I wrote in favor of his being intelligence, his art of words. Point out a single sentence where I went personal by attacking his personal life ?( who did, it is their take to weigh a person who comments on Spiritual Master like Guru Nanak, so let them have this liberty, please read the name of the thread)
'Name' of thread is - Was Rajneesh The Right Person to Translate Japji Sahib?
Was Rajneesh The Right Person - That indicates you are judging the person's knowledge or personal characterter.
There is no animosity here. It seems that you have taken opinion bit personally. My opinion is my view point. And I am certainly free to put forward my opinion.
No Sir, I didn’t, some of the posters questioned his being spiritual high enough to comment on Spiritual Master Guru Nanak, you didn’t like it, I just asked you to let them do what they want to do as per the Name of the Thread. Now, instead of understanding that request, you have blamed me to be judging Osho. I wonder what takes you to the defense of Osho so quickly[/FONT]
I want you to post any thing that is lucid and that impressed you on Jap ji by Osho,
I provided that in my earlier post about - Infinite Infinities.
Kindly take some time to post Osho’s lucid interpretation of Guru Nanaks’Japji, not the fabricated stories. You seem well impressed by his interpretation (I am not judging you, just your posts say so) As I already explained how he cooks stories about the last moment of Guru Nanak Ji.” In my first post[/FONT], [/FONT]you do too[/FONT]
you are talking as if you had read all other Japji interpretations; I doubt that;
Again Singh Sahib - This is a discussion forum....you do not even know or have met me. And yet you are able to pass judgment about my knowledge. I have heard/read transalations atleast in double figures- Just FYI. And I wouldn't like to politicize this topic.
I am, sorry if you feel that way, I talked about other interpretations only because you were defining Osho’s interpretation very lucid( if others were not!), I wonder how could I miss it and couldn’t find it as lucid as you state. To clear doubts about our statements, we must look at the same interpretation together to see if his interpretation is really lucid or not! I took your words as a fact, isn’t it a kind of accepting your expertise, if you don’t see, I wonder but I did, why still you are saying you do not want to politicize it. It is simply a matter of proving what is the fact about what we claim on this forum[/FONT]
I clearly stated that it 'seems' that you did not like the translation. But I did.
You and I have two different minds and the differences are bound to happen. But don't underestimate anybody's knowledge or view point.
I didn’t underestimate any ones understanding or knowledge, that will be my wrong judgment about any one (I believe people know more than me but I like to question though if I feel it should be made clear and, I hope it is not considered wrong) I simply asked you to bring it up, lets see, what is wrong with that or why it is so lucid?[/FONT]
however, if you say so, I take your word but it also proves, under his impression, you have forgot that due to compact form of Japji, Osho explanation falls short.
I am not sure what you meant by 'compact form of Japji'. And how his explanation falls short. Guru Nanak's bani as said - 'Baani dhooroh chal keh aayi'. So whether form it is in 'compact or expanded' is again an opinion.
That is very strange, you do not understand that Japji’ form is very compact, very hard to decipher easily, after interpreting, one feels, some thing is left out, this fact [/FONT] has been shared by many scholars like Principle Teja Singh ji, Gurbachan Singh Talib and others. How Osho fall short, just bring one of your favorite Japji Pouris interpreted by Osho, I shall show you. Dhur ki Bani is also in compact form, it must be interpreted by seers for common people like us.[/FONT]
So please, to prove your impression, post his any interpretation, I shall see how much lucidity is there, keeping in mind Guru Nanak ideology in totality
Again I have put forth my view point. And it seems you have done that too.
I am not sure what good will it do by posting a couplet of his translation and you passing out a judgment.
According to you it is not lucid whereas I think it is. Lets end it there!!
. Osho commented on Guru Nanak, we need to judge if he did his work honestly or just played a game of words to lure people. What is wrong [/FONT]with that? The thread requires judgment on him, why to avoid the truth. If it were between you and me, why we would be discussing on forum?[/FONT]
There are many Osho lovers out there who advocate his lower mentality comments about Lord Christ too, so I am aware of that too. I do not need to take his personality to discuss here. If they claim his interpretation is lucid, I have to resist it on the basis of Guru Nanak ideology.
What is Guru Nanak's ideology? You refer it quite often and seem to understand it well. Please share your thoughts.
Thanks