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We are all Chamaars!!

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  1. Gyani Jarnail Singh

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    The Hindu/Sikh World is divided into Zaat Paat..based on ones occupation..
    So..a farmer is a jatt..an Ironsmith is lohaar..a leather worker is chamaar.(popularly called Ravidassiahs after the most famous of all chamaars....Bhagat ravidass Ji.) .....a goldsmith is suniaar..shopkeeper is banniah/Arora...etc..etc

    IMHO..since we ALL have a SKIN...we are ALL CHAMAARS !!! anyone care to DISPUTE that ?? After all dotn we spend so much time and effort and MONEY dialy on taking care of OUR SKINS...expensive shampoos, lotions, baths, hair creams, sun bathing...and all this just for a PIECE OF LEATHER that covers US !!

    THIS is PRECISELY WHAT Bhagat ravidass Ji tried to TEACH us through his Bani....and not only Bhagat ravidass Ji..Bhagat Kabir Ji..and all the ten nanaks..and everyone else whose Bani is in SGGS..tried to do the same thing...BUT WE NEVER LEARNT !!
     
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    Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

    Can anyone put it better?:welcome:
     
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    Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

    it's not about the occupation but the ego attached to it......Gyani ji !!
     
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    Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

    Huck finn ji..you could be right...
    earlier only the Brahmins pandits jaats had this "superirity" complex (ego)..
    now everyone has it...no more "inferiority" complexes ...people are "proud" to admit and wear the labels...is this good or what ??
     
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    Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

    err No.

    We all have natural oils in our body so we're TELIS
    We can add, subtract, multiply and do various other arithemetic so we're VAISHYAS(or accountants)
    We all have an immune system which fights diseases so we're WARRIORS
    Our body heals itself many times so we're VAIDH
    We think about the world, god and other things which don't necessarily affect our body functions so we're all Brahmins
    Our bodies get rid of the unused or dirty stuff so we're BHANGIS
    and the list goes on......

    I see what you're trying to do but we're not JUST chamars. We're a mix of everything.
     
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    Thats a great addition ausdesi ji..THANKS. Good stuff for my Gurbani Classes discussions on castes..:}{}{}::}{}{}::}{}{}:
     
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    Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

    hehe could not have put it better.

    Maybe people should read about Chaamar/Churah Sikhs or Mazhabi Sikhs. If they did they would all be proud to be called Chamaar. :happy:
     
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    Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

    At present the entire sikh community could be considered as vaishy's
    For the sake of money we can do anything.We can leave our land,We can embrace other
    religions.We are ready to sell anything for the sake of money.The only thing that is mainly in the mind of majority of sikh community is money ,money money
     
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    Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

    when it is a question of money everyone is of the same religion - voltaire
     
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    May be Voltaire never studied islam.Plenty of muslims ignore their economic benefits and ally with with their muslim brothers.
     
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    Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

    K. Singh, I dont think you understood the quote

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    but not when it matters,
    because a gold coin can turn any sword especially when pertaining to rational majorities. :)

    Voltaire not studied Islam? LOL!!!

    I assume you have not heard of a play called 'Mohomet The Prophet' -by Voltaire? or the word islamisme- coined by Voltaire?

    happy reading
     
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