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Sikhism : An Old Wine In - New Bottle

May 27, 2007
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There is nothing to feel so great ,all that we have done is to make a serious person run away. Would you all please tell me as to why when Khushwant singh tells that sikhs are only 'keshdhari hindus' ,that we choose to be silient. And mind it his viewrship is in millions much more than some active members here. We are all quiet when he says that bani is taken from Upnishidas. We have nothiong to state anything ion that case as we shall all have to rise and fight it out. But here we are fighting with a person who may be interested in our religion. It is better for us if some of you fight it out with Khushwant singh. But then he knows a lot as it is his business to know and scandalize, and we cannot save ourself.

we shouild remember any person whom sikhi is told is likely to get the message of Guru sahib.

But some feel different though.
 
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May 27, 2007
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I am giving below the link that discusses the sikhi as per Khushwant singh. I shall like to know if anyone of us has done something about it. Anyone mean any one out of us.

The Voice of Sikh Youth > Important : Khushwant Singh Is Being Honored

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"Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh!!!

I recently found out from a Singh that Khushwant Singh is being honored by Centennial Foundation. As many of us know Khushwant Singh doesn't even consider sikhism as a distinct religion. He claims that sikhs are keshdhari hindus and in many of his articles, he has insulted mahaan shaheeds of the panth . He also blatantly states that he's a wine lover.

Please Khalsa ji, take some time to contact the Centennial Foundation and let them know that such a person shouldn't be honored as a Sikh. Clearly its a failure to honor someone such as him and give him the status of a role model for our young Sikh brothers and sisters."
unquote.

I can provide tens of link like this.

Regards to all as all of you should be elder to me.
 
May 27, 2007
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Khushwant Singh On Guru Granth Sahib and Japu Ji sahib,
Guru Granth Sahib is From Hindu Philosphy.
Japu Ji sahib From Upnishda.


I am giving below the extracts of interview that appears on the following pages:

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J.S.T.: What about the statements that suggest that Sikhs are kes-dhari [sporting unshorn hair] Hindus? You yourself wrote in The Wall Street Journal (Oct. 12, 2001) that Sikhism is a branch of Hinduism.

K.S.: That is correct. Sikhs are kes-dhari Hindus. Their religious source is Hinduism. Sikhism is a tradition developed within Hinduism. Guru Granth Sahib reflects Vedantic philosophy and Japji Sahib is based on the Upanishads. "
Unquote

I am pain as much as you will be.

Please visit this page.
The Sikh Times - Biographies - Khushwant Singh: "Japji Sahib is Based on the Upanishads"

Also see the extracts as posted in Wikipedia.
User talk:Sukh/Archive 4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
User talk:Sukh/Archive 4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Khushwant Singh considers himself an agnostic from a Sikh background. He keeps his Sikh atire as part of his identity: [1]

"Khushwant Singh: When I was in England as a student, socialism was much talked about among us. We read and discussed Bertrand Russell and attended lectures by Harold J. Laski. I have not retained many socialistic ideas, but I am still an agnostic.

"J.S.T.: You are a non-believer, yet you spent a night at Bangla Sahib gurdwara to seek the Guru's support during a difficult time in your personal life when your wife had threatened to leave you.


"K.S.: This is one of those things - a contradiction. It was an emotional issue for me. I was born and raised in a Sikh family. I still keep my beard and turban and identify myself with the Sikh community. "


That being said, Khushwant Singh believes that Sikhs are merely kesh-dari Hindus: "Sikhs are kes-dhari Hindus. Their religious source is Hinduism. Sikhism is a tradition developed within Hinduism. Guru Granth Sahib reflects Vedantic philosophy and Japji Sahib is based on the Upanishads. "


He is the one whom world knows as a sikh. We have no say. Our say is only in in-hoiuse fighting. Why don't you keep yourself armed with the basic knowledge of Sikhi.

Keep On Watching these things as eye soothener.
 
Feb 21, 2007
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roopk ji
do you realy think that khushwant singh is a role model for the young?
great writer nothing else, if you are so mad at k.singh, what about jathedar of akal thakt,vedanti who has said thet we are all offsprings off luv, khus, sons of ram&sita.
what should you suggest we do with him.
 
May 17, 2007
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India..
roopk ji
do you realy think that khushwant singh is a role model for the young?
great writer nothing else


I agree with you Tarlochan ji but the fact is that Khushwant is a sikh and his audience is much more big than 100 or so.?It is for SGPC as well that people with anti-sikhi values should not be retained in the Panth if they are found to flaunt the basic rules.
 
May 17, 2007
97
3
India..
Khushwant Singh On Guru Granth Sahib and Japu Ji sahib,
Guru Granth Sahib is From Hindu Philosphy.
Japu Ji sahib From Upnishda.


I am giving below the extracts of interview that appears on the following pages:

Quote
J.S.T.: What about the statements that suggest that Sikhs are kes-dhari [sporting unshorn hair] Hindus? You yourself wrote in The Wall Street Journal (Oct. 12, 2001) that Sikhism is a branch of Hinduism.

K.S.: That is correct. Sikhs are kes-dhari Hindus. Their religious source is Hinduism. Sikhism is a tradition developed within Hinduism. Guru Granth Sahib reflects Vedantic philosophy and Japji Sahib is based on the Upanishads. "
Unquote

I am pain as much as you will be.

Please visit this page.
The Sikh Times - Biographies - Khushwant Singh: "Japji Sahib is Based on the Upanishads"

Also see the extracts as posted in Wikipedia.
User talk:Sukh/Archive 4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
User talk:Sukh/Archive 4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Khushwant Singh considers himself an agnostic from a Sikh background. He keeps his Sikh atire as part of his identity: [1]

"Khushwant Singh: When I was in England as a student, socialism was much talked about among us. We read and discussed Bertrand Russell and attended lectures by Harold J. Laski. I have not retained many socialistic ideas, but I am still an agnostic.

"J.S.T.: You are a non-believer, yet you spent a night at Bangla Sahib gurdwara to seek the Guru's support during a difficult time in your personal life when your wife had threatened to leave you.


"K.S.: This is one of those things - a contradiction. It was an emotional issue for me. I was born and raised in a Sikh family. I still keep my beard and turban and identify myself with the Sikh community. "


That being said, Khushwant Singh believes that Sikhs are merely kesh-dari Hindus: "Sikhs are kes-dhari Hindus. Their religious source is Hinduism. Sikhism is a tradition developed within Hinduism. Guru Granth Sahib reflects Vedantic philosophy and Japji Sahib is based on the Upanishads. "


He is the one whom world knows as a sikh. We have no say. Our say is only in in-hoiuse fighting. Why don't you keep yourself armed with the basic knowledge of Sikhi.

Keep On Watching these things as eye soothener.

Yes, I do feel sad and most of us will do think that something should be done in this regard.
 
May 27, 2007
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The following is added here so that one can refer to it as and when equired. One may post hereany other material that clarifies that Sikhism and Hinduism are two disticnt and different religions and the Sikhi is not a branch out Of Hinduism.


Millions of Krishnas

In the Akal Ustat, Guru Singh describes God by making use of metaphysical references, imaginative language and image-creating phases. Extended similes and comparisons are also employed, addressing directly the expression of the deity in other religious traditions.

"There are millions of Indras and incarnations of Brahma, Vishnu and Krishna. But, without worship of God, none are accepted in His Court." (stanza 38)

Sikhism Discards Hindu’s Vedas and Shastras


All the Vedas, the religious books of the Muslims, the Simirtis and Shashtras, by reading these, salvation is not obtained. He who by Guru's instruction utters the one Name; He gathers the pure glory." (Guru Arjan Dev, Suhi, pg. 747)

Rituals Of Hindus Discarded.
  • Although respected, the Vedas, Puranas, Shastras (Hindu scriptures) hold no relevance to Sikhs.
  • Sikhs do not believe in fasting
  • Sikhs do not believe in the tilak and jineu, marks of the Hindu
  • Sikhs do not believe in high caste or low, all are one in the eyes of the Lord.
  • Sikhs do not hold any significance in ritual shaving of the head, in fact removing of hair id forbidden in Sikhism.
  • Sikhs reject of Idol worship
  • Although Sikhs respect great deities like Brahama, Shivji and Vishnu there belief in the One almighty God is unshakable[1].
  • You may bathe and wash, and apply a ritualistic tilak mark to your forehead, but without inner purity, there is no understanding. ||6||Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Raag Raamkalee. p903

Akal Creates Millions Of Krishnas and annihilate Them



  • The Lord Akal creates millions of Krishna, annihilates them and recreates them. Some hang stones as gods around their necks, while others erroneously call Mahesh 'God' I have discarded all these false religions and am of the firm view that He who is the creator of the Universe, is the only Lord. Everyone is caught in the noose of Death, no Rama or prophet can escape from it. All of them who made grand claims of being Avtars of God died repentant. Why doest not thou, O, hapless being seek the shelter of the One Lord. (15th swayya) Dasam Granth
[1] Sikh Information Guru Nanak Gobind Singh
 

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