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Discussion in 'Sikh Sikhi Sikhism' started by I. Brian, Jun 18, 2004.
Hi there -
Which other texts are highly regarded by Sikhs, aside from the Adi Granth?
please remember that the pronounciation of "Adi Granth" is actually "Aad Granthh" with a soft "th" and no "ee" after "Aad"
And it is revered as the Guru, and not a simple text
Divinely inspired scriptures directly from Guru's pen (Gurbani) are also included in the writings of Guru Gobind Singh and some writings of Guru Nanak, which are not included in Guru Granth Sahib
Divinely inspired scriptures directly from a Sikh's pen (Bani) are in the writings of Bhai Gurdas, Bhai Gurdas II, and Bhai Nand Lal.
Respected orders and letters (a.k.a. rehitnamas and hukamnamas) are from Guru Gobind Singh, Mata Sundari, Mata Sahib Kaur, Bhai Daya Singh, Bhai Chaupa Singh, Baba Banda Singh and Guru Tegh Bahadur.
please forgive my mistakes
Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh!
Other Gurbani (Guru's Word) highly regarded by traditional (Sanatan) Sikhs are Dasam Guru Granth and Sarbloh Granth.Both these Granth (lit."tome", "book") are considered wholly the work of Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh by Sanatan Sikhs, but not the majority of Sikhs.Especially the Sarbloh Granth is seen to have a dubious compilation and authorship by mainstream Sikhs.You can learn more about Dasam Guru Granth (aka Dasam Guru Darbar) and Sarloh Granth (aka Sarbloh Guru Darbar) at:
Dear Khalsapreet ji,
My knowledge of Sikh writings is paltry, so please excuse me if I sound very ignorant...but...
You said that there have been TWO Bhai Gurdases? Could you tell me more about this (their bios, wriing styles, etc.)
Yeah, that would be the first I've heard of it, Bhai Gurdas II?
Also I pronounce it Adi Granth, I've only heard it pronounced Adi, I've never heard it as Aad Granth.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki fateh.
Here is some information about Bhai Gurdass II. www.tapoban.org website.
From the very onset, Brahmanical influences have always remained hostile to the Sikh movement. A few instances would show how with this influence on people in general, some subverts were at work to subvert the movement from within. The move was so subtle that truth could not be sifted for long. Perhaps it took a century or two to find out. For instance, there was one Koer Singh who wrote Gur-Bilas Patshai Dasmi in 1751, 43 years after the demise of Guru Gobind Singh. He was a Vaishnav Hindu – Bishan Chand. He admits that he was a Sikh only by name. He invented a myth that before the creation of the Khalsa Guru Gobind Singh worshipped mythical Hindu goddess Durga and that he was blessed by other mythical gods and goddesses of the Hindus. He propagated that all Gurus of the Sikhs were in fact, avtars – incarnation of Lord Vishnu. This is pure blasphemy as we know from the study of Gurbani. He did not stop short there. He wrote a ballad (vaar) in praise of Guru Gobind Singh under the pen name Bhai Gurdas Singh and had it added as vaar 41 of Bhai Gurdas who was contemporary of the Sikh Gurus (from third to sixth Guru). This vaar 41 mislead the Sikhs in believing that Khalsa was created by Guru Gobind Singh to put an end to the religion of Prophet Mohammed. This goes against the basic principles of the Sikh Gurus (ref: Pauri 16 and 17). " Madan Singh.
The very fact that Vaar 41 is different in content/time/ etc shows that it cannot be by the First Bhai gurdass as Guru Gobind Singh Ji was not yet born durign Bhai gurdass Ji's time....and WHY add one's vaar to the vaars of another...that is malafide intention. It took hundred years to discover this truth.
The word for Aad Granth in Punjabi is spelt as : A(siharee) d Granth. The SIHARI before the Dadda in AAis accordign to Gurbani Grammar and it denotes SINGULAR...First foremost Granth.
Hense the correct pronounciation is AAd Granth and not ADI...which word is meaningless.
Jarnail Sin gh
That s a good deal of information Gyani ji.