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UK UK Police Seek Assistance: Terrifying moments - Sikh Protesters Storm Community Centre, Trash It

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    Terrifying moments - U.K. Sikh protesters stormed their own community centre and trashed it

    The terrifying moment hundreds of Sikh protesters smashed their way into a community centre in protest at it selling meat and alcohol

    - Images show rioters smashing through police cordon
    - Missiles thrown at officers in five-hour stand-off

    By Daily Mail Reporter
    Last updated at 7:01 PM on 12th October 2011



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    Re: Terrifying moments - U.K. Sikh protesters stormed their own community centre and trashed it

    They should make the people behind 'Satkaar' pay for the damage,how can they call themselves respect,they should change name to Kutmaar. My family first came to the town in 1967 from Punjab and my grandfather was one of the earliest members of the Sangat.(Also no one was selling anything ,most people bring their own stuff and just rent the hall,and also if they had saw it as their own hall ,they would not have trashed it.(The irony is there are one or two Off Licence's situated adjacent to the hall and they sell alcohol seven days a week ,while the hall gets a just few bookings in the summer )
     
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    Re: Terrifying moments - U.K. Sikh protesters stormed their own community centre and trashed it

    Sinner veer (or Dear Scarlet mundahug), is it a Langar Hall linked to a permanent Gurdwara? I see the point if that is the case but still should be within law and order.

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    Re: Terrifying moments - U.K. Sikh protesters stormed their own community centre and trashed it

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    Veer Ji ,No the Gurdwara does have it's own separate Langar Hall located within itself and on it's ground floor , This Hall is like a community centre that is located over the road .(the entrance of the Hall is approx 100 metres away of from the Gurdwara entrance .)
    The Gurdwara bought the land to make a Hall and the local authority funded the building of it.The land purchase came from the Golak but was accounted for as a loan on the books of the Gurdwara I think it might have been paid off by now,the accounts are freely available from the Charities Commision.
    It is linked in that the same committee members are responsible,I have no direct conflict of interest, but I should declare that my Grandfathers nephew who is one of the towns most successful businessmen and a self made millionaire, is the Gurdwara treasurer.

    ps I like Scarlet-Pimper-Neer or SPN for short ,Looks like they are still at it too another Gurdwara getting bullied now!

    PANTHIC.ORG | Published on September 20, 2011
    MANMAT PLANNED FOR SINGH SABHA SLOUGH GURDWARA COMMUNITY CENTER

    SLOUGH, UK - Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Slough, UK is the largest Gurudwara in Slough and consequently has the largest regular Sangat attending. However it is very sad to see that unlike the Gurdwara’s namesake, the Singh Sabha reform movement led by heroic members of the Sangat who cleansed India’s Gurdwarae of various ills and diseases, the serving committee seems to be the fighting a very different battle, whilst the general Sangat seem completely oblivious.
    We have reason to believe that a ‘Sports and Cultural Centre’ currently being built by the committee will host parties and other such events where meat will be served, alcohol will be served, cigarettes will be smoked and lustful dancing will be promoted. No doubt there may also be events allowed which promote idol-worship; similar to the events that previously took place at the other Gurdwara in Slough; Ramgharia Gurdwara. The crucial question is this: Why build another expensive hall via the Sangat’s money when another one exists, also built with Sangat’s money, currently exists and moreover has facilities which are barely being used at the moment?

    Needless to say the project which is scheduled to cost £3,000,000 is being funded via the Guru’s Golak. Apparently £1,500,000 has already been paid by the committee with the remaining £1,500,000 to be paid over the next 10-15 years; effectively leaving the Gurdwara in serious and expensive long-term debt. Fund-raising has already begun with Sangat being constantly implored to donate more and more money.
    Recent discussions that have taken place amongst the committee are very worrying. These include arguments about whether Panj Piyarae should have laid the foundation stone – those who didn’t want this felt this may prohibit Manmat parties and events from taking place. Others didn’t seem perturbed by this and were of the view that despite the Panj Piayare having been involved this wouldn’t stop them from deciding to hold such events. To keep Sangat from attacking such plans some committee members are spreading false rumours that perhaps in future a new Gurdwara will be built upon the site. Whereas at one meeting it was passed that all parties would have to conform with Sikh Rehat Maryada i.e. no alcohol, meat etc. can be served, at another meeting that took place thereafter it was decided that the Sangat would be allowed to decide whether meat and alcohol should be prohibited or not. Allegedly, some committee members are stating that a separate committee should be formed to run the new centre which would effectively allow the Gurdwara committee to distance themselves from the things that take place there and in turn any implications which arise.The Gurdwara Sahib, which is supposed to inspire, enlighten and lead the Sangat may soon be at the mercy of the Sangat as to what should be promoted, taught and followed. Furthermore the Gurdwara is proactively leading the Sangat down a dangerous path where the current and future generations will be implicitly taught that all these activities are compatible with Gurmat.

    Such committees spend Guru Sahib’s money with no care – as it does not come from their own pockets and neither do they have any love-inspired fear or respect for Guru Sahib. They are more interested in having a ‘good time’ than carrying-out any useful activities that would develop, empower and lead our youth towards Guru Sahib. They care not for the fact that they are leading us, our children and all future generations towards a spiritual and physical death. The Gurdwara which represents ‘the gateway to the Guru’ will soon perhaps need to be renamed as it is in danger of becoming ‘the exit door from the Guru’.
    The UK Satkaar Group has done some excellent work achieving positive results regarding other UK-based Gurdwarae that have committed similar actions, and are aware of the centre being built by the current committee in Slough. They are waiting to see what steps the Slough Sangat take once the centre opens, and hope it will promote activities and initiatives which benefit the local Sikh community. Time will tell but at the moment the future does not look too hopeful.
    The committee will be holding the Annual General Meeting this weekend on Sunday 25th September and it is hoped that the local Sangat attends and stands united against what may soon take place. The committee should be questioned and probed as to what will take place once the centre opens, and should also be made to acknowledge their responsibilities in line with Gurmat. The local Sangat has a chance to rise-up like their ancestors, the heroic Gursikhs of yester-year, and finally start to once again take control of the Gurdwarae which are in danger of becoming diseased. If nothing is done, and no voices speak, we as the Sangat will ultimately be accountable.

    For ultimately it is we the Sangat who vote for such people, we the Sangat who agree with such decisions and it also we the Sangat who silently stand aside whilst these things take place.
    (By a Gupt Sangat Member)
     
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    Re: Terrifying moments - U.K. Sikh protesters stormed their own community centre and trashed it

    This is not new Scarlet P ji. The bullying has been organized on the Internet for months by various sites, and is actively pursued in both Canada and UK. I have been astonished for months that no legal interventions have occurred. Not only that....but celebrations and back patting follow up successful sortis. Jubilation over what boils down to felonious activity. The use of the Internet to manage and organize illegal activity has to be against the law in the UK and Canada. We have several threads in which this problem has been covered. In my mind the police are missing a link if they are not already signed onto Sikh forums and web sites and blogs trying to connect the dots.

    Recently a Ramgharia sangat was targeted. This goes on and on.
     
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    Re: Terrifying moments - U.K. Sikh protesters stormed their own community centre and trashed it

    I have posted the entire article which is connected to the link in the Thread Starter. I have also posted a larger image from the security tapes that police asked be published in the newspaper, Daily Express. This may get some of the UK membership taking a second look.

     

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    I'm shocked because I was not aware of internet forums before end of May this year ,I ran a small business which meant working 11 hour days then falling asleep mostly as it was heavy work,I chanced across an article on a website after following it I found a press release in the Armed Nawjwaan Forum,I was discredited for being related to a committee member. Thankyou for the help to publicise the issue.The Scarlet Pimp-erneer
     
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