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Over the last few years as I started to dwell more into Sikhism, and religion in general, I began to notice revisionist history and trends that transcend all cultures and religion.
My main issues are summarized in this paragraph :
Theistic belief has been the controlling social structure/order for the generations before Governmental Law/Democracy came into place. By a theistic religion, we are not held responsible for our actions, and we attribute unknown knowledge to that of God. There are always more well-defined suitable goals which exist not in this life, but the next. Theistic religions always try to disconnect the member from society, and make them revitalize internally and focus on a Godly connection, rather than an external connection to man and materialism. How in the modern world does this structure still live? A new system is needed in order to progress humanity (Rich) to humanity in other parts of the unfortunate world (poor) that hold different characteristics (race, religion, etc...).
The mainstream followers of any religion provide the fuel for the fundamental organizations that still exist today. When religion became organized, it is utilized like any other institution to keep the wealthy wealthy, and to keep the select few in power. If Granthis wouldnt get paid, free trips to America, and free housing, would they really be granthis? Seems like Gurdwaras and the Gurdwaras committee boards are always in the need for "donations" ? Seems like God can handle a lot of things, except money. Donate 1/2 of your first pay check to Gurdwara, $1 per day, per visit, "Matha Tahk".
Fundamentalist organizations that strive off division to create their own niche in which they will attain survivability and power. Everything is divide and conquer. Sikhism is based on teaching you about this identity and the sacredness of it. Humans, in general, need to see beyond identity, these are all created by forces in power to keep us mindless and commercialized. See beyond that of race, religion, wealth, class.
Religion supports blind submission to authority. "God" controls it, "Karma." "The Watcher". "God is everywhere, be a good person." In the main paragraph listed above, it implies that theistic religious belief systems are the ground roots to much of the trouble today. Theistic belief systems rely on not questioning God, because the authority is greater than the individual person, and is not comprehend-able by the human brain (even though science has now specified why humans have the desire to believe, or did have the desire). I feel this logic which is similar to many religions around the world left humanity in the state we are in today. Submissive zombies to the people in power (television, government, police force). The average person refuses to read the mandate given by the people in power (government) to realize his rights (when committing a felony, or getting pulled over by the cops) and will simply submit to any form of punishment.
Religious myth was always used to control societies. The person watching over your every move? Organizing an unorganized mob by telling them to keep "5 K's" because everyone was from a different background, and needed to learn how to work together? Karma? All are methods of keeping social order at the respective time.
Let go of the past, a new age is coming.
Religion is a thing of the past. Punjabi people need to progress.
P.S. - The paragraphs above may not make sense, and may not be coherently connected to each other. Just random thoughts I'd mumble about.
The first defense always given is "Your stating problems that are with Sikhs, and not with Sikhi". In this sense, you are always right, Sikhi is perfect and the Sikhs aren't, because of human nature. Why hold onto an ideology which throughout the years has failed miserably, time and time again?
When the Gurus first arrived, they brought about change that initiated intelligence and sped up development. They did not try to reform and adapt previously tried methods. They took what worked best for the people before them, and added in new structures which went against conventional belief, and mixed them out to form a progressive movement. Religion in today's time, claims that the peak of intelligence is that of a man who lived hundreds (thousands) of years ago. That any form of social interaction or disruption is "maya" and "kaljug" to confuse the individual into thinking those times were perfect, and now things are bad. This is all a form to disconnect the individual from his society. To get him to focus elsewhere rather than on Earth, on this society, on this world, in this life-time.
Truth be told, if the Siri Guru Granth Sahib was written today, or just a random book in the library, no one would follow it with their life "on the double-edged sword" anymore than someone would follow "The Tipping Point" or "Blink" for moral guidance and objectivity. The Bible would be no different than any other science fiction books based around morality and ensuring a safe society.
Question #2 - If God exists, prove it.
My main issues are summarized in this paragraph :
Theistic belief has been the controlling social structure/order for the generations before Governmental Law/Democracy came into place. By a theistic religion, we are not held responsible for our actions, and we attribute unknown knowledge to that of God. There are always more well-defined suitable goals which exist not in this life, but the next. Theistic religions always try to disconnect the member from society, and make them revitalize internally and focus on a Godly connection, rather than an external connection to man and materialism. How in the modern world does this structure still live? A new system is needed in order to progress humanity (Rich) to humanity in other parts of the unfortunate world (poor) that hold different characteristics (race, religion, etc...).
The mainstream followers of any religion provide the fuel for the fundamental organizations that still exist today. When religion became organized, it is utilized like any other institution to keep the wealthy wealthy, and to keep the select few in power. If Granthis wouldnt get paid, free trips to America, and free housing, would they really be granthis? Seems like Gurdwaras and the Gurdwaras committee boards are always in the need for "donations" ? Seems like God can handle a lot of things, except money. Donate 1/2 of your first pay check to Gurdwara, $1 per day, per visit, "Matha Tahk".
Fundamentalist organizations that strive off division to create their own niche in which they will attain survivability and power. Everything is divide and conquer. Sikhism is based on teaching you about this identity and the sacredness of it. Humans, in general, need to see beyond identity, these are all created by forces in power to keep us mindless and commercialized. See beyond that of race, religion, wealth, class.
Religion supports blind submission to authority. "God" controls it, "Karma." "The Watcher". "God is everywhere, be a good person." In the main paragraph listed above, it implies that theistic religious belief systems are the ground roots to much of the trouble today. Theistic belief systems rely on not questioning God, because the authority is greater than the individual person, and is not comprehend-able by the human brain (even though science has now specified why humans have the desire to believe, or did have the desire). I feel this logic which is similar to many religions around the world left humanity in the state we are in today. Submissive zombies to the people in power (television, government, police force). The average person refuses to read the mandate given by the people in power (government) to realize his rights (when committing a felony, or getting pulled over by the cops) and will simply submit to any form of punishment.
Religious myth was always used to control societies. The person watching over your every move? Organizing an unorganized mob by telling them to keep "5 K's" because everyone was from a different background, and needed to learn how to work together? Karma? All are methods of keeping social order at the respective time.
Let go of the past, a new age is coming.
Religion is a thing of the past. Punjabi people need to progress.
P.S. - The paragraphs above may not make sense, and may not be coherently connected to each other. Just random thoughts I'd mumble about.
The first defense always given is "Your stating problems that are with Sikhs, and not with Sikhi". In this sense, you are always right, Sikhi is perfect and the Sikhs aren't, because of human nature. Why hold onto an ideology which throughout the years has failed miserably, time and time again?
When the Gurus first arrived, they brought about change that initiated intelligence and sped up development. They did not try to reform and adapt previously tried methods. They took what worked best for the people before them, and added in new structures which went against conventional belief, and mixed them out to form a progressive movement. Religion in today's time, claims that the peak of intelligence is that of a man who lived hundreds (thousands) of years ago. That any form of social interaction or disruption is "maya" and "kaljug" to confuse the individual into thinking those times were perfect, and now things are bad. This is all a form to disconnect the individual from his society. To get him to focus elsewhere rather than on Earth, on this society, on this world, in this life-time.
Truth be told, if the Siri Guru Granth Sahib was written today, or just a random book in the library, no one would follow it with their life "on the double-edged sword" anymore than someone would follow "The Tipping Point" or "Blink" for moral guidance and objectivity. The Bible would be no different than any other science fiction books based around morality and ensuring a safe society.
Question #2 - If God exists, prove it.
) can you please post some sorce for this allegation, or did you just make it up because it happens to fit into your personal world view?
