The power to bring life into the world is perhaps one of the world's greatest powers, and this is a God-given gift to women. They have the power to give birth to new life, and that is awesome. The process of a single cell growing in a matter of months to a human child and in a matter of years to fully grown humans is mindblowing! Guru Nanak Dev ji puts this wonderfully when he says: ਮਃ ੧ ॥ Guru Nanak Dev ji ਭੰਡਿ ਜੰਮੀਐ ਭੰਡਿ ਨਿੰਮੀਐ ਭੰਡਿ ਮੰਗਣੁ ਵੀਆਹੁ ॥ Woman gives birth, woman creates the baby, to ask for a woman is marriage. ਭੰਡਹੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਦੋਸਤੀ ਭੰਡਹੁ ਚਲੈ ਰਾਹੁ ॥ Through this friendship with woman, the society goes forward. ਭੰਡੁ ਮੁਆ ਭੰਡੁ ਭਾਲੀਐ ਭੰਡਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਬੰਧਾਨੁ ॥ When his woman dies, we look for another, and bond with her. ਸੋ ਕਿਉ ਮੰਦਾ ਆਖੀਐ ਜਿਤੁ ਜੰਮਹਿ ਰਾਜਾਨ ॥ Why call her bad when she gives birth to kings? ਭੰਡਹੁ ਹੀ ਭੰਡੁ ਊਪਜੈ ਭੰਡੈ ਬਾਝੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥ Woman gives birth to woman, without woman there would be noone. ਨਾਨਕ ਭੰਡੈ ਬਾਹਰਾ ਏਕੋ ਸਚਾ ਸੋਇ ॥ O Nanak, only the True Lord is without a woman. ਜਿਤੁ ਮੁਖਿ ਸਦਾ ਸਾਲਾਹੀਐ ਭਾਗਾ ਰਤੀ ਚਾਰਿ ॥ That mouth which praises the Lord continually is blessed and beautiful. ਨਾਨਕ ਤੇ ਮੁਖ ਊਜਲੇ ਤਿਤੁ ਸਚੈ ਦਰਬਾਰਿ ॥੨॥ O Nanak, their faces shall be radiant in the court of the True Lord. ||2|| Child-bearing is a huge responsibility not just for the parents but also for the immediate family and the larger society. This means the arrival of a child changes the life of those who are around it. It is a life-changing experience which continues to effect your life through to the end. Thus a woman who is about to have a child effects those around her, for the most part her husband, his parents and family, and her own family. The society is effected by new life, a cause for celebration every year and a potential for progress. This thread revolves around the role of men with regards to the birth of a child. As husbands and as fathers Should men get a say in when women should have a child? And the reasons for your response. Do they get a say in real life? And the reasons for your response. As grandfathers, as uncles and from outside the family as kathavachaks, as gurus, as other members of a collective society... Should these men get a say in when women should have a child? And the reasons for your response. Do they get a say in real life? And the reasons for your response.