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Software to ensure proper respect of Guru Granth Sahib birs

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  1. aristotle

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    A team of 11 Australia-based Sikhs has developed a software to ensure respect and care of the sacred Birs of Sri Guru Granth Sahib as per Sikh tenets. This past Thursday the software was demonstrated before Giani Gurbachan Singh, Jathedar of Sri Aal Takht sahib and office bearers of the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee including its president Avtar Makkar and Secretary Dalmegh Singh.

    The project is a technique of devising a computerized data base on the basis of a code generator as per the design of the holy Bir. Around 25,000 NRI Sikhs have signed and submitted a petition last year with the SGPC in support of the project.

    While talking to Sikh24.com Lakhwinder Singh, member of Australian Sikh team, said, ”keeping in mind the happenings of disrespect of ‘Shabad Guru’ at various places, we have developed this software after big efforts which will help in keeping a record of all the ‘Birs’ that the SGPC distributes to individuals and Gurdwara committees.

    “The software will keep tabs on whereabouts of Guru Granth Sahib ‘Birs’, added Singh. The team also contains engineers who help the entire project match with latest computer technology.


    An another view of press conference.
    At present no such record is being maintained by the SGPC. It hands over “Birs” of Guru Granth Sahib to an individual or to a group of representatives of some Gurdwara committees after obtaining an assurance that proper care (Sewa Sambhal) of the Birs will be taken as per the Sikh tenets. But, so far the highest religious body of the Sikhs does not have a mechanism to keep tabs on whether the ‘Sewa Sambhal’ is being done as per the tenets. It only acts when people lodge complaints in this regard or someone is intentionally disrespectful of Guru Granth Sahib.

    The SGPC which is the sole printing authority recognized by Sri Akal Takht Sahib has to be informed if the Bir is moved from one Gurdwara to another or from one house to another.

    Demonstrating the mechanism, Software engineer Sukhbir Singh said, “Each copy of Guru Granth Sahib has been given a unique identity number which is fed into the computer when a Bir is handed over to an individual or a group whose details are then fed into the computer. SGPC can click the ID number and ask for information on e-mail from the person in whose possession the Bir is. Similar procedure can be followed in the case of Gurdwara.”

    Even as Makkar and Jathedar appreciated their efforts, they felt that more work needed to be done on the project. They pointed out some of its technical shortcomings. Team members promised to do more work on the project to remove such shortcomings. In coming days the team will visit the printing press of SGPC where Birs of Guru Granth Sahib are printed in order to address this issue.

    (Source: http://www.sikh24.com/2014/01/austr...ensuring-proper-respect-of-guru-granth-sahib/)
     
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    But this project can give a detail of SGGS jee's savroops distributed by SGPC or any other controlling authority. But what about the existing savroops of SGGS jee. How they can number them??
    Moreover , the system depends upon the response of the individuals (who have their personal copy of the Guru Sahib from these controlling bodies) to report the truth only. Any feedback could be given by e-mails etc.

    Could not follow ..How the actual control over the respect of SGGS jee could be monitored by this programme????
     
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    Hardip ji

    Good points. The quality/logic of the story is a reflection of the news source. :) Critical questions are long in coming.
     
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    Seems like a venture done for the sake of seva. How can we ensure respect? Respect at the moment is purely known as physical respect. The number of birs surrounding Harmander Sahib being effectively used for business purposes selling prayers is phenomenal yet they want to monitor the respect world wide via email lol
     
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    Even if some magic happens and sgpc can keep track , what is the definition of respect here ? I have see people giving warm blankets in winter and light clothes in summer , I have seen people covering the mouth ( reminds of some religion ) while doing path , I have see people reading in like pairs at the same time , I have seen people reading it in groups of like 50 in the same room. Personal opinion , may be good for keeping track but about respect .. not sure.
     
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    Rajwinder ji

    You can probably find your answer by checking the "beadbi watch" on another Sikh forum. I cannot help but smell a rat in this story because the source of the story is part of a network of 'panthic' news venues. They are interconnected and part of the same organization along with the Sikh forum. They are obsessed with 'beadbi."

    The scenario I have in mind - forgive my errors - is that anyone with a copy of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in their home would be asked a number of questions online. Possible questions as guided by the beadbi wathcer websites:
    1. Do you keep Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in a separate room?
    2. Do you have alcohol in the house?
    3. Do family members cover their heads in eye-shot of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and when they are doing path?
    4. Is there dancing where Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji can see the dancing, or hear Miss Pooja?
    5. Do members of your family play music that is offensive to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Offensive defined according to what has been banned or criticized in Punjab.
    6. Are any Hindu rituals performed in your house?
    7. Is meat consumed by your family members?

    etc.

    Of course a person might not tell the truth. For example, deny that any teenager in the home is listening to Hindu bachans full-blast on YouTube, or deny that grandpa eats a halal hamburger. But if any get caught by a beadbi watcher who happens to visit the home, then the beadbi could be reported to Akal Takht. Now, you are caught! Your digital answers don't match up.

    I see this as a digital extension of the web-based surveillance now conducted over gurdwaras, using web sites and facebook to bully management committees who rent out halls for weddings. Particularly in the diaspora, but also in India. Brought into the household, it serves the prospect of surveillance over everyone who has a bir. Whether this is good or bad depends on whether surveillance floats your boat.
     
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    Imho, they need to PUT a CHIP into each Bir..and that CHIP should be able to DETECT environmental conditions..like whether the person carrying it on his head is wearing shoes or is really barefoot..whether he bathed recently..whether his breath reeks of alcohol./tobacco/cough syrup in excess....whether there is "ungurmatt muisc/movies etc being played on tv screens nearby rooms etc..whether there are "meat being cooked ODOURS" in the air...and ALL this DIGITAL info shoudl be 24/7 relayed to NEAREST SGPC "Thanna"...so the law can take its course Immediately...

    THAT CHIP is need of the HOUR...
     
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    Here is another article which provides more specifics regarding the intent and direction of the project. Notice that what is being tracked is more specific. However, nothing about an email survey is mentioned re: the first article. Rather a kind of embedded tracking code is envisioned in the second article. These are important mismatches from one article to the other. So which is believable? Which is the real story? Both articles are clear about taking action against violators. However, exactly what are the proposed violations? Notice that surveillance is nonetheless part of the picture in both stories.

    Software to keep track of Guru Granth Sahib

    Yudhvir Rana

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...of-Guru-Granth-Sahib/articleshow/28696372.cms


    AMRITSAR: Persons violating Maryada (Sikh code of religious conduct) in taking care, maintenance and transportation of Guru Granth Sahib (holy book of Sikhs) could now be traced and action may be initiated against them after development of a new software by Sikh groups of Australia, Canada and UK.

    Sukhbir Singh, from Australia, told TOI on Thursday that there would be a hidden character in the floral boundary of every page of Guru Granth Sahib, which would have coded details like when and where a particular "saroop" (part) of sacred book was published. The person in possession of that particular "saroop" of Guru Granth Sahib would also be registered.

    "This will help the trace mobility of Guru Granth Sahib and Sikh qaum (religion) will know where a particular saroop of our holy book is," said Sukhbir. He said that the project was aimed to achieve transformation of the process of record-keeping and accountability of people who undertake sewa (service) of Guru Granth Sahib, which would be done using computers and secured in a central database.

    He also informed that 25,000 NRI Sikhs had signed and submitted a petition last year in support of this project. Sukhbir said they were working on a project for maintaining "Man Maryada" of Guru Granth Sahib and had reached Amritsar to meet Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) president Avtar Singh Makkar and jathedar of Akal Takht Gurbachan Singh on its completion.

    Hailing effort of Sikh groups to keep honour of Guru Granth Sahib, Gurbachan Singh said, "It was a highly appreciable project as every saroop and the person having it will be on record." He said that SGPC makes best possible arrangements for transportation of saroop of Guru Granth Sahib in and outside India. Makkar said SGPC would extend all cooperation for implementation of the project. However, he said that locally, there could be some teething troubles in implementation of the project.
     
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    Spnadmin Ji..You are on the RIGHT TRACK....its a "project" that has different facets for different people...

    Just for comparison..Muslims dont track the Koran..Chriostians dont track the Bible..Hindus dont track the Bhagvad Gita..and no country tracks its "constitution"..

    BUT Pets like DOGS especially a re Tracked with Chips and the owners who let them stray are the tracked and punished. TRACKING is a form of CONTROL....and it can lead to different circumstances...

    BHAI Gurdass ji writes in his FIRST vaar that Guru Nanak Travel;ed to Mecca Bahgdad Hardwaar, Benares, Kanshi etc etc wearing "BHEKH"..outer clothing to SUIT the Ocassion...Blue Hajji clothes to go to Mecca and Bhagwa to enter Benares..and when He was FINISHED..he came back to Kartarpur to RETIRE...FARM and live a Domestic Life..and he REMOVED all BHEKH and wore Normal daily clothes.

    TODAY...its so common to hear people saying..OH, I am now OLD, retired..and TIME to JAPP NAAM...Leave all WORK and Japp naam..is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT form What Guru nanak ji is SHOWING US..Hes OLD, but he is Not leaving all work and "japping naam"..He is up at dawn and PLOUGHING HIS FARM...So what we are being taught is different form Guru Ji.....

    2. NOTE: Back in the OLD days pictures of Guru Ji PLOUGHING hsi fields were COMMON..but today they are NIL....and repalced by BABA inspitred pictures of Pot bellied Babba nanak sitting with round pillows, and having companions and garva water food fruits ect before him...what a travesty of TRUTH...
     
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