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  1. drkhalsa

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    kbIr mnu pMKI BieE auif auif dh ids jwie ]
    Kabeer, the mind has become a bird; it soars and flies in the ten directions.
    kabeer man pankhee bhaeiou oudd oudd dheh dhis jaae ||
    1 Salok Saint Kabir

    jo jYsI sMgiq imlY so qYso Plu Kwie ]86]
    According to the company it keeps, so are the fruits it eats. ||86||
    jo jaisee sangath milai so thaiso fal khaae ||86||
    1 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr jw kau Kojqy pwieE soeI Tauru ]
    Kabeer, you have found that place which you were seeking.
    kabeer jaa ko khojathae paaeiou soee thour ||
    2 Salok Saint Kabir

    soeI iPir kY qU BieAw jw kau khqw Aauru ]87]
    You have become that which you thought was separate from yourself. ||87||
    soee fir kai thoo bhaeiaa jaa ko kehathaa aour ||87||
    2 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr mwrI mrau kusMg kI kyly inkit ju byir ]
    Kabeer, I have been ruined and destroyed by bad company, like the banana plant near the thorn bush.
    kabeer maaree maro kusang kee kaelae nikatt j baer ||
    3 Salok Saint Kabir

    auh JUlY auh cIrIAY swkq sMgu n hyir ]88]
    The thorn bush waves in the wind, and pierces the banana plant; see this, and do not associate with the faithless cynics. ||88||
    ouh jhoolai ouh cheereeai saakath sang n haer ||88||
    3 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr Bwr prweI isir crY cilE cwhY bwt ]
    Kabeer, the mortal wants to walk on the path, carrying the load of others' sins on his head.
    kabeer bhaar paraaee sir charai chaliou chaahai baatt ||
    4 Salok Saint Kabir

    Apny Bwrih nw frY AwgY AauGt Gwt ]89]
    He is not afraid of his own load of sins; the road ahead shall be difficult and treacherous. ||89||
    apanae bhaarehi naa ddarai aagai aoughatt ghaatt ||89||
    4 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr bn kI dwDI lwkrI TwFI krY pukwr ]
    Kabeer, the forest is burning; the tree standing in it is crying out,
    kabeer ban kee dhaadhhee laakaree thaadtee karai pukaar ||
    5 Salok Saint Kabir

    miq bis prau luhwr ky jwrY dUjI bwr ]90]
    "Do not let me fall into the hands of the blacksmith, who would burn me a second time."||90||
    math bas paro luhaar kae jaarai dhoojee baar ||90||
    5 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr eyk mrMqy duie mUey doie mrMqh cwir ]
    Kabeer, when one died, two were dead. When two died, four were dead.
    kabeer eaek maranthae dhue mooeae dhoe marantheh chaar ||
    6 Salok Saint Kabir

    cwir mrMqh Ch mUey cwir purK duie nwir ]91]
    When four died, six were dead, four males and two females. ||91||
    chaar marantheh shheh mooeae chaar purakh dhue naar ||91||
    6 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr dyiK dyiK jgu FUMiFAw khUM n pwieAw Tauru ]
    Kabeer, I have seen and observed, and searched all over the world, but I have found no place of rest anywhere.
    kabeer dhaekh dhaekh jag dtoondtiaa kehoon n paaeiaa thour ||
    7 Salok Saint Kabir

    ijin hir kw nwmu n cyiqE khw Bulwny Aaur ]92]
    Those who do not remember the Lord's Name - why do they delude themselves in other pursuits? ||92||
    jin har kaa naam n chaethiou kehaa bhulaanae aour ||92||
    7 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr sMgiq krIAY swD kI AMiq krY inrbwhu ]
    Kabeer, associate with the Holy people, who will take you to Nirvaanaa in the end.
    kabeer sangath kareeai saadhh kee anth karai nirabaahu ||
    8 Salok Saint Kabir

    swkq sMgu n kIjIAY jw qy hoie ibnwhu ]93]
    Do not associate with the faithless cynics; they would bring you to ruin. ||93||
    saakath sang n keejeeai jaa thae hoe binaahu ||93||
    8 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr jg mih cyiqE jwin kY jg mih rihE smwie ]
    Kabeer, I contemplate the Lord in the world; I know that He is permeating the world.
    kabeer jag mehi chaethiou jaan kai jag mehi rehiou samaae ||
    9 Salok Saint Kabir

    ijn hir kw nwmu n cyiqE bwdih jnmyN Awie ]94]
    Those who do not contemplate the Name of the Lord - their birth into this world is useless. ||94||
    jin har kaa naam n chaethiou baadhehi janamaen aae ||94||
    9 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr Awsw krIAY rwm kI AvrY Aws inrws ]
    Kabeer, place your hopes in the Lord; other hopes lead to despair.
    kabeer aasaa kareeai raam kee avarai aas niraas ||
    10 Salok Saint Kabir

    nrik prih qy mwneI jo hir nwm audws ]95]
    Those who dissociate themselves from the Lord's Name - when they fall into hell, then they will appreciate its value. ||95||
    narak parehi thae maanee jo har naam oudhaas ||95||
    10 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr isK swKw bhuqy kIey kyso kIE n mIqu ]
    Kabeer has made many students and disciples, but he has not made God his friend.
    kabeer sikh saakhaa bahuthae keeeae kaeso keeou n meeth ||
    11 Salok Saint Kabir

    cwly Qy hir imln kau bIcY AtikE cIqu ]96]
    He set out on a journey to meet the Lord, but his consciousness failed him half-way. ||96||
    chaalae thhae har milan ko beechai attakiou cheeth ||96||
    11 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr kwrnu bpurw ikAw krY jau rwmu n krY shwie ]
    Kabeer, what can the poor creature do, if the Lord does not give him assistance?
    kabeer kaaran bapuraa kiaa karai jo raam n karai sehaae ||
    12 Salok Saint Kabir

    ijh ijh fwlI pgu Drau soeI muir muir jwie ]97]
    Whatever branch he steps on breaks and collapses. ||97||
    jih jih ddaalee pag dhharo soee mur mur jaae ||97||
    13 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr Avrh kau aupdysqy muK mY pir hY ryqu ]
    Kabeer, those who only preach to others - sand falls into their mouths.
    kabeer avareh ko oupadhaesathae mukh mai par hai raeth ||
    13 Salok Saint Kabir

    rwis ibrwnI rwKqy KwXw Gr kw Kyqu ]98]
    They keep their eyes on the property of others, while their own farm is being eaten up. ||98||
    raas biraanee raakhathae khaayaa ghar kaa khaeth ||98||
    14 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr swDU kI sMgiq rhau jau kI BUsI Kwau ]
    Kabeer, I will remain in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, even if I have only coarse bread to eat.
    kabeer saadhhoo kee sangath reho jo kee bhoosee khaao ||
    14 Salok Saint Kabir

    honhwru so hoiehY swkq sMig n jwau ]99]
    Whatever will be, will be. I will not associate with the faithless cynics. ||99||
    honehaar so hoeihai saakath sang n jaao ||99||
    15 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr sMgiq swD kI idn idn dUnw hyqu ]
    Kabeer, in the Saadh Sangat, love for the Lord doubles day by day.
    kabeer sangath saadhh kee dhin dhin dhoonaa haeth ||
    15 Salok Saint Kabir

    swkq kwrI kWbrI Doey hoie n syqu ]100]
    The faithless cynic is like a black blanket, which does not become white by being washed. ||100||
    saakath kaaree kaanbaree dhhoeae hoe n saeth ||100||
    15 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr mnu mUMifAw nhI kys muMfwey kWie ]
    Kabeer, you have not shaved your mind, so why do you shave your head?
    kabeer man moonddiaa nehee kaes munddaaeae kaane ||
    16 Salok Saint Kabir

    jo ikCu kIAw so mn kIAw mUMfw mUMfu AjWie ]101]
    Whatever is done, is done by the mind; it is useless to shave your head. ||101||
    jo kishh keeaa so man keeaa moonddaa moondd ajaane ||101||
    16 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr rwmu n CofIAY qnu Dnu jwie q jwau ]
    Kabeer, do not abandon the Lord; your body and wealth shall go, so let them go.
    kabeer raam n shhoddeeai than dhhan jaae th jaao ||
    17 Salok Saint Kabir

    crn kml icqu byiDAw rwmih nwim smwau ]102]
    My consciousness is pierced by the Lord's Lotus Feet; I am absorbed in the Name of the Lord. ||102||
    charan kamal chith baedhhiaa raamehi naam samaao ||102||
    17 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr jo hm jMqu bjwvqy tUit geIN sB qwr ]
    Kabeer, all the strings of the instrument I played are broken.
    kabeer jo ham janth bajaavathae ttoott geen sabh thaar ||
    18 Salok Saint Kabir

    jMqu ibcwrw ikAw krY cly bjwvnhwr ]103]
    What can the poor instrument do, when the player has departed as well. ||103||
    janth bichaaraa kiaa karai chalae bajaavanehaar ||103||
    18 Salok Saint Kabir

    kbIr mwie mUMfau iqh gurU kI jw qy Brmu n jwie ]
    Kabeer, shave the mother of that guru, who does not take away one's doubt.
    kabeer maae moonddo thih guroo kee jaa thae bharam n jaae ||
    19 Salok Saint Kabir
     
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  3. drkhalsa

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    still waiting for answer any body can help plz!!
     
  4. Arvind

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    Khalsa ji,

    After reading the tuks... didnt understand the analogy given in those. when u get the answer, please share with us too.

    Thanks, Arvind.
     
  5. devinesanative

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    In kabeers time or the early days , there was concept of Sati .

    Kabeer might have used words male and female as metaphor something else.

    From the second line He has mentioned four males and two females.

    Out of four two might be husbans of two females and other two might be the guys who fell in love with the two females.

    When the one of the husband would have died , one female got automatically satied ie dead.

    so , one died two were dead .

    similarly , when two husbands died two females were satied , so

    two died and four were dead .

    But when all the four were dead , then the other two guys might have got the wind of their beloved's death , so they also suicided .

    So, Ultimately , when four died six were dead.
     
  6. drkhalsa

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    Dear D S


    EXCELLENT !

    I really appreciate your analytic skills as already mentioned by Vijaydeep

    Yes your explanation really make sense to me but to be honest I stiil think there could be something more about it but then your explanation hold good for me


    Thanks very much for your help



    Jatinder Singh
     
  7. vijaydeep Singh

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    Gurfateh

    Das Salute to Exlleant attemt by DS.

    Then das will put what as per Scholars have understood and what Das has found.


    gurmat is alway anti to ego and onece haumai is gone we are one with Akal.
    One is killed two die,Two are dead then four die and if four are dead then two female gender also dies.


    As per Scholars.

    If we kill ego(one) our love and hatread(two)Die.
    if we kille ego and pride(our mind gets killeed) so by these two we get Ego,mind,love and hatred deing.
    When these four are killed then Thrist(Trishna) and Hope(Asha) also die.

    As per Das it is in that way that just if we killl one two die.by death of two four die and by death of four two female gender also die.
    so one has to be kiled.
    ie

    Ego is killed.Anger also dies with it(making it two) after two dies then other two Attachment(moh) and Greed(note that lust is greed for sexual pleasure) also die(making it four).
    when four are dead then we have two female gender ie Jealousy(Irsha/Hasad) and Hath(illogical stubornes/illogical stuborness/Dheethtta) also deing.Making it total six but just by killing ego.
     
  8. BaljeetSingh

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    Please have a look at the attachment. This is what I found in Mahan Kosh. I hope this explanation is sufficient.

    Regards
    Baljeet
     
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    Satsriakal to all!

    According to the explanations in Mahan Kosh, the number of total deaths, that take place, is thirteen.


    Balbir Singh
     
  10. devinesanative

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    A big clap for you . Wonderfull ! , I knew it . And was waiting for Das ji's reply........
     

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