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Sikh News Rashtriya Sikh Sangat - A Challenge to Sikh Identity

Discussion in 'Breaking News' started by Arvind, Aug 12, 2004.

  1. Arvind

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    They make 90% of indian population and still feel insecure... i think why ?
     
  4. Gyani Jarnail Singh

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    Power struggle is basic ECONOMICS

    Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki fateh.


    Even if they were 100% they would still feel insecure ?
    Why ? because they work on the wrong premise !!

    Same religion..... doesnt mean all will be A-OK. Look at Pakistan...and how the Punjabi Muslims in the WEST treated the Bengalis in the East. Being of the same religion didnt help in the least.

    Same language.... doesnt always work either.... the Americans all speak English...But the Blacks, the Hispanics, the germans, the Jews, the Italians, the french, the Sikhs, the Chinese all get mistreated once in a while..Millions of White Americans died in a civil war over slavery..

    Same way Hindu-Hindu-Hindustan wont solve any problem..the Hindu in Haryana will fight the Hindu in Maharashtra...the Hindu in himachal will fight the Hindu in Tamilnadu....because the real fight is over ECONOMIC power and Resources. The Punjabi Muslims controlled the Economics and Power resources in Pakistan....and the religion of Islam in Bengal couldnt stop that fight for a share....similarly the HINDU farmer in PUNJAB will NOT share his water with the HINDU farmer in haryana...same religion....language etc not withstanding.

    The "hate" against the Sikhs stems basically from their economic power..the Sikhs are wealthy and industrious....they excel in whatever they do....and that is not liked by some. Even if ALL the SIKHS were to "somehow "converet" to Hinduism overnight...the present problems of PUNJAB with haryana over water capital etc will STILL CONTINUE...because the "PUNJABIS" will still be wealthier, stronger etc asnd that will excite jealousy among others less privileged.
     
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    Nicely explained, I 100% agree with you, Sir.
     
  6. etinder

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    I also feel that we all human beings have this viscious streak of vengeance and hatred, sometimes covert and sometimes overt and at a single chance this wud come out, it just needs a ventilation.. so belonging to any religion has nothing to do with it.. and this is a bitter truth and we have been proving it time n again since centuries..
     
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    Ek Oankar Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh

    Das since times has been telling RSS like people that there harping that Sikhs are Hindu will further cause divide.

    Das tells you all what is a perfect example of self contradiction.Hinduism is one of that a race or nationality pretended to be a religeon.

    If you go to the official website of RSS.(Das is withholding the addresss to avoid its popualrity).

    There policy regarding Sikhs is,They agree that Sikhs are seperate religeon yet say that it is part of Hindu Commenwealth.

    It is like milk is not in frezeer but occupies the place in cold storage.Just twisting the words to put mask on hidden angenda.

    That was the main reason that Veer Savarkar Ji,Who these people claim to be there was biggest critics of Mr Gowelkers way of action and Sangh at that time.

    If falsehood and confusion are made as a vehicle of preaching,even when siding with just cause one is bound to loose.As comrades loose confidance.

    In that time Hindu Mahasabha was after them.At present Vishwa Hindu Parishad and Bajrang Dal of old and youths are pointing fingers on RSS for there support to BJP,Which betrayed the hindu cause.

    Beter for RSS is to leave the Sikhs on there own.No true Sikh can think of Bad for Hindus or Indians(Das hope all will support this view of Das).Instead of wasting energy and funds on Rashtriya Sikh Sangat bettter divert it for
    Sewa Bharti or Vanvasi Kalyaan Parishad,They are the cadres of RSS working with poors and tribals.

    many such people are misguided into other religion by frudelunt means.And das knows that they are laways in short of money and even food. Sikh can part daswandh for good deeds even if RSS does it. But useless interventions with others religeon ,without knowing what your own reality is always counter productive.

    It is sad that RSS still has not learnt from past expirences.

    Sikhs do not belive in divisions based on national boundries so name Nation or Rashterya is not acceptable to any Sikh.

    This sangat has more hindus(they term Sahijdhari hindus) then Sikhs.Sahijdhari means a non Sikh,who is slowly adopting (Sahi Dharan) Sikhism and will ultimatly become Khalsa,with 5ks. So Sahijdhari Hindu means one ,who is slowly becoming hindu.

    Such hindus not at all awre of Sikhism and unsuccessfully try to fit Sikhism in hindutva frame. And that leads to twisitng the standards of Sikhism and does hurting sentments of Sikhs.

    So Called Sikh members of this organisations are realy Kesdhrai Hindus as they only keep uncut hairs but are not aware of ture Sikhism ,had they know it,they would not have been its member.

    Das again says,Whenever Hindus are in need we should go to help them but for that we must have to term ourselves as hindu.

    Savarker Ji Said this clearly that they are ready to give Sikhs tilanjali(offering of seasame or til to departed deads) if they do not want to be part of hinduism(book Hindutva Paribhasha).bajrang Dal also gives Sikhs,Muslims and Chrsitians as same staus as Hindu(which too as per das is wrong as hinduism is not a religeon unlike other three).

    so if there idealogue was ready,Sikhs are ready then why like a female monkey with dead infant,they (RSS) still press for Sikhs being hindu.As per Vedas of Sanatan Dhrama,God is one various learned call God by different name.That God is more then sufficient to unite Sikhs and Hindus.All other overture are bound to be counter productive.
     

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