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  1. aristotle

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    A Tunisian minister has revealed local women are travelling to Syria to undertake 'sex jihad' by giving battlefield comfort to Islamist fighters battling the regime.

    Tunisian women have travelled to Syria to wage "sex jihad" by comforting Islamist fighters battling the regime there, Interior Minister Lotfi ben Jeddou has told MPs.

    "They have sexual relations with 20, 30, 100" militants, the minister told members of the National Constituent Assembly on Thursday.

    "After the sexual liaisons they have there in the name of 'jihad al-nikah' - (sexual holy war, in Arabic) - they come home pregnant," Ben Jeddou told the MPs.

    He did not elaborate on how many Tunisian women had returned to the country pregnant with the children of jihadist fighters.

    Jihad al-nikah, permitting extramarital sexual relations with multiple partners, is considered by some hardline Sunni Muslim Salafists as a legitimate form of holy war.

    The minister also did not say how many Tunisian women were thought to have gone to Syria for such a purpose, although media reports have said hundreds have done so.

    Hundreds of Tunisian men have also gone to join the ranks of the jihadists fighting to bring down the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

    However, Ben Jeddou also said that since he assumed office in March, "six thousand of our young people have been prevented from going there" to Syria.

    He has said in the past that border controls have been boosted to intercept young Tunisians seeking to travel to Syria.

    Media reports say thousands of Tunisians have, over the past 15 years, joined jihadists across the world in Afghanistan Iraq and Syria, mainly travelling via Turkey or Libya.

    Abu Iyadh, who leads the country's main Salafist movement Ansar al-Sharia, is the suspected organiser of a deadly attack last year on the US embassy in Tunis and an Afghanistan veteran.

    He was joint leader of a group responsible for the September 9, 2001 assassination in Afghanistan of anti-Taliban Northern Alliance leader Ahmad Shah Massoud by suicide bombers.

    That attack came just two days before the deadly Al-Qaeda attacks on the World Trade Centre in New York and Pentagon in Washington.

    (Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ex-Jihad-raging-in-Syria-claims-minister.html)
     
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    This may be one reason why SIKHS in WAR were told very strictly to stay away from Mughal Women...many rehatnamahs forbid any relations with mughal women under any circumstances...and this allowed SIKHS to maintain high moral ground. One of the ORIGINAL four kurehits was sex with a Mughal Woman - which was later altered to sex with other than the spouse.
     
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    True Gyaniji, some Rehatnamas carry clauses of prohibition of cohabition with Turk/Mughal women.

    But I doubt if it was one of the four kurhits as against prohibition of cohabiting with ALL women other than one's spouse. Such mentions do occur in Rehatnamas but with a lot of other do's and dont's. Moreover most of the Rehatnamas were the handiwork of local Mahants and Jathedars.

    The four kurehits were never standardised in the Rehatnamas, even if they were, carry no meaning after enactment of the Sikh Rehat Maryada.
     
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    No doubt Sikhi is Niayara.
     
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    What is "Niayara"?

    Thanks
     
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    'Nyara' literally translates as 'unique'

    Throughout the Sikh literature and poetry, the phrase 'Nyara Khalsa' is used numerous times, due to the unique practices and ideology of the Khalsa.
     
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    Niayara means the one who stands out with his/her deeds in a positive manner. Before 1984, it was a common practice in India that the Hindu and Muslim families used to urge their daughters to find a Sikh taxi driver when travelling on their own. They knew that a Niayara Sikh would keep them safe.
     
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    I read the same news on Huff Post. it is a shame and rather insulting to notice that these same Imams who issue fatwas to women to enter in 'sex jihad', also issue fatwas to kill/punish the raped victims with lashes. Men are scot free in the Muslim society.

    They also abduct, rape women at will no matter what their social status is.
    http://news.yahoo.com/lawmaker-taliban-abduction-left-her-even-braver-103509340.html

    It is oxymoronic to say the least one has to wear the burka for modesty and then sent to satisfy men in the battle fields. The Imams do not care when these poor women come home pregnant not knowing who the fathers are to raise baastards. Because the macho Imams commanded so.

    What about the kids who are yet to be born? Who are going to look after them?

    Which men are going to marry these women?

    Through this fatwa, they have been made the outcasts of the same society who forced them to become prostitutes. I would like to know if anyone of them married before leaving for this sex Jihad and how they were treated by their respective spouses after they returned, pregnant or not.

    It is no different than the Japanese royals who made their people to abduct Korean young girls to please their soldiers when they were cruising around to conquer the world. And we all know how they live miserable lives in Japan now a days

    This kind of macho society derived by the religious thought process is quite damaging. Most Muslim countries are lucky to have oil reserves which are a temporary thing but it has made many people spoiled brats without caring for others. Hence, there are tribal infightings between the haves and the have-nots.

    The latest case is of one of the thousands of Saudi Princesses who was arrested for human trafficking in Los Angeles was freed and could not be charged. Money talks and BS walks away literally, as the old saying goes. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/20/saudi-princess-human-traf_n_3964422.html?ir=Los+Angeles

    They have gotten away with murder after 9-11 too when W.Bush allowed Bin Laden’s relatives leave the country on chartered planes in the dark of the night while the innocent Sikhs were being murdered, pulled out of trains and beaten mercilessly.

    Coming back to Jihad al-nikah, one can see how women are used as doormats and even worse when it pleases the honchos of Islam.

    It is sad indeed.

    Tejwant Singh
     
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    Niyara could also mean spotless in some context, right?
     
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    Did anyone ever have the experience of reading something, understanding the words, understanding what the sentences are saying -- yet it is not sinking in? That would normally be my reaction if I were trying to understand advanced organic chemistry: not a chance in hell it would compute. Well, that is what this article has done to my mind. I have read it maybe now 5 times, and it has taken me more than 24 hours to comprehend to the extent that I can now reply on the thread.

    This concept, these acts, the willingness of the women to forsake any sense of personal boundaries, the sureness of the imams of God's intentions, the destinies of children born from such unions? Even now that I can actually 'think' about this, how can I know if policy makers in the West comprehend what follows from this as political, economic and cultural futures in a new Islamic world? That I can understand or not means nothing. What is crucial? Do our governments understand what is going on here, and what will they do with that understanding? Or, will they tout delusional theories as rational and culturally sensitive policies?
     
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    Take it granted that all the children born out from these ladies will be hardcore terrorist and nothing else.
     
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    maybe the final irony is that they may not, why even in the perfect environment of having a Guru for a father, there is no guarantee of outcome
     
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    Kanwaljit Singh ji thanks for your post. I find the following resource almost incredible and worth publicizing and possibly contributing to its growth and enhancement,

    http://www.ijunoon.com/punjabi/punjabi.aspx?word=niara

    For example when I looked for Nyara/Niara the following was given. Wow! I am impressed, :wahmunda::wahkaur: or "wah whoever" :mundahug:

    <table width="494"><tbody><tr><td>Meaning of word niara

    </td></tr><tr></tr></tbody></table><table style="color:#616161;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;" width="494"><tbody><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28">Punjabi</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">a. addo add ; wakkhra ; alag ; niara ; wakkho-wakkh ; anjo anj ;</td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28" width="100">English</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">separate</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" colspan="2" height="10">
    </td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28">Punjabi</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">n. suniara. M;</td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28" width="100">English</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">silversmith</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" colspan="2" height="10">
    </td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28">Punjabi</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">n. suniara. M;</td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28" width="100">English</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">jeweller</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" colspan="2" height="10">
    </td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28">Punjabi</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">n. suniara. M; sunjar. M; wife of goldsmith. Suniaran. F;</td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28" width="100">English</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">goldsmith</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" colspan="2" height="10">
    </td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28">Punjabi</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">a. 1. Different. Hor ; 2. Separate. Wakkh ; niara ; wakkhra ; add ; alag juda ; wakkhho wakh ; 3. Clear. Nirmal ;</td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28" width="100">English</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">distinct</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" colspan="2" height="10">
    </td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28">Punjabi</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">a. wakkhara ; hor; alag ; wakkho wakkh ; niara ;</td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28" width="100">English</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">different</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" colspan="2" height="10">
    </td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28">Punjabi</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">a. wakkhra ; hor ; alag ; wakkho wakkh ; niara ; 1. Different kinds. Bhant bhant de ; 2. Different places. Thain thain. F;</td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28" width="100">English</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">different</td></tr><tr><td style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" colspan="2" height="10">
    </td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28">Punjabi</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">adv. Vakkhra; alag ; add; niara; ikk passe ; ikk wall ; pasitta; vakkh vakkh ; nirale vichch; togo apart. Ikalwange jana; sown far apart thinly. Wirle,</td></tr><tr><td padma_font_family_property="Arial" style="border-bottom:solid 1px #e6e6e6;" class="names" height="28" width="100">English</td><td padma_font_family_property="Arial">apart</td></tr></tbody></table>
     
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    japjisahib04 ji so well said.

    Indeed these will end up being impoverished one parent boys and girls born out of wedlock and a laughing stock of all around them. They will unfortunately not be able to answer the question, "Who is your daddy?" The same question has generated large ghettos and desperate children open for exploitation in poor neighborhoods throughout America. In America, many of these gravitate towards drugs and other crimes. In places like Tunisia and others these indeed will get picked up for brainwashing and continued supply of children soldiers and baby suicide bombers. If they do survive to adulthood they will become like there mothers or as told about their father(s).

    What a stupid concept and it is in a way what many warring rulers and armies have also done in the past. The Japanese using Chinese women/girls, the Mughal invaders taking away girls from invasions of India, and so forth.

    Ironically some interpretations of Islamic thought that I have read espouse the idea of "temporary partners" for people fighting for Islam or in the name of Islam. Invariably these end up being females exploited by male miliatias/armies/jihadists. You don't need a specific fatwa to justify it. Read works of Anwar al-Awlaki who basically created a manifesto for Jihadists and is much followed by young people who rightfully or wrongfully pursue the cause of Jihad in Islam.

    As one can point out, Islam as practiced by many if not the majority so associated, is a religion ideal for macho men with harem after death and free supply of docile/subjugated women during life times. It is the fastest growing religion in the world so may be that is the natural order or the right way and most others are in the wrong! I don't know, but I just observe without bias or malice.

    Regards to all.

    PS: Folks sometimes we treat what we read as reports on media and internet to be true. It is a dangerous assumption. However my conjecture and statements above are based on such a report being true other than comments about "temporary wives" in theaters of war. The following is some repudiation of this particular item but I don't profess to understand the language in reporting,

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    JAB TAK kHALSA rAHEH niyara..TAB TAAK TEJ DIOON MEIN SARAH...JAB EH GAHEH biprran ke reet..mein na karoon in kee parteet..

    In SGGS it si written that the HINDU is BLIND and Turk is ONE EYED...the Hindu is BLIND becasue he ahs NO FAITH whatsoever in hsi devtas isht etc..he is willing to write, and read myths about his GODS..even shameless acts attributed to Gods dont matter..and also becasue he worships Mandirs and idols instead of God...the Muslim is ONE EYED..becasue his saving grace is his 110% FAITH and TRUST in Prop Muhammaed as the chosen one and alst and he reaffirsm this daily in the Klama..he lost the other eye becasue he also locks up God in the mosque/kaaba/mecca...
    BUT what about the Gyani..the SIKH..which Gurbani calls dohan te siyannah..better than BOTH Hindu and Muslim..well TODAYS SIKH is even BLINDER than the HINDU..he has no faith in hsi GURU..he matha teks everywhere and anywhere..on graves, on muslim graves, in mandirs, to idols, whatever..He has locked up god in the Gurdwara and "Sach Khand"... and He is willing to say that his GURU wrote FILTH such as Charitropakhyan !!

    So there is no more gyani..no more khalsa no more niyara..only in MINISCULE quantity...
    Lots and lots of AANEH and double Blind sikhs..wearing cholas and gatras..
     
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    Ambarsariah ji..thats is a PERFECT TERRORIST ARMY in the making..for endless war on the infidels...
     
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    I think there is hope, maybe one of them would escape the harsh reality and develop cure for cancer!

    Yes the whole premise is very bad. I think they don't have any moral fiber stopping them. Everyone has their own morality. What is good for you could be bad for someone. No one knows what is good for all?
     
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