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    Scientific references in the story of Prophet Lot Holy Prophet peace be upon him) Peace be upon you respected members of the Forum
    In this story we live with some scientific facts to learn from them, and sure of that Islam is the religion of truth, to read, thank God Almighty for the blessing of Islam .....

    The story of Prophet Lut peace be upon him
    lived a prophet of God «Lot» peace be upon him working in the village of immorality and angry God do evil things. Their participation was refused, and away from them and go and worship God. Have therefore chosen to Allah Almighty to be sending a prophet to his people to warn them of the punishment of Allah and invites them to give up evil, and instruct them to worship Allah and be clean and fear Allah.
    Allah says about those infidels, and how the prophet Lot advise them to leave their evil actions that offend God, and that these evil and evil is of their making was not preceded by the one of people: ((80) And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people , "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?) [norms: 80].

    They had to make various forms of immorality and violate the divine instinct, and make things reprehensible not preceded by one of the people before them. They were engaged in adultery with each other openly, "males with males" and this is what we now call homosexuality, or homosexuality.
    The lie of his people, and did not listen to him, and speaks God to say the people of Lot for their Prophet peace be upon him and how was their answer when he called on them to faith: ((82) But the answer of his people was only that they said, "Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure. "[customs: 82].

    But what happened after that?
    God has sent to Lot's guests Fastqublhm, but did not know them, they were angels, and they came in the image of men. I knew when the infidels that Lot has guests rushed home and wanted to attack the guests. When they reached him and tried to assault the angels, which they thought they were men, the angels said to the Prophet Lot: ((81) The angels said, "O Lot, indeed we are messengers of your Lord; [therefore], they will never reach you. So set out with your family during a portion of the night and let not any among you look back - except your wife; indeed, she will be struck by that which strikes them. Indeed, their appointment is [for] the morning. Is not the morning near ? ") [Hud: 81]

    . Lot's wife may peace be upon him was a kaafir, Lot did not believe the message of peace be upon him, therefore, hit the agony.

    Prophet Lot and goes with his family and walking at night and when he came out of the village, God revealed the torment of the infidels, and started raining on them, but not rain water, but rain of stones! When Lot and his family heard the voice of suffering people of the village did not pay attention, but his wife turned back Vosaptha stones she died. Thus Allaah saved Lot and his family and the infidels. Allah says about the torment of the people of Lot: ((83) So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers].
    (84) And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.) [Norms: 83-84].

    Mental disorders from the results of homosexuality
    The scientists observed that the white substance in the brain decreases when the homosexuals, the white matter represents the communication channels between brain cells, and the amount of the loss of even a few of them lead to the inability of the brain to coordinate operations between the cells, so the human infected with dementia or Alzheimer's.

    The decrease in the white matter leads to considerable disruption in the mechanism of action of the brain, and therefore find a homosexual can not make informed decisions, and find the proportion of violence to have the largest, as well as their acute stress they suffer with the passage of time, just like a human being drunk does not understand what to do!! This is what the Quran told us about the people of Lot: ((72) By your life, [O Muhammad], indeed they were, in their intoxication, wandering blindly ..) [stone: 72].

    In Western countries there is widespread today and this is largely because we find a man living with another man or woman with a woman, living a married couple, and statistics show that the rate of violence between homosexuals is very large, up to 18 times the natural violence between couples. The rate of violence and beatings of homosexuals to more than 30 percent, according to these statistics (Statistics Canada, Canada's National Statistical Agency, July 7, 2005).

    The researchers in this area is natural that the relations between any same-sex marriage homosexuality and calls it, does not last for more than two or three years, and the biggest proof that anything contrary to human nature God does not continue and bear fruit!

    AIDS and the deadly bacteria from the results of anomaly
    There are many diseases are caused by homosexuality, perhaps led by AIDS, the harvesting of AIDS since 1980 and until the end of 2005 more than 27 million people are men, women and children, and in 2005 alone has lost more than 3 million people lost their lives, and there are more than 40 million people living with this virus will die sooner or later.

    The researchers emphasize that most cases of HIV infection resulting from abnormal sexual relations and sexual relations prohibited drugs, and all these things are forbidden by God Almighty, and we should think about the results from drifting away from God's path and the instinct of the divine mushroom man.
    According to a story on the BBC website: research pointed to the emergence of a new type of MRSA bacteria more deadly violent can lead to infection of severe acute respiratory type, which results in erosion and damage to the tissues of the lungs. The research adds that these bacteria can be spread in the gay communities, and it seems that the Castro district in San Francisco have been hardest hit.


    Homosexuality and purity
    Scientists confirm that homosexuality is a process that contributes to the transfer of viruses and bacteria harmful easily between homosexuals, so the prophet Lot and his family are safe with him were eager to purify himself and stay away from those homosexuals, and for that was his problem with his people that a person Taher, and this is what told the Koran on the tongue of his people: ((82) But the answer of his people was only that they said, "Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure." [customs: 82]. In this verse reference that homosexuality violates the purity.


    Therefore find doctors today call for the need to shower after sexual activity! This is Dr. "with Depp," in a medical center in the San Francisco General Hospital said: "These infections (bacterial) resistance to the drugs often affect gay men at body sites in which comes in contact with skin during sex, and perhaps the best way to avoid infection bacteria is to wash thoroughly with soap and water especially after sexual activities. "
    Therefore commanded by God Almighty to Nttehr janaabah after all! Purity, but God made a condition of prayer is not valid unless it, is there more beautiful than the true religion? Allah says: ((6) O you who have believed, when you rise to [perform] prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of jan bah, then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful.) [Table 6].


    The Lord
    Therefore, God punished all those who commit such immorality rain of stones inflamed, which is what comes out of volcanoes or come from heaven in the form of meteorites, the Almighty says about the torment of the people of Lot: ((74) And We made the highest part [of the city ] its lowest and rained upon them stones of hard clay) [stone: 74]. This year God in His creation,

    As with the population of the city of Bombay.
    It was a resident of Bombay practicing all types of homosexuality, the researchers found in this city on the inscriptions are many and fees pornographic indicates widespread gender and homosexuality in this city, and the researchers stress that the owners of the city of Bombay, they have sex in public and in front of children and were never shy of filming these scenes and displayed in front of people in homes and houses, and even proud of it! The researchers say the spread of immorality in this city was much larger than the current age!

    On the day they devote to celebrate the god of fire, there were a sudden volcano nearby the city, and began molten lava and volcanic ash fiery Aftmr this city during the few moments with ashes, and with that the people of the city prevented escape, but ash volatile killed on the spot, and covered their bodies turning this objects through hundreds of years into rock fossilized in moments without being able to do anything, we do not find this scene only to remember God's words: ((95) Then We exchanged in place of the bad [condition], good, until they increased [and prospered] and said, "Our fathers [also] were touched with hardship and ease." So We seized them suddenly while they did not perceive.) [norms: 95].
    Images of suffering

    Fossilized bodies hit the rain of volcanic ash, they have a moment of agony living their normal lives, gave them a sudden agony, and in the moments around the entire city to the bodies of the dead. The picture shows the size of the torment and the pain caused to those people. This is the end of the mundane only, the Almighty says: ((127) And thus do We recompense he who transgressed and did not believe in the signs of his Lord. And the punishment of the Hereafter is more severe and more enduring.) [Taha: 127] .


    The bodies of a population of Bombay injury torment, and God willing, to present to the people to be a lesson for those who succeeded, would we consider? That the city applies to tell the truth the Blessed and Almighty: ((44) So when they forgot that by which they had been reminded, We opened to them the doors of every [good] thing until, when they rejoiced in that which they were given, We seized them suddenly, and they were [then] in despair. Add new comment (45) So the people that committed wrong were eliminated. And praise to Allah, Lord of the worlds. Add new comment) [cattle: 44-45] . And already has opened the doors of blessings upon them, money and luxury and richness, even taking them suddenly and unexpectedly, the Fire Vamahm any desperate of the mercy of God.

    Finally let us consider the text of the Qur'an portrays us in a wonderful eloquent story can not be integrated to the greatest writer to portray us a complete story in a few words, and this miracle of the Qur'an, Allah says: ((160) The people of Lot denied the messenger
    (161) When their brother Lot said to them, "Will you not fear Allah
    (162) Indeed, I am to you a trustworthy messenger
    (163) So fear Allah and obey me
    (164) And I do not ask you for it any payment. My payment is only from the Lord of the worlds
    (165) Do you approach males among the world * * and forsake what you create your Lord of the wives, but you are a people Aadon * said while not over my Lot to be among the directors * (168) He said, "Indeed, I am, toward your deed, of those who detest [it]
    (169)
    (170) So We saved him and his family, all
    (171) Except an old woman among those who remained behind
    (172) Then We destroyed the others
    (173) And We rained upon them a rain [of stones], and evil was the rain of those who were warned
    (174) Indeed in that is a sign, but most of them were not to be believers
    (175) And indeed, your Lord - He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful) [poets: 160-175].
     
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    Re: Prophet Lot and the painful reality Today*****

    - 2005 National Crime Victimization Survey, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice. - Salvatore Ciro Nappo, Pompeii: Its Discovery and Preservation, www.bbc.co.uk - Pompeii, www.wikipedia.org
     
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    No they do not!
    There are so many things wrong with this post but the above statement in particular is likely to cause offence to a significant number of people so I will just emphasise this is your view on this thread that you have posted

    Now last me ask you a couple of things:

    1) What does the term "kaafir" mean to you
    2) I think it is reasonable to say that Jesus, Buddha, the Gurus were tolerant individuals. Was The Prophet tolerant as well? If so, give examples from Scripture demonstrating tolerance and love for others
     
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    *bangs head against wall*
     
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    Inshna ji..you presupposed that he has a "head"....i dont think he has any besides the one you know where..he he no offense....gays are also humans and they have heads too...
     
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    Homophobes are the problem not Homosexuals!
     
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    Apologies Gyani ji, the expression is one of personal exasperation, of banging one's own head against the wall in frustration. peacesignkaur
     
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    It's at times like these that I think a "dislike" button would be rather handy!
     
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    On a side note I am sure their were Gay people around at the time of the Guru's. I am sure they would not have been excluded from Sangat.
     
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    There will be 2 sides to every coin, an exception to every 'rule'
     
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    This was the exact reason it was introduced at first place! I was shocked to receive very little support for dislike button! Should i start a new member poll to decide whether we should re-introduce this feature? swordfight
     
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    Maybe a good idea.
    I think that if it's used appropriately, at the right place and time, then of course it is a valuable tool that is easily accessible.
    Nice, simple and perfect!!!
     
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    Aman Singh ji why use "Buttons" when the "sword of the pen swordfight :swordfight-kudiyan:" can be used as effectively and more precisely? peacesign I know in this fast food, fast paced world a "CLICK" is Nirvana but I will say let us handle such posts head on or report if so obnoxious to be deleted.

    To tell you the truth I hardly pay attention to Naben ji's posts with any level of seriousness other than treat these as from one with mind beyond repair!

    Regards.
     
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    Unlike the lord-god of abraham, our GURUS didnt feel the need to invade peoples bedrooms to see what they were doing.
    Following their lord-god the present day followers have no compunction in breaking down peoples doors to .."catch red handed" people doing what should be strictly private matters. From that follows open persecution, public humiliation,discrimination, arrests courts rehabilitation attempts etc etc etc....in fact a DISPROPORTIONATE Chunk of RESOURCES, manpower, Administration etc is spent on doing this "work"..all coming out of taxes paid by hardworking people who dont even follow the abrahamic religions..
     
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    May I be so bold as to ask what value Mr Naben's posts are bringing to this particular Sikh forum? I'm all for interfaith dialogue, learning about other religions, etc, but SPN is primarily about SIKHI and when no attempt is made at comparative dialogue then whats the point?

    Naben, what are you trying to achieve by bringing this information to SPN's doorstep?
     
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    Yes please :)
     
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    Even though 99.9% of the posts dont warrant it..apparently Naben's posts qualify.....I will use the DISLIKE button on these.
     
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    See the variety of religious convictions, while homosexual people are getting death sentence in muslim countries.. many catholic paedophiles don't go convicted!
     
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    Thats REALITY..the REAL one...

    IN India one gets 10 years for cow slaughter..BUT..nothing happens if you put a rubber tire around a Sikh neck and set him on fire..
     
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    The only thing fair in this world is nature, when earthquake or tsunami strikes, it doesn't consult any priest about should this guy be tried?
     
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