẖaram bẖulāhī.
    One who searches outside is deluded by doubt.

    ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਜਿਨੀ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਪਾਇਆ ਸੋ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਸੁਹੇਲਾ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥
    गुर परसादी जिनी अंतरि पाइआ सो अंतरि बाहरि सुहेला जीउ ॥१॥
    Gur parsādī jinī anṯar pā▫i▫ā so anṯar bāhar suhelā jī▫o. ||1||
    By Guru's Grace, one who has found the Lord within is happy, inwardly and outwardly. ||1||

    Ang 102
    • Like Like x 1
    #4 Astroboy, Oct 8, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 5, 2016
  6. Gurmit Singh

    Gurmit Singh United States
    Expand Collapse

    Jan 29, 2009
    Likes Received:
    Respected Sikh Cyber Members,

    Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

    Prabhdeep Singh has already shared appropriate response but message needs to be passed on to Mr. Imran and other Keshadhari person of Ranchi, who could have explained to the participating audiances. However, this may be done now by the Editors of Sikh Magazines in Punjab. For instance, S. Ramesh Singh of Jamshedpur or any other Sikh within Bihar, Jharkhand, Orissa, etc. could do this Seva.

    In addition to Bhai Gurdas Vaar 1 - Pauri 32, 33, 34, 35, 36 and 37;
    In his Book: "Sketch of The Sikhs" published in 1812, Lieutenant-Colonial John Malcolm had stated that.."Aftar Nanac had visited all the cities of India, and explained to all ranks the great doctrines of the unity and omnipresence of God, he went to Mecca and Medina, where his actions, his miracles, and his long disputations with the most celebrated Muhammedan saints and doctors, are most circumstantially recorded by his biographers...
    at pages 28-29 of Reprint in June 2007.

    In "History of the Panjab", published in 1889, Syad Muhammand Latif at page 243 wrote:

    "He (Nanak) travelled over the whole of India; visited Persia, Kabul and other parts of Asia, and, it is said, even Mecca. A story is related by both Hindus and Mahomedians in connection with Nanak's visit to Mecca. It is said that, while at Mecca, Nanak was found sleeping with his feet to the Kaaba, before which the Mahomedans prostrate themselves when performing their devotions. The Kazi, Ruku-ud-din, who observed
    this, angrily remarked: "Infidel, how dare you dishonour God's house by turning your feet towards it!" "Turn them, if you can," replied Nanak, "in a direction where the house of God is not."

    In "History of the Sikhs", Vol. 1, Edition 1984 at page 66, Dr. Hari Ram Gupta said:

    "Nanak dressed himself in the manner of a Haji or pilgrim to Mecaa and Medina. He put on blue garments, carried an earthen jug for water, and a small carpet for saying prayers. A thick staff was in his hand. "And when an opportunity offered, he shouted the Muhammadan call to prayer like any orthodox follower of the Arabian prophet." At Mecca, while sleeping his feet moved towards the Ka'ba, the sacred shrine of Islam. The angry Mulla named Jiwan kicked and scolded him for showing disrespect to the house of God. Quietly came the answer:

    "Pray, turn my feet in the direction where all-pervading God is not present."

    In the Sikh History Books, Principal Teja Singh/Dr. Ganda Singh, Khushwant
    Singh and Dr. Gopal Singh have also narrated the said incident.

    Thus, while attending any such Multi-Faith Seminars, Sikh Scholars should not be afraid to call a spade a spade based on Gurbaani and historical events.

    Gurmit Singh (Australia)
    • Like Like x 1
  7. dalvindersingh grewal

    dalvindersingh grewal India
    Expand Collapse
    Writer Historian SPNer Contributor

    Jan 3, 2010
    Likes Received:
    Dear Sir,

    Thanks for asking comments. Please find my view point as follows:

    1. Should missionary work be pursued more energetically by Sikhs? Why doubt? Why delay? Get into it? Do it. Don’t get into discussions.

    2. Who should be the audience to receive the message of Guru Nanak? Guru Nank’s message is each and every person in the world. He spoke to everyone; high or low; good or bad. Why do you differ? Speak to everyone. Convey everyone what he said. His message is for all for all the times.

    3. Should greater efforts toward the conversion of non-Sikhs to Sikhism be pursued? No rituals of conversions. Convert hearts and minds. We have sufficient numbers to expand. First make them clear about Guru’s message. Let them live as Gurmukhs first.

    4. What does the word "proselytizing" mean to Sikhs? Is it different from the meaning in other religions (e.g., Islam or Christianity)? We are not a religion. We are a wave. We have to go to each corner and reach everyone. If we do our job rightfully all others are bound to follow: Who does not wish to follow a Gurmukh and to become one?

    5. Do Sikh missionary colleges have a vital role to play? Sikh Missionary colleges started with a good motto; did well initially but now they too are becoming business centres and ego developing points. Still they can be said to be doing better than most of us. Let us all be missionaries and people will copy you when you are true Gurmiuklhs. The Philosophy of Guru Nanak teaches all to become Gurmukhs; who are nearer God. They follow: sach-ho orai sabhu ko upar sach acha:r.

    Yours Sincerely,

    Dalvinder Singh Grewal
    Col Dr
    • Like Like x 3

Share This Page