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The Ritual Consumption of Food and Sikhism

Discussion in 'Interfaith Dialogues' started by Gyani Jarnail Singh, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. Gyani Jarnail Singh

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    Yes Jios..the Hallal method is prohibited due to its..
    1. Religious/ritaulised/and SACRIFICIAL Connotation.
    2. Halla was ( still IS ) one way the Ruling/Majority MUSLIMS enforced their dieting and syariah Laws upon all subjugated/ruled peoples. Since a SIKH only bows to AKAL PURAKH...such subjugation is unacceptable. Just look how insidiously the Muslim Nations like Saudi Arabaia Malasyia etc have used their Financial clout to ensure ONLY HALLAL is served by Multinational Food franchises like McDonalds, KFC etc and even in the UK all schools public supermarkets like tesco etc all sell only "Hallal" (sometimes not openly), IN MALAYSIA it is MANDATORY FOR ALL Aussie/NZ lamb etc to be Hallal ONLY...and Australia even SHIPS all its LIVE CATTLE and SHEEP to Malaysia Indonesia so they cna be hallal by Malaysian Muslims. Malaysian Muslims are employed at Aussie Abbatoirs to ensure halal. UK is NOT a Majority Muslim nation..Malaysia is substantially Non-Muslim..!!!
    3. RITUAL SLAUGHTER as SACRIFICE is also practised by HINDU MANDIRS..commonly dedicated to DURGA..and these HINDUS use JHATKA METHOD to decapitate the Goat...but isnce this is SACRIFICED for DURGA..its PROHIBITED to SIKHS inspite of it being "Jhatka"..

    Golden RULE.....all jhatka is NOT "jhatka"...all "halllal" may also not be Hallal !! LOGISTICS makes this IMPOSSIBLE...

    Anyway animals killed by Shooting, arrows etc are acceptable as Jhatka as are fish caught ....Golden Rule"AVOID SACRIFICED MEAT."
     
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  3. Gyani Jarnail Singh

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    Re: Query about Jhatka Meat by Shooting in Head

    What about other ritual food? Catholic wafer, pagan feast foods? They may not be meat but they have specific ritual meaning??????????????????

    ALSO OUT...ishna ji....a SIKH cannot accept a food SACRIFICED/Ritually offered to a god...devta as holy food...

    BTW..Karrah parshadd is NOT "sacrifieced/ritually offered" to any god as holy food..and is NOT HOLY...its Food and so is Guru ka Langgar...just FOOD.
     
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    Re: Query about Jhatka Meat by Shooting in Head

    Then why is Karha Parshad distributed at all and what is significance of Parshad with respect to Sikhism?
     
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    The Sikh Gurus were PRACTICAL PEOPLE...BHOOKHEH BHAGAT NA KEECHEY...a hungry man cannot concnetrate of Spiritual subjects...

    Thats why there is SHABAD DA LANGGAR...spirituality..and there is GURU KA LANGGAR..food for the stomach...

    Karrah Parshaad is simple food easily prepared by just about anyone..every house has ATTA, SUGAR, GHEE and WATER. Even the poorest of the poor could have all these in his house. For "short" session of Shabad Langgar acompaniement...this Karrah parshaad is PERFECT....so that after having tasted the AMRIT SWEETNESS fo SHABAD...in the MIND...the tongue and stomach also get their "food".

    2. SPIRITUAL Connotation....EQUALITY. IN mkaing Karrah prshaad its MANDATORY that EQUAL PARTS of atta/ghee/sugar/water be USED. Another ingrdient specifiacally REQUIRED is Naam - usually JAJI SAHIB is recited while rpepapring it and no outside talk/gossip permitted. The japji also serves very well as an automatic TIMER...becasue the ATTA must be perfectly roasted in GHEE..before the Sugar/water mixture is applied...too late..and the Parshjaad becoems over cooked/dark and reelases GHEE whcih DRIPS out...and too soon..and the karrah is PALE...STICKY like GLUE..and difficult to distribute/eat...(Atta being undercooked) Japji sahib read at normal speed is perfect timing !! In my personal experience ....150 years of making this havent got it wrong even once..always PERFECT.

    3. EQUALITY in INGREDIENTS..is followed by EQUALITY in DISTRIBUTION..every one gets a portion...no discrimination among poor/rich/man/woman/low/high caste /religious differences etc etc.. ALL Have to be SEATED and served in PANGAT in the DARBAR SAHIB....(although not mandatory as conveneince can be allowed for). Karrah parshad is NEVER served in Guru Ka Langgar........../its place is DARBAR of GURU. One has to ATTEND the DARBAR to get it.

    4. UP to the 1920s when the Singh Sabha took control of darbar sahib Amrtisar and otehr Gurdwaras...the Karrah parshaad was prepared by HALWAII SHOPS...BOUGHT by weight by sangats and presented to darbar as offering and distributed. When the SGPC came into being and a large sum of money was needed for the BUILDING of Langgar and REST ROOMS fot eh sangat..it was proposed by a Sikh Employee of SGPC that it be suggested to the Halwaii shops that they contribute 10% of theri parshaad/restroom rental income to the SGPC for that purpose. The Buisnessminded halwaiis flatly REFUSED. Hence the SGPC took the decision to begin Preparing karrah parshaad IN THE GURDWARA SAHIB and BANNED all OUTSIDE karrah parshaads. The Halwaiis rasied a huge hue and cry..but it was too late...their days were over...soon the SGPC had eneough money to build the first Hostel in the darbar sahib Complex for visitors benefit. Then ALL GURDWARAS everywhere began to make ther own Karrah parshaad...

    5. NANAKSAREE THAATHS (not Gurdwaras) DONT have Karrah Parshaad...or Nishan sahib and dont call their places GURDWARAS and thus have no GURU ka Langgar as well. These Babas began the habit of giving out SUKKA Parshaad..DRY Parshaad..rioorriahn (sweets bought form halwaiis)..sugar patahsans etc etc. THIS has the advantage that it can be RE-USED, RE-CYCLED, RE-SOLD...and STORED and requires no manpower to Cook etc. Very COMMERCIAL OPERATION.

    6. Ceretian Sikhs under Hindu influence also bring along different "parshaads" bananas,,apples fruits, coconuts, sweets, etc etc for distribution at Gurdwara Functions. Some follow Hindu practises such as Cholleh parshaad on Saturdays becasue the Shanni Devta loves this..etc etc..ALL these are NOT as per SRM.
     
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    Ritual Sacrifice is basically a sacrifice to God or a purification.

    Ardas or a Prayer over food is like saying Grace basically saying, thanks for this food.

    One is saying we are sacrificing this to you or purifying what you have created, the other is saying just a simple thanks.
     
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    At Sikh camp, the after all the katha was said and after sukhasan we got given a small handful of dried fruit/nuts instead of karah prashad. That might have been because sugar at the time of night for the little ones might have been a bit much for the parents!!
     

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