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Sikh News Row over new religion: ‘Dera directive can’t be enforced on entire community’

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  1. kds1980

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    Row over new religion: ‘Dera directive can’t be enforced on entire community’

    Posted: Tuesday , Feb 02, 2010 at 2353 hrs
    Jalandhar:



    After the announcement by Dera Sachkhand Ballan of founding a separate religion —Ravidassia —at an event to mark the 633rd birth anniversary of Sant Ravidass in Varanasi on Saturday, several dissenting voices are being heard. The dera has also announced that the community will have a separate religious book titled ‘Amrit Bani Guru Ravidass’, which contains 240 hymns by Guru Ravidass, a separate symbol ‘Har’ and a separate motto ‘Jai Gurudev’.



    Addressing a press conference, Gian Chand, convener of Samaj Bachao Morcha, which represents a section of Dalits, stated that the dera’s directive could not be enforced on the entire community. Claiming that the dera’s name was being used by certain persons for their vested interests, ha said Dera Sachkhand Ballan chief Sant Niranjan Dass had never spoken on the issue. He added that at the recent celebrations in Varanasi, all traditions of the Guru Granth Sahib were followed.




    Demanding the reason for Sant Niranjan Dass’ silence on the issue, Chand said he should be brought before the media as “this decision could not be his own”. Morcha members said they had the utmost respect for Guru Ravidass’ bani but at the same time the community cannot turn its back towards the Guru Granth Sahib. Dera Sachkhand Ballan came into the limelight after the Vienna incident, wherein Sant Ramananad, the deputy of Sant Niranjan Dass, was murdered in an attack allegedly carried out by some Sikhs in May last year. Sant Niranjan Dass was injured in the attack. The motive behind the attack is still not known and Austrian police are still investigating the case. Several members of the sect, in a major departure from tradition, had stopped placing the Guru Granth Sahib in the Ravidass temples after the attack, but gradually the birs were reintroduced.


    Ravidassia community part and parcel of Sikhism: Makkar
    AMRITSAR:Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) chief Avtar Singh Makkar said there was no move to remove the Guru Granth Sahib from the gurdwaras named after Sant Ravidass. “The Ravidassia community should not restrict the great saint to itself as he was an apostle of peace and humanity for the whole of mankind. The Ravidassia community is part and parcel of Sikhism and all Sikhs place a high regard on the teachings of Sant Ravidass,” he said.


    Security tightened
    Activists of Ambedkar Sena (Mool Niwasi) termed Gian Chand a traitor and raised slogans against the Samaj Bachao Morcha and its leaders outside the Press Club on Monday. The police rushed to the spot and managed to control the unruly scene. Superintendent of Police (Headquarters) Satinder Singh escorted Gian Chand to his residence. Later, security was strengthened in the city and the areas around the dera.


    Sant Niranjan Dass back in city
    Ravidassia-Begumpura Express, a train hired by Dera Sachkhand Ballan for carrying devotees to Varanasi to celebrate the birth anniversary of Guru Ravidass at his birth place (Seer Gowardhanpur) returned to Jalandhar on Monday with Dera head Sant Niranjan Dass and his aide Sant Surinder Dass Bawa on board. At the railway station, about 300 dera followers welcomed the sants. The dera management, however, chose not to speak to the mediapersons who had gathered at the railway station.
     
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    So now this so called new religion want to impose itself on ravidasia like talibans
     
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    Re: Row over new religion: ‘Dera directive can’t be enforced on entire community’

    One thing I don't get. Whats the difference between this new faith and the Ravidassia faith? The one with Ravi written inside the sun. This one Ravidasi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Re: Row over new religion: ‘Dera directive can’t be enforced on entire community’

    The stupid Indian media must be really stupid to not know how relgion comes into being. The stupid Indian media and more stupid Ballan Dera make it as if starting a new religion is as easy forming a new committee. Get a mob, lay down some rules, make some declaration and whoa ! - its done. Not only has the common people degenerated but the journalism in India is far down in gutter. And sadly India doesnt have another option and no more foreigner rulers are coming to give India a new direction. Pathetic.
     
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    Ravidasia's still consider themself as Hindu or sikh.This dera want's that they will severe ties particularly with sikhism
     
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    Indian media is still Funded by USA or communists.India' most popular english news channel is CNN ibn
     
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    Are you saying that CNN is backed by the CIA? I don't know about CNN-IBN, but that would come as a surprise.
     
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    I don't know who fund CNN but CNN is very popular American news channel
    and now they have tie up with IBN 7 and most popular journalists of India which are working with them.They have channels now in several Indian languages
     
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    Re: Row over new religion: ‘Dera directive can’t be enforced on entire community’

    And if i am not wrong the Hindi version of IBN, IBN LIVE is very popular among masses. They fuel a lot of rumours. News like a cow doing rounds of shadow of moon and stuff is very popular among zee news aajtak and help increase viewer ratings. In reality this balan dera is nothing. People in India generally are very religious and participate in large numbers in any religious or spiritual matter. Just because people come out in large numbers during Bhagat Ravidas celebrations does not mean they follow Balan dera blindly. They follow Bhagat Ravidas. Dera Sacha Sauda boasted of 15 million following. It found difficult to gather 15 men when sikhs turned against it. Dera Balan has a difficult task ahead if it wants to take on Sikhs. There is another thing when you are pampered for votes by the govt, however when it comes to locking horns with Sikhs, even the powerful Union Govt. of Congress thinks twice. So, i wouldnt worry too much about this issue.
     
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    Re: Row over new religion: ‘Dera directive can’t be enforced on entire community’

    "Hari" is written inside the sun not ravi.
     

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